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Ficti0n
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Posted - 2005.10.03 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Ficti0n on 03/10/2005 18:11:52
Hey guys,
Been playing Eve happily for about 3 months and i finally found my vocation a month ago......pirating and PvPing!
But the thing is my sec has taken a bit of a beating and its no at -0.4!
I can fly minmatar ships upto ruppies....almost a claw :)
So anyway ive been trying to regain my sec by ratting but the sec i get from killing cruisers is tiny and it would take me about 2 months to put it back at 0.0 (assuming the 15 min thing about sec gain is true)!
So is there anyway i can gain sec that is possible for me and my ships apart from ratting cruisers in 0.1/0.2/0.3? Is 0.0 ratting out of the question?
Also is there any signs given from CCP that there goin to review the sec system cause for a biggining pirate like me its almost impossobe to regain sec and ratting is NOT fun!
Thanks,
fic
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alphawolf2929
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Posted - 2005.10.03 18:19:00 -
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ROFL. .4 is TIIIIINNNNYYYYY you could prolly do it in 2 or 3 hours in a .2
im at -2.2 and i thought mine was relatviely low.....dont even worry about it till later. 
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Ficti0n
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Posted - 2005.10.03 18:40:00 -
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But itll take me ages trust me the cruisers i kill give crap sec! And they only give it every 15 mins!
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Ja'kar
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Posted - 2005.10.03 18:43:00 -
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not flaming- but why u worried? u can still get into empire so, best way might be to do some missions or mine- join a pirate corp who can help u in 0.0. but either way -0.4 is not that much of a deal- i think not anyway
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Snaieke
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Posted - 2005.10.03 20:05:00 -
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Check mine and come back when your sec status is that low...
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.10.03 20:41:00 -
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If you say that your vocation is to be a pirate then why do you want to raise your security status?
Pirates have bad security status, if thats a problem then you should not become a pirate.
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Roxanna Kell
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Posted - 2005.10.03 21:19:00 -
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complexes give better standing that belts, even if its the same ship,. ... i did a lvl 8/10 in less than a week my sec went from 0.2 to 4.5
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.10.03 21:25:00 -
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Check out a skill called "Fast Talk". This gives you a 5% bonus to effective security rating increase. This requires "Social IV" but could be worth the bonus to the small rats you're downing.
-1.8 is the breaking point that you should be more worried about. Not really -0.4 heeh.
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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alphawolf2929
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Posted - 2005.10.03 22:13:00 -
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yarrhigh sec is fort carebears eh!
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Unknown Subject
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Posted - 2005.10.04 19:28:00 -
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hey, like most of us once were, he is a nub, lets give him some sound advice instead of taking the **** huh? he had the common sense to come here and ask a good question that could help others too.
m8, rat hunt in a lower sec system and yes the 15 minute thing is true. if you have yourself a battleship, simply go from belt to belt ignoring all rats until you find yourself a nice fat one and take it out, this way every 15 minutes the chances are reasonably good that you have found yourself a good ship to get sec on rather than wasting your time killing everything you see. if after 10 mins you havent found anything good, just kill the cruisers or whatever you find. but dont just kill everything you come across. in 0.2 there are some fairly decent rats but tbh get yourself into a nearby 0.0 system. hunt with a friend if you can because i believe (and someone PLEASE correct me if this is wrong) only bounties are shared, not sec status so you can get some help kicking the butts of bigger ships.
i wish you the best of luck as having a good sec status gives the least impression of you being a pirate and making it easier to do your dirty job YARR!
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Utopiana
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Posted - 2005.10.04 19:44:00 -
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Pirate, thats something you do, or dont do.
Its not a part time proffession like many like to think it should be.
Think real good about it, then if you decide to be a pirate, then know that is most likely a one way path to go.
It's not like the game do not warn about it, unless turned off a warning window pops up every single time, your about to do something that might endanger you status in the game.
Just be sure before you go down that path, thats all.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.10.04 19:51:00 -
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Eveeryone in the gang gets the full sec hit, regardless of whether they shoot or not. I hate this feature, a gang member popped a pirate and screwed up my security status
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.10.04 19:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Utopiana
Pirate, thats something you do, or dont do.
Its not a part time proffession like many like to think it should be.
Think real good about it, then if you decide to be a pirate, then know that is most likely a one way path to go.
It's not like the game do not warn about it, unless turned off a warning window pops up every single time, your about to do something that might endanger you status in the game.
Just be sure before you go down that path, thats all.
It should not be a part time profession, but it should also not be a one way road to being an outcast.
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Unknown Subject
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Posted - 2005.10.04 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tenacha Khan
Eveeryone in the gang gets the full sec hit, regardless of whether they shoot or not. I hate this feature, a gang member popped a pirate and screwed up my security status
im talking about rat hunting and increasing your sec status not lowering it. and i never knew about the gang sec hit, bloody good feature i think. ill bare it in mind ;)
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Utopiana
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Posted - 2005.10.04 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tenacha Khan
Originally by: Utopiana
Pirate, thats something you do, or dont do.
Its not a part time proffession like many like to think it should be.
Think real good about it, then if you decide to be a pirate, then know that is most likely a one way path to go.
It's not like the game do not warn about it, unless turned off a warning window pops up every single time, your about to do something that might endanger you status in the game.
Just be sure before you go down that path, thats all.
It should not be a part time profession, but it should also not be a one way road to being an outcast.
And its not! there are just not a fast way back, even if many would prefer it was.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.10.04 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Unknown Subject
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
Eveeryone in the gang gets the full sec hit, regardless of whether they shoot or not. I hate this feature, a gang member popped a pirate and screwed up my security status
im talking about rat hunting and increasing your sec status not lowering it. and i never knew about the gang sec hit, bloody good feature i think. ill bare it in mind ;)
so was I
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.10.04 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Utopiana
And its not! there are just not a fast way back, even if many would prefer it was.
For an empire pirate playing 3hrs every nite it would take them a yr to get their ss from -10 back down where as it takes them a day to get it to -10 in the first place.
I think it should take a month to do if you dring it and 4months passive.
For people who wanted to test out a part of the game, its very harsh indeed and puts people off ever trying piracey and it the long grind back up puts people off playing.
As far as Im concerned 0.5-1.0 doesnt exist, its just a minor annoyance to insta through in a shuttle every week or so. I also dont see why people would want to stop piracey, but yet again i dont see the enjoyment people get in mining or solo pve. But I respect that they do.
There is really no point in arguing this point, you have your opinion and I have mine and ccp will do whatever they like in the end, usually the thing that makes least sense
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Sweetpain
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Posted - 2005.10.05 11:55:00 -
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A day to get to -10 or as you say it 3 hours a night. so 3 hours to get to -10.
I asume that is without killing a single pod. If you kill pods then you have made an additional choice to become a murderer on top of your pirating activity.
and in the end its your choices that make who you are.
don't tell me an innocent newbie get to -10 in 3 hours in this game, because they wanted to try out piracy.
Kids today growing up get way to many pats on the back, and the frase "oh well better luck next time" instead of have to face up to reality and take responsibility for their actions.
If you do the crime, pay the time. Its as easy as that. If you can't face it, then don't do it.
You know the rules beforehand, there are no excuses, only the reality you have to face for breaking them. There are no one in the back that can pull you out of trouble this time. Its your own action, you pay the price. no one elsedoes it for you.
Welcome to life.
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PsyBoRG
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Posted - 2005.10.05 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: PsyBoRG on 05/10/2005 15:23:29
Originally by: Sweetpain
A day to get to -10 or as you say it 3 hours a night. so 3 hours to get to -10.
I asume that is without killing a single pod. If you kill pods then you have made an additional choice to become a murderer on top of your pirating activity.
and in the end its your choices that make who you are.
don't tell me an innocent newbie get to -10 in 3 hours in this game, because they wanted to try out piracy.
Kids today growing up get way to many pats on the back, and the frase "oh well better luck next time" instead of have to face up to reality and take responsibility for their actions.
If you do the crime, pay the time. Its as easy as that. If you can't face it, then don't do it.
You know the rules beforehand, there are no excuses, only the reality you have to face for breaking them. There are no one in the back that can pull you out of trouble this time. Its your own action, you pay the price. no one elsedoes it for you.
Welcome to life.
pirates are generally murderes and scum but if u ransom who will trust u if u dont deal swift justice vs the ppl that dont pay
not sure he can get to -10.0 in 3 hours not enough targets in low sec to do that even for an old sea dog like me but he can easily get below -5.0 by ransoming pods in a frig
though i do agree a pirate's sec belongs below -5.0 though i still think attacking a -5.0 player should act as an attack on both him and his corp m8's in gang as it can split up fleets but that belongs in another thread
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Ja'kar
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Posted - 2005.10.05 18:24:00 -
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Pirates have bad security status, if thats a problem then you should not become a pirate.
Even though I like being -5 (which am not at present -1.8)- I have to disagree with ur statement-
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