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infused
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Posted - 2005.10.03 21:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Svett
Originally by: infused
I have two accounts, one is pvp and one is mining/production/hauling.
So I had my alt flying a t1 frig, going through .4 space and I get ganked. I lose around 100m of named mods, this does not bother me much at all, I can get that back in a few days... but...
Holy crap, 100M in mods on a t1 frig? what the heck were you thinking?
Never ever fly with more than you are willing to lose at no moments notice.
I could afford to lose it, that is why I did it.
After losing a bs this week and that 100m of named gear, I think i'm finally over that whole OMG I JUST LOST EVERYTHING >> SUSPEND ACCOUNT :)
It was a run i've done many times with little or no restiance in the systems I pass through, so I took the chance and lost.
I think alot of you missed my 'whine'.
I was complaining that he shot a frig, which now thinking about it I see why he would do such a thing.
Not just that, but the fact that the loot sat there for more than 30 minutes and no one picked it up just proves they were increasing there kill count for the killboards.
This is why I said it was a stupid kill. I've never killed for frags, stupid imo.
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.10.03 21:29:00 -
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..I love these threads. Always someone says, blah blah, use instas, well they don't really work.
My fave target at a gate is a inc ship from other side of gate.... anything bigger than a frig gets scrammed and attacked. When people get caught before warp it's a wtf moment for them and they usually just sit there and die with not even a fight. 
Fast locking BS are they way forward... 
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.10.03 21:34:00 -
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Edited by: Stormfront on 03/10/2005 21:34:27
If you are in a BS and there is a tanking scrambling BS, engage it... If he has sniper buddies, then engage it while warping out (this is ofcourse after he has initiated the aggression). A few stabs helps, but you might just break the tankers tank with your/sentry combined firepower
Ofcourse, lately you don't find solo gatetankers, they generally have 2-4 helping snipers and tankers as well.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.03 22:03:00 -
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dude, YOU ARE IN F-E.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.10.03 23:16:00 -
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Infused, if you are going to steal our old pirate alliance name, then dont whine about people killing you as thats exactly what the old FE did
And another few points here.
If carebears didnt effect my game, I wouldnt be sniping. So if ccp can stop miners and producers griefing me with their overpriced goods, then I wont have to kill them in order to afford them.
Or did carebears think that they could only get the positive things from pvp and leave pirates to take all the negative?
Tbh, I dont see the problem, I give back all the isk to producers anyway
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.03 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tenacha Khan
Infused, if you are going to steal our old pirate alliance name, then dont whine about people killing you as thats exactly what the old FE did
And another few points here.
If carebears didnt effect my game, I wouldnt be sniping. So if ccp can stop miners and producers griefing me with their overpriced goods, then I wont have to kill them in order to afford them.
Or did carebears think that they could only get the positive things from pvp and leave pirates to take all the negative?
Tbh, I dont see the problem, I give back all the isk to producers anyway
Yeah, Forsaken Empire complaing about gate camping is like...
there I loose my words...
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Corvus Anderran
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Posted - 2005.10.04 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: MrMorph
Originally by: Corvus Anderran
To be honest, there isn't much of an excuse for getting ganked at a gate in 0.1-0.4 any more. Most corps of decent age have collections of instas for their areas of operations, and in an alliance you should be able to get hold of instas for pretty much the whole galaxy. And if all that files, buy them on escrow. If you have instas, you aren't going to get ganked by sniper BSes. The only reason people can still snipe at gates is because people are still dumb enough to fly haulers packed full of named expanders and loaded with high value cargo, through 0.1-0.4 space, without instas.
They dont make you instawarp.
I'm referring to people flying frigates like the OP. People in a battleship or indy have even less of an excuse.
Just ask yourself: if there is a gate camp in this 0.4 system I'm passing through, do i stand a chance of getting past it? If the answer is no, why are you flying a BS or cargo loaded indy without an escort?
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infused
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Posted - 2005.10.04 00:35:00 -
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Can someone fill me in on the FE pirate alliance? I'm new to FE.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.10.04 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: infused
Can someone fill me in on the FE pirate alliance? I'm new to FE.
Prime example of a alliance just recruiting corps for numbers. They're not really a pirate alliance that I know of anymore. However, they do gatecamp like crazy and blob it up. Hence the reaction "You're F-E". "Fair Fight" is not a F-E value. = Gank
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.04 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: infused
Can someone fill me in on the FE pirate alliance? I'm new to FE.
Forsaken Empire is the name of the alliance which started gate camping back in 2003.
Then thy formed into one Corp called Forsaken Empire, which created the alliance your in atm .
But I admit, there is barly none of the old guys left in your alliance
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Scoundrelus
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Posted - 2005.10.04 10:29:00 -
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Just going to throw in my two cents here from the view of a pirate. I think gate ganking from long range is the most lamest thing in EVE. Tanking sentries is ok but outranging them? Its just stupid honestly. CCP might as well put a long range sentry and set it to hostile and fire on everyone because thats what gate campers do.
Pretty much impossible to kill a gate camper without equal range and covert ops are difficult because the gankers are paranoid. Why doesnt CCP just increase the range on sentries and solve this problem? Obviously anyone with a setup made for range/damage will have severely gimped tanking ability and thus that solves that. Gate ganking takes no skill and if your not picking up loot then whats the point?
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Druid R
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Posted - 2005.10.04 10:45:00 -
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effective sniping does take skill, i mean it takes ages to train up for 1400mm II.
ccp doesnt want to stop them cause they doing nothing wrong. As has been said here they spend 90% of the isk they make paying producers for mods/ships, so it all comes back to the ppl they kill anyway.
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Scoundrelus
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Posted - 2005.10.04 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Scoundrelus on 04/10/2005 11:00:15
Originally by: Druid R
effective sniping does take skill, i mean it takes ages to train up for 1400mm II.
Selecting a skill and going afk for a month takes no skill whatsoever.
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2005.10.04 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: infused
I use to gank people yes, but if you read my post I said these guys were ganking someone in a t1 frig. 3 BS vs a frig.
I never poped anything other than iteron 5's and BS.
Should we be impressed with your standards? All ships have the chance to drop expensive mods. Pretending to be all high and mighty for not popping frigs just makes you a bad and probably poor pirate.
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
In short:
Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2005.10.04 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Scoundrelus
Just going to throw in my two cents here from the view of a pirate. I think gate ganking from long range is the most lamest thing in EVE. Tanking sentries is ok but outranging them? Its just stupid honestly. CCP might as well put a long range sentry and set it to hostile and fire on everyone because thats what gate campers do.
Pretty much impossible to kill a gate camper without equal range and covert ops are difficult because the gankers are paranoid. Why doesnt CCP just increase the range on sentries and solve this problem? Obviously anyone with a setup made for range/damage will have severely gimped tanking ability and thus that solves that. Gate ganking takes no skill and if your not picking up loot then whats the point?
Buahahaha. That doesnt even make sense! You can overcome sentries one way, but doing it the other way is... wrong? WTF.
It's much easier to kill a camper than you think, apparently. 
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
In short:
Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.10.04 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Scoundrelus
Pretty much impossible to kill a gate camper without equal range and covert ops are difficult because the gankers are paranoid.
Its very easy to kill a sniper.
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CCP might as well put a long range sentry and set it to hostile and fire on everyone because thats what gate campers do.
Thats a good idea, then i can just sit at gate and collect the loot. I would have never have thought of that, you should post that in ideas lab.
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Why doesnt CCP just increase the range on sentries and solve this problem?
If ccp increased the range then pirates couldnt snipe, but if your other idea is implemented i could sit at gate and collect loot and wouldnt have to snipe.
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Gate ganking takes no skill and if your not picking up loot then whats the point?
I dont know anybody that doesnt pick up the loot. The only player skill needed in this game is judgment (when to warp/jump in/out) from reading other parts of your post i see that snipers have that. Orgaisation skills, pirate corps tend to have more of this when compared to any other corp as pirating requires alot of teamplay.
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Xenios Alfar
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Posted - 2005.10.04 19:34:00 -
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Well me being a pirate will be slightly biased and i admit that and yes i do gatecamp and i tend not to fire on newbs but i do occasionally. I mean id be thrilled if i killed a seemingly 'new' character and got 100m loot. Id probably kill newbs more. But then again this is only a game and losses can be gained back! quit the bickering guys! get out there and hunt us back :D itd be fun!
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.10.04 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: infused
What anoys me is that someone would actually gank a t1 frig...
Oh shut the %#@$ up, its pretty obvious in your own post why we would AND I've blown up some rookie ships that have dropped some really nice loot.
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Marit Hullaballoo
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Posted - 2005.10.04 20:40:00 -
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Most ppl think that EVE is reduced to a score on killboards. This is the only thing they have in mind, like in a pinball game, where the target is to get the highest number.
Pods are the pinball extra balls in EVE.
How to convert a really nice universe in just an arcade game that a 6 year old kid can play.
But u are free to do what you want... if game allows it... why not?
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