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Baneful	Posted - 2005.10.01 18:41:00 - [1] Hey, Can i have peoples opinions on whats the best frig for frig tournements. Im already good at small hybrids, but ill train for the best frig for killing frigs. Thnx for the help --------------------------
Kleric	Posted - 2005.10.01 19:07:00 - [2] Kestrel Punisher or a Rifter in my expirience. 99% of what i post is bull**** and in now way represent my corp or alliance
Baneful	Posted - 2005.10.01 19:10:00 - [3] thnx, anyother opinions --------------------------
Baneful	Posted - 2005.10.01 19:25:00 - [4] in the kessie do i want rockets or missles? --------------------------
Stribog	Posted - 2005.10.01 19:33:00 - [5] Don't rule out the merlin and tristan. Can be effective when setup right.
Baneful	Posted - 2005.10.01 19:46:00 - [6] What about an Incursus, are they any good against other frigs? --------------------------
Har Ganeth	Posted - 2005.10.01 20:00:00 - [7] 1v1, i'd go for the maulus.
Agana	Posted - 2005.10.01 20:08:00 - [8] Originally by: Baneful What about an Incursus, are they any good against other frigs? Incursus is in my opinion a second rate fighter frigate. Fine if you don't have the money or the skills but if your Gallente and you want to use your own ships (either from lack of skills at others or just for loyalty factors) then use a Tristan. Tristan is more shield, more armor, more cargo space, more slots (including a missle slot which should not go to waste). The only thing the Incursus does better is speed. But with an Afterburner the differene is not very important. Get a Tristan and get a couple of hobgoblin drones and you will be in pretty good shape against most other frigates.
Raptornas	Posted - 2005.10.01 20:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Agana Edited by: Agana on 01/10/2005 20:10:05 Originally by: Baneful What about an Incursus, are they any good against other frigs? Incursus is in my opinion a second rate fighter frigate. Fine if you don't have the money or the skills but if your Gallente and you want to use your own ships (either from lack of skills at others or just for loyalty factors) then use a Tristan. Tristan is more shield, more armor, more cargo space, more slots (including a missle slot which should not go to waste). The only thing the Incursus does better is speed. But with an Afterburner the differene is not very important. Get a Tristan and get a couple of hobgoblin drones and you will be in pretty good shape against most other frigates. Edit: You should also be using a standard missle launcher (forget rockets) stacked with your choice of missles (bloodclaw seems to be the favorite). How dare you bash my incursus, fit 3 light neutron's, an MWD, web, cap recharger (No need for a scram in a frigtourny, MAPC and 2x cap relay's and You've got yourself a blasteranis imitater. -------------------------------------------
mavskji	Posted - 2005.10.01 21:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Agana Edited by: Agana on 01/10/2005 20:10:05 Originally by: Baneful What about an Incursus, are they any good against other frigs? Incursus is in my opinion a second rate fighter frigate. Im sorry to butt in without anything constructive to say but... LAWL
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2005.10.01 21:40:00 - [11] definately kestral.
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2005.10.01 21:57:00 - [12] Im new but i fought a kesterl with my incursus with blasters and analiazed him badly it was so lop-sided i did lose have my shield. light missiles suck ass
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.10.01 22:05:00 - [13] fly a kestrel and next time i see a kestrel fitted with light missiles, i'm going to cry ROCKETS FFS -- This Zig. For great justice!
Joshua Keeling	Posted - 2005.10.01 22:12:00 - [14] Originally by: Agana Edited by: Agana on 01/10/2005 20:10:05 Originally by: Baneful What about an Incursus, are they any good against other frigs? Incursus is in my opinion a second rate fighter frigate. Fine if you don't have the money or the skills but if your Gallente and you want to use your own ships (either from lack of skills at others or just for loyalty factors) then use a Tristan. Tristan is more shield, more armor, more cargo space, more slots (including a missle slot which should not go to waste). The only thing the Incursus does better is speed. But with an Afterburner the differene is not very important. Get a Tristan and get a couple of hobgoblin drones and you will be in pretty good shape against most other frigates. Edit: You should also be using a standard missle launcher (forget rockets) stacked with your choice of missles (bloodclaw seems to be the favorite). lol i think you need advice about DPS and turret slot setups.. cause you dont know what you're talking about here ^^
Lanu	Posted - 2005.10.01 22:14:00 - [15] Edited by: Lanu on 01/10/2005 22:14:39 Imicus with 5 t2 light drones and a good tank, or a kestrel ofc.
Altrex Stoppel	Posted - 2005.10.01 22:15:00 - [16] Originally by: Baneful in the kessie do i want rockets or missles? You want neither...for starters you need missile skills After that you can go rockets. I would suggest training all the missile skills you can to lvl 1. This will increase your dmg by quite a bit.
Jatonix	Posted - 2005.10.01 22:41:00 - [17] 1 v 1 frigs tbh, incursu ftw : 3 x 125 protos mwd, web scramble power daig cap relay 2 hornets ____________________________________________ CEO and still kick'in your ass since KIA Like this Sig..? Visit
Agana	Posted - 2005.10.01 22:56:00 - [18] Edited by: Agana on 01/10/2005 22:58:09 Edited by: Agana on 01/10/2005 22:57:43 Heh a lot of people don't seem to like my setup. Under my setup of lightmissles I'm assuming your far away before you need to start shooting. With rockets my understanding is that without skills your shooting at 5km. With light missles I can start shooting reliably at 17km. Which means without skills I can get off two missles of 75hp before the first rocket of 50hp can be fired. This throws off the DPS calculations quite a bit. Edit: especially considering that frigate fights tend to be pretty quick, not allowing for damage to be made up by the faster firing of the rocket launcher. I'm also using blasters so I need to by within 1500m to get the full effect though I can start hitting at 3000m. Still thats a lot of running, even with an AB, and the longer range light missles has proven very effective for me. Combined with a couple of drones and by the time I start firing on them their shields are gone and their armor 1/3 to 1/2 gone. If I were starting the whole fight up close (less then10km) I'd have a different opinion.
ForeverKnight	Posted - 2005.10.01 23:10:00 - [19] succubus: 2 light pulses, 2 rocket launchers AB, Cap recharger, and Webber cap relay, small armor repair, and 2 hardeners of choice Murders every frigate that's stupid enough to get withn 10 km =)
RedWyvern	Posted - 2005.10.01 23:47:00 - [20] Originally by: Baneful What about an Incursus, are they any good against other frigs? an MAPC triple neutron incursus will deal more damage than any other frig. But in a 1v1, you'll never get that close, because as soon as the first web hits, it's all over. Might work in a free for all, where it's difficult for everyone to keep an eye on ranges. ^^ You can go long range, yeah, but it's outmatched by the Kestel, Rifter, and Tristan for this purpose. Loyalty, Integrity, Honour.
Dreez	Posted - 2005.10.02 00:01:00 - [21] My bet would be the Kessie with Standard Malkuth/Arbalest launchers loaded with Bloodclaw Light missiles, Dual Webb and 7.5scram. Then Plate and S-Rep, not much can kill it in time.. I might have ATUKO in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
Al Thorr	Posted - 2005.10.02 00:08:00 - [22] Its not the ship but the pilot that makes the ship better . high skills usually always wins over low Regards Al Thorr I Am in shape, ROUND is a shape
Dexter Rast	Posted - 2005.10.02 00:14:00 - [23] can only give you my personal preference, and id go with the rifter everytime, but like has been said a few times, go with whatever you have the best skills for, most frigs can beat each other on loadouts alone, frig tourney`s are great fun and usually the most bizaar setup wins the day ---------------------------------------------
Zayle	Posted - 2005.10.02 02:51:00 - [24] Edited by: Zayle on 02/10/2005 02:51:23 Originally by: HippoKing fly a kestrel and next time i see a kestrel fitted with light missiles, i'm going to cry ROCKETS FFS in my ecperience a missile kessie is alot better than a rocket kessie for frigs... i wtf pwn missile kessies np, they need to be close, i need to be close, my fav frig is a punisher, fitting are 3 small pulse lasers(named are good or t2) and a small named nos, mids an ab(to get close) and a web(to keep THEM close) and 2 t2 small armor reps and 2 cap relays, infinite cap 4tw!
Dorah Hawkwing	Posted - 2005.10.02 02:58:00 - [25] Edited by: Dorah Hawkwing on 02/10/2005 02:59:01 It is very hard to say.. The Solaris VII figate duels have wielded a lot of surprises in who won against whom. Allmost all combat frigates have seen use, and seen surprise results. Setup matters as much as skill... For myself, I'll try an executioner again... if I take a punisher set up along simlar lines, things might get really ugly ;)
FalloutBoy	Posted - 2005.10.02 03:34:00 - [26] my favorite setup for frig tourneys. Punisher with 3x280mm 2xWebs (atleast X5s) 1xsmall armor rep, 1x400mm plate 2xMAPC can run the small armor rep almost solid, and can deal out alot more damage than any other of the tanked frigs you'll go up against. only thing that will give it issues is a fast long range frig (rifter) but I doubt it will be able to out tank your guns even with the tracking issues. that and ew can be a ***** but thats rarely aloud need a sig? Gallery Contact me for more info
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2005.10.02 04:20:00 - [27] Originally by: FalloutBoy my favorite setup for frig tourneys. Punisher with 3x280mm 2xWebs (atleast X5s) 1xsmall armor rep, 1x400mm plate 2xMAPC can run the small armor rep almost solid, and can deal out alot more damage than any other of the tanked frigs you'll go up against. only thing that will give it issues is a fast long range frig (rifter) but I doubt it will be able to out tank your guns even with the tracking issues. that and ew can be a *** but thats rarely aloud Wow. What a terrible setup. Why would you possibly use arties on that? A rocket kessie would absolutely ***you, so would a plated autorifter.
FalloutBoy	Posted - 2005.10.02 05:35:00 - [28] Edited by: FalloutBoy on 02/10/2005 05:35:59 Originally by: DrunkenOne Originally by: FalloutBoy my favorite setup for frig tourneys. Punisher with 3x280mm 2xWebs (atleast X5s) 1xsmall armor rep, 1x400mm plate 2xMAPC can run the small armor rep almost solid, and can deal out alot more damage than any other of the tanked frigs you'll go up against. only thing that will give it issues is a fast long range frig (rifter) but I doubt it will be able to out tank your guns even with the tracking issues. that and ew can be a *** but thats rarely aloud Wow. What a terrible setup. Why would you possibly use arties on that? A rocket kessie would absolutely ***you, so would a plated autorifter. neither would get any closer to me than 9k both of which would be dead since they are outside there attack range (unless i'm wrong it takes pretty uber skills to get a rocket kessie out to 10k now). and the reason for artys is to save cap to tank whatever damage I do take from long range setups need a sig? Gallery Contact me for more info
Talos Darkhart	Posted - 2005.10.02 08:29:00 - [29] Rifter Hi 3x 200mm autocannons 1x Light missle launcher Mid 1x mwd 1x warp scrambler low 1x 400 plate 1x mcap or whatevre it is called works for me
M3ta7h3ad	Posted - 2005.10.02 09:28:00 - [30] Rocket Kessie 4TW. Only trouble I've ever had is speed. Going against an incursus with an MWD. I fitted EW rather than a web, and unlike the punisher previous (which died after about 2 salvos of rockets), it didnt jam on the first attempt and my cap died. :( If flying a rocket kessie, I'd fit 1 Tech 2 small shield booster, a 100mm Crystal Carbonide thingy armour plate, and 4 rocket launchers. Combine either a nano, or an overdrive in the lows as well, and a tech II afterburner as well (dont go mwd as your cap will die in about 4 seconds) oh and the web. Or lose the afterburner and fit dual webs. Rocket kessies are lethal.

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