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Tronnic Rhodan
New Eden Union
9
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Posted - 2013.05.01 08:41:00 -
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Hello, it would be nice if someone can tell me if this fitting will work for C2/C3 Wormholes. I really like Dronens. The reason why I want this for my Legion is, because I like to have an all-in-one ship that can scan, clear sites, loot sites and salvage sites (with drones). I am not sure if I will have enough DPS, but tank should be fine.
Im looking for some tips, how this fit will work etc. Would be very nice :)
Now some ship stats: (With all skills V)
Weapon DPS: 157 (with Imperial Navy Multifrequency) Drone DPS: 237 (with Valkyrie II) Overall DPS: 395 Range: 8+5km Drone Range: 84km Cap Stable @ 55% (without Warp Disruptor & Tractor Beam) Resistance EM/Therm/Kin/Exp: 83/78/82/86 Tank vs. Sleepers: 616HP/s Speed: 690m/s with AB (214m/s without) Cargo: 300m-¦ (enough for all loot?)
Drones: 9x Warrior II 8x Valkyrie II 5x Salvage Drone I 5x Vespa EC-600
Fitting needs atleast 1 Implant for 1% more CPU (.1 CPU Missing without Imp) The reason why no T2 Lasers: Not enough skills yet, working on it :)
Thanks for any suggestions.
Loadout:
Quote:[Legion, Legion WH fit (Drones)]
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Centum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane Centum A-Type Energized EM Membrane Drone Damage Amplifier II
Dark Blood Warp Disruptor Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Large Capacitor Battery II
Dark Blood Heavy Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Dark Blood Heavy Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Dark Blood Heavy Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Dark Blood Heavy Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Drone Link Augmentor II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe Small Tractor Beam II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump II
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Warrior II x5 Warrior II x4 Salvage Drone I x5 Valkyrie II x3 Valkyrie II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5
Costs about 1,7B
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Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
738
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Posted - 2013.05.01 08:54:00 -
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You should name it 'Frankenstein's Monster'. Oh god. |

Tronnic Rhodan
New Eden Union
9
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Posted - 2013.05.01 09:06:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:You should name it 'Frankenstein's Monster'.
Why? :D |

Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
739
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Posted - 2013.05.01 09:16:00 -
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It does not belong in this world. Oh god. |

Fassin-Taak
Boris Johnson's Love Children
0
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Posted - 2013.05.01 09:25:00 -
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this legion fit makes me sad panda :( also Salvage drones don't work on sleeper battleships. |

crazy0146
Boris Johnson's Love Children
5
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Posted - 2013.05.01 09:59:00 -
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Wheres the salvager?
Why do you have a warp disruptor on it?
Faction pulse lasers? |

Lucius Arcturus
Peoples Capitalist Liberation Front Virtue of Selfishness
206
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Posted - 2013.05.01 10:21:00 -
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Too expensive. Also, not enough dps for C3s. Taggart Website Taggart Blog Taggart WH Sales |

Eyana Starstruck
Samostalna Zanatska Radnja Devil Divided By Zero
14
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Posted - 2013.05.01 10:23:00 -
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The 2 above crazy0146 should try to give suggestion and explain their answers instead of just dissing all over his question.... I just hope you get more help when you ask your own questions cause if not its a sad world you live in... |

Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
740
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Posted - 2013.05.01 10:33:00 -
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You're absolutely right, Eyana Starstruck. I'd be happy to give a suggestion for a very reasonable fee of just 20m isk. Oh god. |

Eyana Starstruck
Samostalna Zanatska Radnja Devil Divided By Zero
14
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Posted - 2013.05.01 10:57:00 -
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Sad life you must live in... |
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Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
741
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Posted - 2013.05.01 11:08:00 -
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Be nice, Eyana Starstruck. Oh god. |

Lloyd Roses
Risk-Averse PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
59
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Posted - 2013.05.01 11:15:00 -
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Sleepers will love to shoot your dps :>
Honestly, dump the legion, get a prophecy. More damage, still sufficient tank. You got to have some target painting or webbing running to keep sleepers from aggressing your drones. |

Flandre Scarlette
Hunter Heavy Industries
4
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Posted - 2013.05.01 13:02:00 -
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Tronnic Rhodan wrote:Hello, it would be nice if someone can tell me if this fitting will work for C2/C3 Wormholes. I really like Dronens. The reason why I want this for my Legion is, because I like to have an all-in-one ship that can scan, clear sites, loot sites and salvage sites (with drones). I am not sure if I will have enough DPS, but tank should be fine. Im looking for some tips, how this fit will work etc. Would be very nice :) Now some ship stats: (With all skills V) Weapon DPS: 157 (with Imperial Navy Multifrequency) Drone DPS: 237 (with Valkyrie II) Overall DPS: 395 Range: 8+5km Drone Range: 84km Cap Stable @ 55% (without Warp Disruptor & Tractor Beam) Resistance EM/Therm/Kin/Exp: 83/78/82/86 Tank vs. Sleepers: 616HP/s Speed: 690m/s with AB (214m/s without) Cargo: 300m-¦ (enough for all loot?) Drones: 9x Warrior II 8x Valkyrie II 5x Salvage Drone I 5x Vespa EC-600 Fitting needs atleast 1 Implant for 1% more CPU (.1 CPU Missing without Imp) The reason why no T2 Lasers: Not enough skills yet, working on it :) Thanks for any suggestions. Loadout: Quote:[Legion, Legion WH fit (Drones)]
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Centum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane Centum A-Type Energized EM Membrane Drone Damage Amplifier II
Dark Blood Warp Disruptor Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Large Capacitor Battery II
Dark Blood Heavy Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Dark Blood Heavy Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Dark Blood Heavy Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Dark Blood Heavy Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Drone Link Augmentor II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe Small Tractor Beam II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump II
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Warrior II x5 Warrior II x4 Salvage Drone I x5 Valkyrie II x3 Valkyrie II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Costs about 1,7B
If you love drones, train Gallente. ;~;
As is, sleepers absolutely love to chew delicious drones. Also, i find that even small drones have issues on some of the smaller frigs, so maybe take off the web and point and put omni's.
..or you can, you know, just not massacre the legion as a drone boat. a Pulse legion with scorch and some slight pimping can smash c2's and clear c3's with a bit of practice. IIRC a friend had a ~1b legion that could solo anything up to c3 radars.
If you insist on the drone path for amarr, the proph is a nice drone boat now, and if you insist on not training amarr's primary weapon system a sacrilege can do OK, but has some issues with range. |

Baggo Hammers
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.05.01 15:41:00 -
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395 applied DPS is barely enough for level 3 missions, sorry. |

Pseudonymphette
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:14:00 -
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crazy0146 wrote:Wheres the salvager?
Salvage drones sound good and all but your better off with a salvage module, especially with a drone legion as you will lose you main dps with your salvage drones out. Salvaging after you have finished the site is a bad idea with that fit as you spend a longer time at risk of being found. Also as mentioned salvage drones have problems with Sleeper battleships.
It is better to have a dedicated salvage ship, for example a salvage destroyer works well and is cheap to replace for when you eventually lose it.
Why do you have a warp disruptor on it?
You don't want to be in the situation where you will need the disruptor as 9 times out of 10 you will lose your ship. So replace it with something that will help you complete sites faster, ie. a stasis web, tracking computer or target painter.
Faction pulse lasers?
Faction lasers are just added isk and as you will eventually lose your ship it comes down to are you prepared pay the extra isk for them. If you are using faction pulse lasers because you cant use T2 pulse lasers yet then use the meta 4 lasers instead. If you can use T2 lasers then use them because of scorch.
Tank and Dps
For C2 sites your fit is way overtanked, you need about 200dps omnitank for c2 sites.
For C3 sites your tank seems ok but you dps is way too low.
Drones for Pve
They are only really useful when used with 2+ other pilots as the drones won't be shot as often. otherwise its just not worth it as you will either lose them or have to recall them so often that your effective dps is non existent.
Edit: Expanded answer
ps: if you plan to use this fit please let me know the J-number of the WH you will be in and the time you plan to run these sites as my pilgrim would like to say hi.
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Tronnic Rhodan
New Eden Union
9
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Posted - 2013.05.01 16:17:00 -
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okay, thanks for all the awnsers I got here. I thought it might be enough DPS, but since you guys say that salvage drones dront work on Sleeper BS, I can throw the idea away. 
Im really new to all the wormhole things, the only thing I did was flying with friends into C2 WH's (with an Faction Cruiser).
I guess I will just wait till I can fit all T2 (30 more days to go ) and then clearing the WH with my Legion and salvage with another ship.
Thanks to everyone. |

Maxxor Brutor
Shiva Furnace
0
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:32:00 -
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Salvage drones do work on sleepers, but especially on the large wrecks they're really really (really) slow.
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Oska Rus
Solar Storm Insidious Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:13:00 -
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395 is riculously low dps for the price tag. Not sure if trolling. :D Sell this fit and plex another account to domi for it for much better results. ;-) |

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
1196
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:25:00 -
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Maxxor Brutor wrote:Salvage drones do work on sleepers, but especially on the large wrecks they're really really (really) slow.
Eh. Not all of them. Max skilled salvage drones have an access chance modifier of +13%. A Large Advanced Wreck has an access chance modifier of -20%. So with your chances of access sitting at -7% per cycle -- it never, ever happens. |

Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
116
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Posted - 2013.05.02 00:12:00 -
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sacrilege would do this better wouldn't it? Same ship skills just need to train hams |
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Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
887
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Posted - 2013.05.02 07:46:00 -
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OP, don't do the faction fetish thing, it's not needed, it's hilariously overpriced and it's actually not useful in many cases. Some faction/dead space stuff makes sense, but using everything faction reeks of noobieness and loot pinata. If someone else gave you that fit, helped you make it this way or said it was fine stop listening to him and ignore him for the rest of time because he is not helping you at all.
Also; with lasers, specifically pulse lasers, you want T2 because you need that Scorch. If you can't use scorch then don't bother fitting cool ships with amazing mods. Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |

Karig'Ano Keikira
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:46:00 -
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well, I guess if you are adamant on making Legion work for solo whs, it might work, but... - you will need salvager, drones won't fit it - it will take forever and you won't be able to salvage battleships - neutering sleepers might make your life a misery - considering large battery and stuff, it will likely work, but... it is really expensive ship for '**** happens' - your combat range is problematic - I guess idea is to clear frigs with lasers on short range and slowly grind battleships with drones - drop pvp stuff, in my experience, pvp stuff on pve ship will only increase change that you can actually enter pvp (something in subconsciousness I guess :) ), therefore increasing risk of losing ship :), just run like mad if something starts being fishy - drop faction guns unless they are really essential for fitting
on positive side: - it might actually work, keep in mind it will take forever to grind down those sleeper battleships (making your effective income ) - don't believe all what people say about sleepers and drones - run sleeper sites up to c4 with drone ships and with people with drone ships and we had virtually 0 problems with sleepers killing drones - just keep eyes open for them turning on drones and you will be fine
verdict: - if you are adamant on running solo whs with legion and primary plan this as proof of intention, fun activity or just enjoy being in wh solo with your legion, enjoy yourself - bonus part is annoying those people who claim legion cannot solo wh  - however, if you are planning to profit from runnings whs with it, just forget it - you will earn far more by soloing l4s with dps fit legion, or by solo exploring in high sec (or low sec (if you don't die horribly)) with legion, you will earn more by well... mining :) unfortunately c1 - c4 whs are not as profitable as it might sound (my theory is that evul evul bstards in dreads farming c6 ones are driving down the prices) |
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