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Celestial22	Posted - 2005.10.11 11:48:00 - [1] I've reprocess my Amarr Prophecy in order to be able to fund my Retriever mining barge (which im loving by the way) even more ore per minute than 6 miner II's on my prophecy. This is now my only ship, so i wanted to know what you would suggest I get cruiser wise (Amarr). and what I should fit onto it? I am able to control 6 medium drones also. Celestial22 CEO - The Celestial Knights
Baraak Tizhaan	Posted - 2005.10.11 15:28:00 - [2] Omen is pretty nifty and has space for 3 med drones. It gets a rof bonus and so can be setup as a mini-gankegeddon. Maller has no drone support, but gets bonuses for resistances and is able to tank better than the Omen. I've heard of people using the arbitrator to good effect as it is a drone carrier, but have no experience of this myself. [
Iasus	Posted - 2005.10.11 16:03:00 - [3] Don't fly Amarr if you want to mine. Get an Osprey, and put DCM IIs on it If you want to low sec mine, get an Apoc -- Remember: Pillage, then burn Originally by: Oveur I don't remember having intellectual intercourse with Paint.
Resin Kadir	Posted - 2005.10.11 17:57:00 - [4] If you read, he's already got a barge. Personally I like being able to hit more accurately and further. I think the Omen has an optimal range bonus or something so if you want to snipe, use the omen. If you want a tank use the Maller. _________________________________________ Shoot Squelch first, it was his idea!
Justin Cody	Posted - 2005.10.11 18:02:00 - [5] hehe...I would say an Arbitrator is a greatly underestimated ship and you should use it (especially after the MK 2 patch). drones drones drones "Ill armed and half starved, they were still desperate men, to whom danger had lost all fears: for what was death that they should shun it to cling to such a life as theirs?"--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Celestial22	Posted - 2005.10.12 12:54:00 - [6] "If you want to mine, dont be Amarr".... Great advice when I made this character about a year ago! Why bother gettin an osprey when I've got a barge that works perfectly fine? So, I don't quite get all this "tanking" "ganking" lark, can someone explain? Celestial22 CEO - The Celestial Knights
Dimitri Forgroth	Posted - 2005.10.12 12:58:00 - [7] Edited by: Dimitri Forgroth on 12/10/2005 12:59:52 4 focused med pulses, small nos web ab scram 3 heat sinks, small rep, 800mm plate tada (btw, anything the omen can do, the maller can do better) Originally by: Oveur I do not recall having intellectual intercourse with Paint. DPS Sheet
SeeD IX	Posted - 2005.10.12 13:21:00 - [8] i'm a fan of the maller. It can tank quite well and i just fit it with small pulses. and id give up anything for speed so i have an AB on at all times. goes pretty fast. look at all the maller setups across the boards :D Originally by: Ikvar The Vengeance NEEDS to be nerfed. It's ability to die FAR outclasses ANY OTHER SHIP IN THE GAME! One time, I engaged one and it went down in seconds, any other AF that can do that? Not r
Resin Kadir	Posted - 2005.10.12 13:33:00 - [9] Tanking refers to being able to take lots of damage for long periods without having to leave or blow up. Usually it means using resistance hardeners, armor/shield extenders, or dummies who use two repairers. Ganking refers to using damage and tracking modules to do loads of damage before your victim can think or to quickly pop smaller ships at great ranges. This is accomplished through using either damage modules (heatsinks for amarr) to get the quick gank, or tracking computers and trakcing enhancers, to increase your targeting optimal range so you can hit more accurately further away. _________________________________________ Shoot Squelch first, it was his idea!
Vivus Mors	Posted - 2005.10.12 13:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Iasus Don't fly Amarr if you want to mine. Get an Osprey, and put DCM IIs on it If you want to low sec mine, get an Apoc Hmmmà looks at first sentenceà looks at last sentenceà looks at Apocalypse ship description and statisticsà So let us all get this straightà IF you want to mine, you are saying for him NOT to fly Amarr? Perhaps you know something the rest of us have been overlooking these past few years, but if I recall correctly, the Apocalypse is not only an Amarr Battleship, but itÆs been the single most powerful mining ship in the game until Exodus, and to this day itÆs still VERY efficient (and quite prolific in all security levels) at mining itÆs only that the Covetor is simply more efficient that itÆs trumped the Apocalypse from the king of the mountain. The Amarr cruisers have been asked about for their NON-mining role(s) as he already said he is mining in a retriever. So the Osprey mining capability reference is made moot, since that is not what is in question. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks...
Karppa	Posted - 2005.10.13 09:50:00 - [11] I've been thinking of getting a mining barge... well, I got the basic barge at a good price but I'm still training the skills for it, using the basic barge as a stepping stone for the better ones... and fitting it with combat drones instead of mining drones, since a strip miner is quite a powerful mining tool and mining drones wouldn't really significantly affect the time to fill my hold, unless used in swarms. I've seen a couple of times some miners with a swarm of drones buzzing around them, but never actually thought of checking, if their mining or combat variants. Would this be a sensible solution, as I encounter frequently hostiles on my mining runs and would like to have some defences handy? Mining drones are useful, but would it be more useful to get combat drones to protect me when switching to a mining barge? -Define "best" for each and every opportunity and person and I'll shut up.
Celestial22	Posted - 2005.10.14 11:29:00 - [12] Im using Vespa I's with my Retriever, they seem to handle the rats in 0.5 fairly well Celestial22 CEO - The Celestial Knights
BoinKlasik	Posted - 2005.10.14 13:19:00 - [13] Edited by: BoinKlasik on 14/10/2005 13:21:13 Yeah my problem with .5s is the proliferation of missile rats in your occasional spawn. And the biggest issue with the barge is its short targeting range (22 or 21 km base or something) When missile rats can start pounding you from far longer range than that easily, mining can be a bit of a mess. Which means that i've taken my precious one med slot and given it a small shield booster, that has actualy solved most of my issues (unless im at the end of a cycle ;)) Tho, dont get the basic barge, its actually terrible for mining, retriver = 10/5/2 light/med/heavy drones Covetor pushes higher at 20 (haha right)/10/4 drones which is a far nicer defence force. Im considering on my covetor in .5+ space of jamming in 10 mining drones and either 10 light of 5 medium drones, could be fun ;)
Karppa	Posted - 2005.10.25 08:28:00 - [14] Edited by: Karppa on 25/10/2005 08:28:17 The basic barge is actually decent for getting used to bigger-scale mining. Plus, it's a lot cheaper then the medium barge, so you get a stepping stone for the bigger ones, while you wait for your skills to develope. But I agree. It sucks, compared to the bigger barges. I have only two Acolyte I's as protection, if you can call it protection... But still, I've been fairly comfortable in my small barge and while training for better barges it's a decent choise. -Define "best" for each and every opportunity and person and I'll shut up.
alphawolf2929	Posted - 2005.10.25 08:51:00 - [15] Go for omen....with good skills you can fit four heavy pulse lasers (i got uber skills so mine do like 120 at op) <3 5km op range. You dont have the skills for it yet but, arbitrater with 2x heavy pulse II's 6 heavy drones (i got 3xwasp 3xogre) and 2 400mm plates..... my arbitrater has 3k armor does decent damage with its lasers and the drones just rip through anything. My current fleet of ships is Omen Arbitrater Prophecy vengeance retribution punisher succubus. they all pwn. With low skills an omen would be best. but with high drone skills im fairly sure the arb does way more damage. (rip a 40k cruiser in a few seconds)

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