we need rebalance of ships.

and there is no reason in hell why a frig can bump a carrier and not get pulverized when it hits the hull. we need COLLISION DAMAGE.

this!

For a space ships game, we haven't had a new combat ship since the introduction of the T3 ships.
What is going on CCP?
It is time to focus in our real avatars (the ships), who cares about walking in a station when you can be flying?.

Wish list:

we want new T3 frigs
new Tier 3 BC's with new T2 BC's
new Tier 4 BS's with a new T2 Command BS
and dont forget about at least 2 more carriers that can be flown in empire space. Dreads in empire?
and how about adding strip mining turrets to the orca, at least 4. it is an industrial ship after all.

T3 weapons, more T2 drones

we dont need rebalance of ships, what we need is more ships to counter specific kinds of attack.

Bring splash damage back (new T3 weapon?)

and there is no reason in hell why a frig can bump a carrier and not get pulverized when it hits the hull. we need COLLISION DAMAGE.


more to follow...

For a space ships game, we haven't had a new combat ship since the introduction of the T3 ships.
What is going on CCP?
It is time to focus in our real avatars (the ships), who cares about walking in a station when you can be flying?.

Whish list:

we want new T3 frigs
new Tier 3 BC's with new T2 BC's
new Tier 4 BS's with a new T2 Command BS
and dont forget about at least 2 more carriers that can be flown in empire space. Dreads in empire?
and how about adding strip mining turrets to the orca, at least 4. it is an industrial ship after all.

T3 weapons, more T2 drones

we dont need rebalance of ships, what we need is more ships to counter specific kinds of attack.

Bring splash damage back (new T3 weapon?)

and there is no reason in hell why a frig can bump a carrier and not get pulverized when it hits the hull. we need COLLISION DAMAGE.


more to follow...

Like?

Well take the tier 1 and 2 battlecruisers. Except for the Gallente ships, the tier 1s are hardly ever used. Prophecy? Ferox? Cyclone? These ships need some love to make them a viable alternative for their tier 2 counterparts. With ISK so easily available the higher price hardly makes any difference.

Same for cruisers and frigates, which are even cheaper. The lower tiers lack slots, dps and fitting options to make them viable for basically anything. It's been months since I've last seen a Bellicose or Augoror. Ospreys are used for a month by miners before they jump into retrievers. And so on.

Imo balancing the tiers would bring far more options and variety into the game than adding more ships and keeping 50% of the available ships useless.

Because CCP got this uniquely genius... or uniquely stupid idea that all ship must fit into a specific niche before it is allowed to exist. It didn't occur to them that some niche may be bigger than others. 3/4 of the population is Caldari, and everyone and their mother flies the drake. Then there are the electronic attack frigs, whose niche is so unused that no one in their right mind flies them. They already do fine at what they do, it's just no one wants to do it. No amount of balancing will change this. We cannot have more of that's popular, market forces do not apply, because ship lineup has to be tightly controlled by some chump at CCP.

If all the races had a ship that performed as stellar for pve as the drake, then they would be balanced. Currently they are not.

Every race has (depending upon your use and view) one stellar T1 BC and one that is less than stellar. Typically, one is a heavy tank and the other a heavy DPS ship. Each has its use and all are very useful in their existing state.

Top - Harbinger, Drake, Myrmidon, Hurricane
Bottom - Prophecy, Ferox, Brutix, Cyclone

Again, each has its use.

Well hardly. The Ferox doesn't even have a better tank than a Drake.

It's for a reason you hardly see any tier 1 BCs, the better tank (if at all) doesn't make up for the huge decrease in offensive power. Only if I see 50% Cyclones and 50% Hurricanes then yes, they both have their equal uses.

Sorry, in practice, Tier 1 BC's are one of the best ship classes in the game for many reasons.

Inbalance keeps the game interesting, if every race's bc had the exact same stats what fun would the game be? Each race has its own way of fighting. Instead of complaining about stuff being overpowered why don't you find a counter for it? For example the drake is slow and doesn't do as much dps as other races, so you can outrun it. The shield cane is fast but has a weak tank, so you need to web it down, the armor cane is slow so you can kite it and stay out of its gun range. Both ammar and gallente rely on cap, neut them out and their guns are useless. And most of all if you think something is overpowered, why don't you just train for it and us it? Its not like battle cruisers are that skill intensive.

I did not state that it did. I said it typically had one or the other. Drake has super tanke and good DPS, and a Ferox can be fit for some major DPS.



I am not sure where you are flying that you hardly ever see Tier 1 BC's. Surely none of the systems I am in.

As far as "Huge decrease in offensive power" goes, I have not run a L4 yet that I cannot do in my Drake. Yes, it is outpaced by my Tengu, as it should be. Yea, with excellent skills you can byppass a Drake with a BS - as it should be.

If you are anywhere in Eve that you are seeing 50% of any single ship class - I really cant imagine why it would ever be that way - unless it was a mission only area (which dont exist to my knowledge - although many think high sec is supposed to be that way).

Sorry, in practice, Tier 1 BC's are one of the best ship classes in the game for many reasons.

Edit: so I dont have the last word in this thread, I have bolded and underlined the key word for you (in order) in this portion of the post that highlights my point which you clearly dont understand.

Sorry, in practice, Tier 1 BC's are one of the best ship classes in the game for many reasons.