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Shalia Ripper
The Elevens
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Posted - 2011.10.21 10:11:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:Headerman wrote:
I forgot these series of books, i must get a copy of them.
Another trilogy i forgot was a new Dune series by Brian herbert and Kevin J Anderson. The three books are:
The Butlerand Jihad
The Machine Crusade
The Battle of Corrin.
Basically it deals with humanity has expanded outwards and occupied hundreds of worlds. A small faction and some revered people have worked out how to remove their brains into a type of stasis jar, allowing them to live for thousands of years. The faction group have gone a step further and built massive robots to control directly with their brains. They have gone and invented a very good A. I. Eventually one of the faction gives too much power to it, and it takes control. The faction are now subservient to the AI, while the rest of humanity forces a stale mate with it.
The stories themselves deal with how humanity struggles to overcome the AI with slaves, new ships, and a herb found on only one desert planet... Dune.
It is a very good series
Is it on par with the original Frank Herbert's series? (I know that Brian Herbert is his son) I've always been interested in the early days of the Dune universe, so to speak, but it'd take a really talented writer to fill Frank Herbert's shoes.
In a word, no. Kevin J Anderson is a hack. And Brian Herbert just has daddies notes. he should have them published as is and lets the fans sort it out.
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Dray
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.10.21 10:14:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:Headerman wrote:
I forgot these series of books, i must get a copy of them.
Another trilogy i forgot was a new Dune series by Brian herbert and Kevin J Anderson. The three books are:
The Butlerand Jihad
The Machine Crusade
The Battle of Corrin.
Basically it deals with humanity has expanded outwards and occupied hundreds of worlds. A small faction and some revered people have worked out how to remove their brains into a type of stasis jar, allowing them to live for thousands of years. The faction group have gone a step further and built massive robots to control directly with their brains. They have gone and invented a very good A. I. Eventually one of the faction gives too much power to it, and it takes control. The faction are now subservient to the AI, while the rest of humanity forces a stale mate with it.
The stories themselves deal with how humanity struggles to overcome the AI with slaves, new ships, and a herb found on only one desert planet... Dune.
It is a very good series
Is it on par with the original Frank Herbert's series? (I know that Brian Herbert is his son) I've always been interested in the early days of the Dune universe, so to speak, but it'd take a really talented writer to fill Frank Herbert's shoes.
Avoid them like the plague, I had to force myself to get through them, the first is bad and they get progressively worse it's unbelievable how **** they really are almost as bad as Battlefield Earth, not quite but up there.
Poor writing, 2 dimensional cardboard cut out characters and massive plot holes, in fact I think Headerman is trolling, I'm struggling to think of one redeeming quality of this series other than finally finishing them and knowing the pain is over, an embarrassing addition to the originals which are a fantastic piece of sci-fi literature. |
Oblo Vissisuan
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.21 13:55:00 -
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My favorites that fall into the same genre as the game are both series by Elizabeth Moon.
Frankly, I prefer the Graphic Audio versions over the books as they did an extremely good job with them and I was driving eighteen wheelers over the road when I picked them up. Sometimes I like to listen to them while I am playing eve (don't drive anymore).
Vatta's War Series- Graphic Audio Sample
Serrano Legacy Series - Graphic Audio Sample
Edit: FYI all main characters in both series are female. |
Reiisha
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:03:00 -
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It suddenly dawned on me that Ring (by Stephen Baxter) might actually have some relation to EVE.
I had to think of the ending of the book and the beginning of the game, and it suddenly 'clicked'. |
Greygal
Sephray Industries
Serenitas Solutus
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Posted - 2011.10.22 08:03:00 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  Too funny!
Malcanis wrote:**** you guys I just spend -ú200 on amazon
lol I only spent $9 on amazon... got Kindle version of two of the books listed here I hadn't read yet. Unfortunately, thanks to those recommendations, I haven't logged into Eve in more than 40 hours, skill ques are empty, PI extractors unset, evemail unread... and I've not been to sleep yet!
Just one more chapter... just one more chapter...
Sigh...
Another recommendation: The Unincorporated Man by Dani Kollin & Eytan Kollin - first book in what is now a 4 book series (4th book to come sometime next year. First book was a real page turner, kept me up all night. Second book, The Unincorporated War, I was able to put down to go to sleep but enjoyed. Third book, The Unincorporated Woman, took *forever* to get going (and when it did, it didn't go very far), was disjointed and just poorly organized ... took me about 5 days to actually finish reading. Despite that, I'll get book four, The Unincorporated Future, when it comes out.
What you do for yourself dies with you, what you do for others is immortal. |
Froz3nEcho Sarain
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.22 13:33:00 -
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Tschai from Jack Vance is the book you are looking for. A scout strands on a distant planet after an attack on his mothership and finds himself in a mysterious world occupied by 4 different alien races at war and all sides seem to have human slaves captured when the earth was still young.
The best Sci-fi adventure I have ever read.
~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~
-á-á~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~ |
Nak hak
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Posted - 2011.10.22 17:51:00 -
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Dray wrote:Always loved Niven as I popped my Sci-fi cherry with Ringworld.....
First Sci-Fi novel and first novel I read for entertainment was Rendezvous with Rama, by Arthur C. Clarke. That book still has a place for me, because it turn me on to novels, and love of reading them.
"Wow... subscription based + micro transactions.. talk about greed."-á LOL!
Best Regards,
Nak hak |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.22 18:14:00 -
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Nak hak wrote:Dray wrote:Always loved Niven as I popped my Sci-fi cherry with Ringworld..... First Sci-Fi novel and first novel I read for entertainment was Rendezvous with Rama, by Arthur C. Clarke. That book still has a place for me, because it turn me on to novels, and love of reading them.
For some reason a lot of people hate the ending in that novel. I think that it's perfect. |
Shalia Ripper
The Elevens
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Posted - 2011.10.23 07:16:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:Nak hak wrote:Dray wrote:Always loved Niven as I popped my Sci-fi cherry with Ringworld..... First Sci-Fi novel and first novel I read for entertainment was Rendezvous with Rama, by Arthur C. Clarke. That book still has a place for me, because it turn me on to novels, and love of reading them. For some reason a lot of people hate the ending in that novel. I think that it's perfect.
Rendezvous with Rama is great. After that ACC included Gentry Lee in the writing and the quality suffered.
Of course, if you are going to mention Clarke, one of my favorite boosk by him is Childhood's End. Or as I like to call it, the plot "V" stole. Not V for Vendetta, the TV miniseries/series "V".
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.23 14:54:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:Nak hak wrote:Dray wrote:Always loved Niven as I popped my Sci-fi cherry with Ringworld..... First Sci-Fi novel and first novel I read for entertainment was Rendezvous with Rama, by Arthur C. Clarke. That book still has a place for me, because it turn me on to novels, and love of reading them. For some reason a lot of people hate the ending in that novel. I think that it's perfect. Rendezvous with Rama is great. After that ACC included Gentry Lee in the writing and the quality suffered. Of course, if you are going to mention Clarke, one of my favorite boosk by him is Childhood's End. Or as I like to call it, the plot "V" stole. Not V for Vendetta, the TV miniseries/series "V".
I have no idea why Rendezvous With Rama continued after the first book as the story had finished.
I don't think that I disliked any of his stuff at all which wasn't a tacky add-on in order to make a series. |
Jiska Ensa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.23 15:16:00 -
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Most of the books I would recommend were listed already :) So I'll just throw my support behind:
Pretty much the entire extended Dune series...in some ways, Herbert's son is a better writer than he was (which is saying a lot!)
Anything by Peter F. Hamilton (Night's Dawn trilogy, the Void trilogy (and the 2 or 3 books set before it), even that Fallen Dragon book was a decent read.
Iain M. Banks' Culture books,
Clarke, Asimov, Niven, John Scalzi...
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Frank Millar
The Corporation Incorporated
The Revolution.
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Posted - 2011.10.23 20:44:00 -
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Quote:Most of the books I would recommend were listed already.
This.
For me, it started with Jack Vance's The Devil's Princes. Later, A.E. van Vogt's Null-A. Isaac Asimov's Foundation.
Nowadays, Simmons, Niven/Pournelle/Barnes/Lerner, Reynolds, Hamilton, Cobley, Stross, Banks, Weber, Morgan.
I am not too keen on that Red Mars trilogy, nor do I care much about Dune and even less so about what came after it. |
Shalia Ripper
The Elevens
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Posted - 2011.10.24 09:54:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
I have no idea why Rendezvous With Rama continued after the first book as the story had finished.
I don't think that I disliked any of his stuff at all which wasn't a tacky add-on in order to make a series.
Why was there a sequel? ACC set it up that way. it has been years since i read it, but IIRC, right at the end of Rendezvous with Rama, they mention the Rama creators having a penchant for things in threes.
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.24 10:07:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
I have no idea why Rendezvous With Rama continued after the first book as the story had finished.
I don't think that I disliked any of his stuff at all which wasn't a tacky add-on in order to make a series.
Why was there a sequel? ACC set it up that way. it has been years since i read it, but IIRC, right at the end of Rendezvous with Rama, they mention the Rama creators having a penchant for things in threes.
Indeed, the three doorways, the three massive staircases and so on. But that doesn't necessarily mean that ACC was Raman and needed to write three books.
The Great Snub should have been the end to it rather than to write a religious novel for the next. There was no need for further books in that series just as there wasn't a need for further books after 2010. These extra books didn't add anything to the original book and sometimes people should just leave things alone.
The same thing happened with the excellent Foundation series. Did we need a prequel, $deity knows how many sequels and then, for Jovian's sake, a link to the Caves of Steel series? I am just pleased that Asimov didn't decide to make a connection to Enid Blyton's Famous Five (though I could imagine Heinlein doing just that and having the characters bonk each other incessently). |
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