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captain kikaz
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Posted - 2005.10.05 09:27:00 -
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Right then i currently run EVE on a very old computer.
p4 1.2 gig
128mb sd ram
geforce 4 ti (just got given this as i was running a geforce2)
What i need to know is what would be an ideal set up? I have seen a few systems for sale on ebay.
E.G 2.8 p4
512mb ram
My sound card is fine. I think it is the lack of ram that is killing me.I keep getting massive lag hits and can sometimes sit for 5 minutes waiting for the computer to catch up.
I would just update the ram butwhen my mate came round to fit some bits he had lying around we discovered the ram is board specific so wouldn't fit the cards he bought with him 
I've only got about ú250 to spend and i need
a new motherboard
new cpu
possibly new power pack and cooling fan I've been told my power will handle up to 2gig max
and new ram cards Whats the least i should go for to run teamspeak as well cause i've been told it can be a bit ram hungry
I know it's all gonna have to be second hand which i havn't got a problem with it's just i am not the most savvy when it comes to computers.
I've lost no end of ships because of this stupid machine lagging leaving me sitting at gates like the perverbial sitting duck. I don't want a superdooper computer that i can take over the world with just something that is gonna let me enjoy EVE to it's fullest as i am starting to really gat on with it now
Thanks is advance for the replies guys
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captain kikaz
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Posted - 2005.10.06 01:42:00 -
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anyone????
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Ashalin Tora
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Posted - 2005.10.06 15:59:00 -
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CPU should be better.
A better GFX card could be better too.
A new motherboard is required for the CPU, so yes, a new motherbord.
And more RAM is essential. (512 should do the magic, but the more the merrier)
Good luck
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Jack Tau
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Posted - 2005.10.06 16:02:00 -
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Well the ram is a major choke point.. Running in 1280X1024 my client uses up 90 odd MB, so that has to be a priority. If your based in the UK, Scan computers do some cheap mbrd/cpu/ram kits that you build yourself.
I do run eve on my laptop that only has a 1.5ghz processor, and a terrible gfx card but it runs absolutely fine in 1024X768, possibly due to the gig of ram(With the gfx settings turned right down).
Your gfx card is cool, should easily run it in with some of the higher details turned off, but it could be better if you want to run the game in a hi-res..
Dooh, just noticed you put your cash in ú's, so you probably are in the UK, check out deal #5 on this page..
Scan MixIt
That should be ample for your needs, and its right on the money(+ú10 for delivery)
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captain kikaz
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Posted - 2005.10.06 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: captain kikaz on 06/10/2005 17:00:05
cheers for the replies guys I am thinkin of just updating the motherboard and ram now to be honest i don't use my pc for any other games and it seems to run fine with the set up i have just needs more ram. I am not really bothered about running it at hi res it looks just peachy now  turns out money is a bit tighter then i thought, i think i am just gonna have to have a hunt around and see what i can find my prioritys though have to be the board and the ram and i think i will have to make do with the 1.2 cpu for now
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Emmerich Steiner
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Posted - 2005.10.10 08:15:00 -
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My rule of thumb is 512mb of ram per client run. This gives enough for each client (300-400mb) and keeps enough for your system to use as well.
I have a athlon64 3000+ (venice 1.8ghz) overlcocked to 2.7ghz (YES! and it's stable with air cooling :D)
2GB of DDR400 (2-3-3-6)
DFI Lanparty NF4-Ultra
Geforce 7800 GTX (PCI-X)
And I can quad client (4 accounts simultanously logged int and playing) at 45 fps all at a dense POS.
Odd thing is, that eve runs almost the same with a friends system with ym ram and cpu in it. His specs:
athlon64 3000+ (venice 1.8ghz) overlcocked to 2.8ghz (yeah his overclocks better :( )
2GB of DDR400 (2-3-3-6)
DFI Lanparty NF3 Ultra-D
Geforce 6600GT (AGP)
I found this out the be weird, as a 7800GTX is roughly equal to a pair of Geforce 6800GTs SLI'd
So we put my old Geforce 4 TI4600 card in his system.. And oddly enough eve played at a loss of 10 fps at the same POS as the 6600GT card.
Apparently the graphics card is not really that big of a deal to eve..
So if you are building a machine for eve-online.. spend more money on the ram/cpu/mobo than the gfx card.
here is a link to some interesting performance tests:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2451&p=10
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Shirer Aprenon
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Posted - 2005.10.10 09:27:00 -
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The other posters are heading you in the right direction
For ú250 you are quite limited in your choices of upgrade but nevertheless you should aim for something like this
Socket 754 motherboard. You can now get these with PCI-E slots as well as AGP.
Sempron 3100+ Still a fair bit expensive.
1 GB of RAM - if you don't intend to overclock, get the cheapest stuff tou can but buy branded (corsair for example)
Graphics card - If you are strapped for cash after buying that lot, a 5900 series card will run EVE perfectly well. your main area of concern in performance terms for EVE is the CPU, not the Gfx Card.
If you buy an AGP board, your Geforce 4 ti should be just fine. A PCI-E board will push your outlay up by another ú80-100 or so for a 6600 level card.
If you play nothing other than eve, go for the vanilla 6600, not the GT. You could also have a look at the 6200 cards, of which I have no experience at all, not sure if they'll be any better than your ti, nor if they come in PCI-E or AGP flavours.
I have a working FX5900 AGP card gathering dust here that you can have for the cost of the P&P. Contact me in game in public channel **Romarrian** or eve mail me.
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Cow Hauler
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Posted - 2005.10.19 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Cow Hauler on 19/10/2005 18:13:19
This is all you need to run eve with arround 40 fps
your geforce 4600TI (good enough for eve = 0 euro)
A cpu (athlon xp 2800 =80 euro)
A mobo that supports the cpu (the Asus A7V600-X =47 euro)
512mb ram kingston 1x512 PC3200 (400mMhz) =53 euro)
So you're done with only 180 euro if you can use your current powersupply, if not the AOpen H420A only costs 54 euro and has a 300 watt power supply build in.
P.S. Sempron sucks as a gaming cpu, it get's way to hot.
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Shirer Aprenon
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Posted - 2005.10.27 11:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Cow Hauler
Edited by: Cow Hauler on 19/10/2005 18:13:19
P.S. Sempron sucks as a gaming cpu, it get's way to hot.
Disagree
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Tar om
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Posted - 2005.10.28 11:03:00 -
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For EVE your CPU should be a bigger priority than your graphics card, as long as your graphics card is a DX9 compliant part.
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totalE
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Posted - 2005.10.30 10:20:00 -
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well, for single client the 3x machines i use the most often
AMD Atlon XP2000+
1Gb RAM
Geforce FX5500 128Mb
^this machine runs 2x clients no problem as well
AMD Athlon XP2200+
512Mb RAM
Geforce FX5200 128Mb
P4 3.0 HT
1Gb RAM
ATI Radion X300
^This machine runs the game the worst
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totalE
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Posted - 2005.10.30 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Shirer Aprenon
Originally by: Cow Hauler
Edited by: Cow Hauler on 19/10/2005 18:13:19
P.S. Sempron sucks as a gaming cpu, it get's way to hot.
Disagree
semprons are nearly as bad as P4's
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Shirer Aprenon
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Posted - 2005.10.31 08:50:00 -
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ok gentlemen, before spouting off in an uninformed manner, grateful that you familiarise yourself with this:
CPU Thermal Power Ratings
Before engaging in popular myth spreading. Sempron does not run "as hot as a P4"
Furthermore, inadequate cooling will cause any CPU to overheat.
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VaderDSL
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Posted - 2005.11.04 16:25:00 -
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Just get yourself a cheapish Socket 939 board maybe an Nforce 3 Ultra based board with an AGP slot, they grab yourself a ú99 Opteron 144 then a decent cooler like an SI-120 for ú35 and a quiet fan and overclock the processor to 2.8ghz
Tis what I am doing, replacing my A64 CPU with an Opteron 144 (CAB2E 0540FPMW) which is basically a San-Diego core (1mb L2 cache) and FX-57 core :) so its a ú600 processor for ú9 9 :D
easily overclocks to 2.6-3ghz on good aircooling and watercooling. Sorted :)
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Zoea
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Posted - 2005.11.05 03:06:00 -
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Totally agree with Mr Valder, except try for PCI express, even some newb 6200 card will get you by if you have a fast CPU. Then you can replace the graphics card later for an immediate games machine.
You'd want to overclock the opteron - but then you should overclock any cheap new 939 processor...
Enjoy the upgrade.
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Chewan Mesa
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:48:00 -
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Just decided to post my machines setup here...
1.5GB RAM, DDR
2.4 GHZ P4
ATI Radeon 9600Pro, 265MB
Asus P4S8X Mainboard
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