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Naomi Knight Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 396	Posted - 2013.05.22 09:34:00 - [1] - Quote Bereza Mia wrote: After 60+ pages still can't understand why Typhoon FI have so enormously huge bonus. Why 7.5%? Even with 5% it will outperform any other T1/navy (and maybe even any T2) turret or missile BS. cause it is matar and we all know ccp are so biased they cant make matar balanced just op fleet typhoon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnr ****** balance
Naomi Knight Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 396	Posted - 2013.05.22 09:50:00 - [2] - Quote Johnson Oramara wrote: Naomi Knight wrote: Bereza Mia wrote: After 60+ pages still can't understand why Typhoon FI have so enormously huge bonus. Why 7.5%? Even with 5% it will outperform any other T1/navy (and maybe even any T2) turret or missile BS. cause it is matar and we all know ccp are so biased they cant make matar balanced just op fleet typhoon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cnr **** balance This why... Malcanis wrote:** Fleet Phoon is the "hardmode" ship, where piloting skill and fitting ability will count. The ship is able to apply higher theoretical DPS, but you'll need to work for it, and have a lot of SP invested too. CNR is going to be the "easymode" ship, where the pilot has to make the least effort and needs the fewest SP to apply this DPS hardmode? so a smaller faster ship with utility highs and more drones is hard mode? how? I realy cant see why using a better ship cosidered hardmode piloting skill wth? when did sp need started to be part of balance between same class of ships? so if i have all the sp the typhoon should just outperform cnr?that so dumb tell me how much more sp needed by the typhoon? huh?
Naomi Knight Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 397	Posted - 2013.05.22 20:20:00 - [3] - Quote "A matter of taste perhaps. But it works very well for me." :O if you like ** yeah matter of tastes, but most people dont like ** and wont buy this ship why make a ship ,especially a battleship which should be general purpose ship ,to be only used by such a small part of players in such a narrow situation
Naomi Knight Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 397	Posted - 2013.05.22 20:24:00 - [4] - Quote Morrigan LeSante wrote: Deerin wrote: I really want to see some fits where FPhoon completely obsolotes other ships. It is a hard to fit ship. People claiming Fphoon having higher DPS than competition should try to make a meaningful fit to it. More than 2 BCS on lows nerfs its armor tank. If you are shield tanking it and filling lows you'll get CPU and damage application issues. Here you go - from a PvE standpoint anyway. Obviously as cost comes down, fit gets tighter, sacrifices are made. The real cost are the Faction BCUs, but its nigh impossible to fit a CNR today any other way so I guess people need to suck it up. pimped [Phoon Fleet Oddessy, ML - test] 6x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Inferno Fury Cruise Missile) Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster 2x Caldari Navy Adaptive Invulnerability Field Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron 4x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 3x Drone Damage Amplifier II 3x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst 5x Garde II Omni can be swapped for painter - not run math. The omni gives the gardes 39+12 and having used them in that exact fit (single omni) before, the tracking is perfectly fine, unless you're being stupid. Allowing for 30% cruise buff, we're looking at.....just over 1600dps more conservative i.e. cheaper: [Phoon Fleet Oddessy, ML - test] 6x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Inferno Fury Cruise Missile) Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster 2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 2x Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron 4x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 3x Drone Damage Amplifier II 3x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst 5x Bouncer II Change of drones to mitigate range without omni. 1546 DPS ninja edit: all numbers are without heat @ all V and no DPS implants If you're prepared to lose a DDA (~50dps) and add a co-processer II, you can start adding all sorts of fun stuff in those empty highs. And as I've mentioned in another post - CMLs, two painters and rigors are how I roll today, albeit on a CNR and I can assure you there are no application issues whatsoever, unless I ping fury at...frigates. Which would make me an idiot, which I'm not. The Phoon is simply batshit crazy come odessy. omg i didnt make any fits ,but these stats even more op than i thought this ship will be btw are those 3 rigor rigs necesary? the drones could kill the small stuff pretty quickly with 3 damage mods

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