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Xain deSleena
Sugar Reef
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:31:00 -
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So I missed out on 'true stories for past 10 years' post so here is one for the record books. As the title of the post suggests Pandemic Legion known as PL are what I have come to know as a 'careful alliance'. Everything they do has a care factor to it and unlike most alliances in EVE PL has a long history of not committing to a fight without weeks and months of careful consideration to the amount of risk involved. It is for this reason alone that null sec fights died a slow death that we see today. Gone are the days when PL was a feared force who could drop in on you at anytime and any place. When you hear of super carrier graveyards in EVE you might think of places like Uemon or 49- however consider that PL are home to an extraordinary number of super carrier pilots whose days will come to an end logged off in low sec only seeing a small number of fights in their lifetime. Shadoo used to be a feared FC but nothing lasts forever and now they have the ever erratic Sort Dragon trying to get his PL mates to join him in glorious battles to no avail. Waiting for PL to fight is like waiting for a bear to come out of his cave. Gone are the days when PL used to be a hired gun when maybe they only had a few titans and a small fleet of supers. What happened to PL is that they have got too fat on the spoils and like all pirates have sat on their treasures ie. supers and tech moons. Now they are happy to roam in large super fleets now and then to show off their glory but who to? I have been waiting a long time for PL to fade away into nothing from the day they maliciously mauled a fleet of Zenith Affinity pilots after killing a Dreadnought on a station somewhere in Queriuos. While I had hoped they would go down in a mass of flames it seems they will go down as the sleeping giant that never woke up. That was oh so careful that they bored themselves to death and the great Shadoo in the process. PL may you die honourably and bring back some of the fear you once possessed. Rally behind your fearless Dragon and bring the life back into EVE that you are slowly sucking out of it through your carefulness and predictability. |

Danni stark
225
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:38:00 -
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paragraphs, i dare you. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |

Xain deSleena
Sugar Reef
11
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:44:00 -
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Done |

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1421
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:44:00 -
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E: OP learned how to use paragraphs. Improving NPE |

Xain deSleena
Sugar Reef
11
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:46:00 -
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Confirmed |

Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
730
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Posted - 2013.05.12 10:02:00 -
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If only CCP created an entire subforum just for these kinds of posts. They could name it, I don't know, "Corporation, Alliance & Organization Discussions" or something.
If only. |

Xain deSleena
Sugar Reef
11
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Posted - 2013.05.12 10:17:00 -
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If only. |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
454
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:10:00 -
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Did your main just get into PL and you want to get in on some of the old ass kicking? The old vets there and FC's return your suggestions and ideas with silence?
PL was in Providence last month; they didn't bring super caps and fleets that we couldn't respond to. They beat us in small ships because they know how to fight and fly and communicate.
If you are not getting in on the good fight fleets, and people don't talk to you that much it may be because they don't trust you yet. Maybe because you are new there, or maybe because you are the type of person who would bring internal issues to a public forum. Those people stick out like sore thumbs, or little fingers with damaged tendons. Posting with an alt is small defense in a case like this. -áImmersion = gameplayer self worth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsEPP3YQcxQ |

Lindsay en Gravonere
An Errant Venture
10
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:22:00 -
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Cool Story bro.
.......did you bring cake? |

Irya Boone
TIPIAKS
227
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Posted - 2013.05.12 11:45:00 -
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i think this thread has a connection with this thread ^^
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3009395#post3009395
And i think op is an alt of the other alliance RENAME null sec systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome. Need Black Ops be able to FIT cover ops cloaking device !!! |
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3179
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:13:00 -
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PL sure was being careful when they tried to headshot VFK.  TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Rual Storge
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:31:00 -
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JEeez,.... how many times i need to say this:
ITS NOT PANDEMIC LEGION BUT:
PUNANI LEGION
hehehe trololol |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
676
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Posted - 2013.05.12 12:42:00 -
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Looking at answers i'm the only one who can read enough to read OP to the end 
Well, looks like all 0.0 alliances became old and lazy these days. Eve mechanics made it so old established "careful" alliances are very difficult to beat. Let's hope something will change after all. Elsewere all life will finally move to high-sec and low-sec (as some people already say). 0.0 will become ISK-farm and people will visit empire for all fun then can have in the game. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2871
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Posted - 2013.05.12 14:47:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Eve mechanics made it so old established "careful" alliances are very difficult to beat.
It's always been like this. If you can't beat them, make them disappear. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Rual Storge
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.05.12 15:41:00 -
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ITs a sad thing that null sec has becomming soo boring. Only a handfull of ppl are creating this. Too bad these ppl wiped out different alliances that thought differently, that only cared about the fun, not hoarding isk.
The ironic fun thing about this is that the members of those alliances are bored to hell because of this yet they dont see it. Funny they dont realize they create less fun for themselves and more "fun" (rtm) for their leaders and they just go with the flow,
Guess thats the state of eve politice is nowaredays: Hoarding isk while playing other games in the background.
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
877
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Posted - 2013.05.12 15:55:00 -
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For shame, PL.
For shame. |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
456
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Posted - 2013.05.12 16:22:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:March rabbit wrote:Eve mechanics made it so old established "careful" alliances are very difficult to beat. It's always been like this. If you can't beat them, make them disappear.
Goons-10 bux-cheat-mouth-poof -áImmersion = gameplayer self worth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsEPP3YQcxQ |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1637
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Posted - 2013.05.12 19:45:00 -
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Rual Storge wrote:ITs a sad thing that null sec has becomming soo boring. Only a handfull of ppl are creating this. Too bad these ppl wiped out different alliances that thought differently, that only cared about the fun, not hoarding isk.
The ironic fun thing about this is that the members of those alliances are bored to hell because of this yet they dont see it. Funny they dont realize they create less fun for themselves and more "fun" (rtm) for their leaders and they just go with the flow,
Guess thats the state of eve politice is nowaredays: Hoarding isk while playing other games in the background.
What the hell are you even talking about? Most of the groups that got wiped out WERE isk hoarding buttlords. |

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
373
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Posted - 2013.05.12 20:49:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote: PL was in Providence last month; they didn't bring super caps and fleets that we couldn't respond to. They won most of the engagements because they know how to fight and fly and communicate.
With respect they won most of the important fights because they dropped slowcats and blapdreads on every moon they wanted and we (Provi) couldn't escalate the fight because of their superior capital and super capital numbers. There was also that time we almost killed a dreadnought of theirs so they brought in more carriers to keep it alive!
PL IS the careful alliance and that's how they survive! While I don't enjoy fighting them because of their tactics and vast capital abilities I respect that they know how to use them and they're not stupid enough to fall for taunts like this thread and welp a super fleet.
TL;DR: Alliances which commit to a fight without being ready are stupid, intel and picking your fights is how you keep you supers to use next time. Lieutenant Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
3994
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Posted - 2013.05.12 20:53:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:March rabbit wrote:Eve mechanics made it so old established "careful" alliances are very difficult to beat. It's always been like this. If you can't beat them, make them disappear.
Or in your case, and pretty much everyone else out in null...if you can't beat them...make them blue. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7785
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Posted - 2013.05.12 20:57:00 -
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gee why doesn't a 600 man alliance haphazardly try to take on everyone else in the game mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7785
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Posted - 2013.05.12 20:58:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Or in your case, and pretty much everyone else out in null...if you can't beat them...make them blue.
i'm sorry that our standings list disappoints you from the perspective of your ice mining mackinaw mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
676
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Posted - 2013.05.12 20:58:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:March rabbit wrote:Eve mechanics made it so old established "careful" alliances are very difficult to beat. It's always been like this. If you can't beat them, make them disappear. Or in your case, and pretty much everyone else out in null...if you can't beat them...make them blue. well, there is some legend about goons and BoB. Some even say goons killed BoB. But some other people recall something about BoB killed from inside....  |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
3995
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:05:00 -
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Andski wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Or in your case, and pretty much everyone else out in null...if you can't beat them...make them blue. i'm sorry that our standings list disappoints you from the perspective of your ice mining mackinaw
It's ok, you're always disappointing. |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1908
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:08:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Elsewere all life will finally move to high-sec and low-sec (as some people already say). 0.0 will become ISK-farm and people will visit empire for all fun then can have in the game. The game has almost always been like this. Aside from the time it was new, and up until the release of supers, null has been a snooze-fest.
Fighting in null is like entering into a pre-arranged marriage at the age of fourteen. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
374
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:08:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Andski wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Or in your case, and pretty much everyone else out in null...if you can't beat them...make them blue. i'm sorry that our standings list disappoints you from the perspective of your ice mining mackinaw It's ok, you're always disappointing. Do something to make null sec more exciting. Go to war against PL :)
Over what? tech moons which get nerfed in a months time?  PL has no Sov to attack and thus nothing they need to defend, unless you hit their moons for goo or supers. (AFAIK any way) Lieutenant Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
3995
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:12:00 -
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Turelus wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Andski wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Or in your case, and pretty much everyone else out in null...if you can't beat them...make them blue. i'm sorry that our standings list disappoints you from the perspective of your ice mining mackinaw It's ok, you're always disappointing. Do something to make null sec more exciting. Go to war against PL :) Over what? tech moons which get nerfed in a months time?  PL has no Sov to attack and thus nothing they need to defend, unless you hit their moons for goo or supers. (AFAIK any way)
So they could do it just for the hell of it. For fun if nothing else. Nothing super exciting happens out there anymore and it's because to many people are blue with each other. Not just referring to the CFC.
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Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
374
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:15:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Turelus wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Andski wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Or in your case, and pretty much everyone else out in null...if you can't beat them...make them blue. i'm sorry that our standings list disappoints you from the perspective of your ice mining mackinaw It's ok, you're always disappointing. Do something to make null sec more exciting. Go to war against PL :) Over what? tech moons which get nerfed in a months time?  PL has no Sov to attack and thus nothing they need to defend, unless you hit their moons for goo or supers. (AFAIK any way) So they could do it just for the hell of it. For fun if nothing else. Nothing super exciting happens out there anymore and it's because to many people are blue with each other. Not just referring to the CFC. You might want to read the news of what's happening in the south... that doesn't seem very blue or dull to me  Also why waste ships "just for the hell of it" also I am pretty sure PL has fun without needing to be in an all out war, if they didn't no one would be with them. Lieutenant Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District |

Bolow Santosi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:24:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Turelus wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Andski wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Or in your case, and pretty much everyone else out in null...if you can't beat them...make them blue. i'm sorry that our standings list disappoints you from the perspective of your ice mining mackinaw It's ok, you're always disappointing. Do something to make null sec more exciting. Go to war against PL :) Over what? tech moons which get nerfed in a months time?  PL has no Sov to attack and thus nothing they need to defend, unless you hit their moons for goo or supers. (AFAIK any way) So they could do it just for the hell of it. For fun if nothing else. Nothing super exciting happens out there anymore and it's because to many people are blue with each other. Not just referring to the CFC.
May 2012: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_krSvsHHt4
Today: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png
Yup sure looks stagnant |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
457
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Posted - 2013.05.12 21:50:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Andski wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Or in your case, and pretty much everyone else out in null...if you can't beat them...make them blue. i'm sorry that our standings list disappoints you from the perspective of your ice mining mackinaw It's ok, you're always disappointing. Do something to make null sec more exciting. Go to war against PL :)
Goons just utterly and completely destroyed Test. They may come back eventually, but in the meantime they have suffered a blapohmygod level loss. I don't know what their intentions are with regard to PL, but making people blue has nothing to do with whether or not you ultimately seek to destroy them. -áImmersion = gameplayer self worth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsEPP3YQcxQ |
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