I believe they call it "The lulz". More paranoid minds will say they have some master plan to rule the ice product market blah blah.
I think... well I think some men just like to watch the world burn.

Or it could be to make money. If you happen to know what type of ice will be hit next (like some goons do) you could buy it up before the price spike, then sell for 2-3x as much. Lets say you started with 10b, and reinvest all you money for each ice type.

10b x 3 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 240b

Not a bad chuck of change. Wish I was on the inside.

Get back at them by forming a cartel of hisec ice miners and severely undercutting the market by selling at insanely low prices. You won't make as much isk, but satisfaction is worth having.

whatever could we do to a cartel of highsec ice miners

also what's this stack of smartbombs, battleships, artillery, blasters, and brutixes doing in my highsec freighter

The Goons are apparently doing a little house cleaning of the botting pieces of **** that seem to over populate high sec ice fields. That, and making a crap ton of ISK in the process. If you're going to mine out there then be ready and accept the chance you're going to get nailed. It should be like this anyway instead of letting botters control the market. In the end we'll thank the goons for stirring the pot.

I believe they call it "The lulz".

anyone know the main reason of goons stopping high sec miners from mining? i know they are trying to slow down supercapital and capital fleets from moving with the oxygen isotope prices. but why gank miners who arent apart of it all?
caldari space and gallenete space is effected will the amarr space be next?

Whilst the ice interdiction worked for oxytopes to some extent, caldari space is largely unaffected and the whole 'widening it out to Caldari space' looks like a hoax thus far.

There was a short spike in white glace based on speculations, but looking at kills in caldari ice-mining systems in dotlan, noone gets killed and mackinaws are still mining by the thousands, just as prices are quickly dropping back to normal levels...

are you really asking why people shoot miners

really

I am though, why kill a miner?

Or it could be to make money. If you happen to know what type of ice will be hit next (like some goons do) you could buy it up before the price spike, then sell for 2-3x as much. Lets say you started with 10b, and reinvest all you money for each ice type.

10b x 3 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 240b

Not a bad chuck of change. Wish I was on the inside.

I am though, why kill a miner?

Oh, please.

The Goons aren't intelligent enough to make enough ISK themselves so they are resorting to extortion, it's no more complicated than that.

The Goons are apparently doing a little house cleaning of the botting pieces of **** that seem to over populate high sec ice fields.

ha, better have another look. Goons don't give a flying crap whether the miner is a bot or not... and honestly there are fewer bots in high sec belts than people exaggeratedly state.

ha, better have another look. Goons don't give a flying crap whether the miner is a bot or not... and honestly there are fewer bots in high sec belts than people exaggeratedly state.

To protect the asteroids.

Oh, please.

The Goons aren't intelligent enough to make enough ISK themselves so they are resorting to extortion, it's no more complicated than that.

Goonswarm, 'roid defenders. Doing what's right. They are an inspiration to all Mujahideen who fight the good fight against the villainous miner in the name of Allah!

...They are an inspiration to all Mujahideen who fight the good fight against the villainous miner in the name of Allah!

Oh, please.

The Goons aren't intelligent enough to make enough ISK themselves so they are resorting to extortion, it's no more complicated than that.

why gank miners who arent apart of it all?

You know, it really shouldn't be all that hard to avoid getting suicide ganked. If you really wanted to mine ice under the interdiction, forget having a few guys sit around you remote repping... instead, have a couple guys make trial accounts, and continually come after YOU in their rookie ships shooting you for next-to-no damage... and not incidentally, bringing Concord in to guard you. If the goons want to go after you, they need to shoot something else in system... and if you've got Concord on overview like they do, that's your cue to have your other buddy shoot you, and being them back. Repeat until Goons get bored, dispose of trial account once sec status hits -5, profit off inflated oxytopes.

By the way, does anyone know exactly where they are butchering miners? What regions? And does anybody know how long they are planning on killing miners for no proper reason at all? (Killing miners because it cuts off the enemy's primary source of materials is not a good enough reason to justify killing innocent miners who haven't done anything against Goonswarm)

Except Goonswarm would be able to one-shot a fleet of mining ships in no time anyway, because CONCORD doesn't attack the Goons until they attack you. And the whole point in suicide-ganking is to kill as much as possible before CONCORD destroys their ship.

By the way, does anyone know exactly where they are butchering miners? What regions? And does anybody know how long they are planning on killing miners for no proper reason at all? (Killing miners because it cuts off the enemy's primary source of materials is not a good enough reason to justify killing innocent miners who haven't done anything against Goonswarm)

I bet all of the families of the asteroids you ruthlessly lasered out of existence don't think you're innocent.

I already said that I don't mine myself. I have people to do that.

because there's definitely a way you can be sure of this

Go ahead, keep believing that. Goons are actually filling an essential role of removing/preventing bot/macro use as much as possible, since nobody else is doing it.

anyone know the main reason of goons stopping high sec miners from mining? i know they are trying to slow down supercapital and capital fleets from moving with the oxygen isotope prices.

To protect the asteroids.

To protect the asteroids.

Go ahead, keep believing that. Goons are actually filling an essential role of removing/preventing bot/macro use as much as possible, since nobody else is doing it. Investing in topes before they begin war on bot/macro miners is not bad, it makes good business sense.

Something something, bots, something something market price, and something supply and demand. Pure economics and a little fun mixed in. You can fill in the rest of the blanks.

You know, it really shouldn't be all that hard to avoid getting suicide ganked. If you really wanted to mine ice under the interdiction, forget having a few guys sit around you remote repping... instead, have a couple guys make trial accounts, and continually come after YOU in their rookie ships shooting you for next-to-no damage... and not incidentally, bringing Concord in to guard you. If the goons want to go after you, they need to shoot something else in system... and if you've got Concord on overview like they do, that's your cue to have your other buddy shoot you, and being them back. Repeat until Goons get bored, dispose of trial account once sec status hits -5, profit off inflated oxytopes.

I got excited thinking we could get to the 20th post before the goonies stunk it up. LOL. They certainly have a good forum troll system set up.

To protect the asteroids.

Affect vs effect. I apologize in advance for correcting your grammar.

The topic title should read "Goonswarm affecting all high sec miners?" since effect is a noun. Affect is a verb and applies in this situation.

where did you go to school exactly? first of all the rule you set down here is not always true. though most time "when you affect a situation, you have an effect on it" is correct sometime "I try to effect a change in the way we purchase minerals" is also correct.

but nice attempt to derail the thread.. thanks,

where did you go to school exactly? first of all the rule you set down here is not always true. though most time "when you affect a situation, you have an effect on it" is correct sometime "I try to effect a change in the way we purchase minerals" is also correct.

but nice attempt to derail the thread.. thanks,

See Usage Discussion of EFFECT. Also copied below for your reference. The bolded sentences below may spell it out for you...

1. Effect and affect are often confused because of their similar spelling and pronunciation.
2. The (verb 2) affect usually has to do with pretense "she affected a cheery disposition despite feeling down".
3. The more common (verb 3) affect denotes having an effect or influence "the weather affected everyone's mood".
4. The verb effect goes beyond mere influence; it refers to actual achievement of a final result "the new administration hopes to effect a peace settlement".
5. The uncommon noun affect, which has a meaning relating to psychology, is also sometimes mistakenly used for the very common effect.
6. In ordinary use, the noun you will want is effect "waiting for the new law to take effect" "the weather had an effect on everyone's mood".

After the fact, Goonswarm's effect on high sec miners will be what you are speaking of now. Right now, miners are affected by Goons' actions. Since this remains an ACTIVE campaign, the final effect has not been completely affected.

One could also state the topic thus: "Goonswarm hopes to effect all high sec miners" or "How are high sec miners affected by Goonswarm?"

The amount of unnecessary words and grammatical informality in this post makes it amusing to see you attempt to disprove the previous poster's correction. It is clear you know little of the rules of grammar and attempt to mimic the way you talk through typing. Formal and perfect grammar is not necessary on forums, however, if someone gives you a correction the way he did you should just say thank you and fix it. He didn't call you stupid, he just pointed out a grammatical error in your title where everyone can see it. Many understand the difference between them, judging you as incompetent due to your failure to use the correct word even before they read your post.

Ingrate.

he didn't correct me because I was not wrong...nor was I was original poster. you are out of line.

When English lazy peeps need lessons of English, I feel better for my low English level not being English at all.

Some cheese?

The Goons are apparently doing a little house cleaning of the botting pieces of **** that seem to over populate high sec ice fields. That, and making a crap ton of ISK in the process. If you're going to mine out there then be ready and accept the chance you're going to get nailed. It should be like this anyway instead of letting botters control the market. In the end we'll thank the goons for stirring the pot.

If I was an Ice miner.. i'd move to other ice fields............... Minmatar space for example have not been affected, and there are plenty of Ice miners here that are contentedly mining away.

Pandemic Legion are in the area terrorising Amamake... that's the closest we've got to one of the big Alliances stirring up trouble.

Or.. mine here and sell in Gallente space for higher cash.... who knows? a trader can even profit!