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Recon One
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Posted - 2005.10.15 08:50:00 -
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I figured since I post much over time I'd take my occainal stab at writing here. So flamers and what not have fun.
I have both fought against BOB and with them now at various times. I have to honestly say that when it comes to PvP they are more professinal than most of those I have fought with against BOB. I mean to include a lot of the sniper gangs of FA in that statement. They fight like a bunch of soldiers and not like a loose group of warriors. That doesnt mean by any chance that they do not have a sense of respect and honor... fly into to Delve asking for a 1v1 and see what happens. They know how to fight and keep the pressure up at a very high level... some days it works and they win big some days it doesnt and they lose but they keep coming back. They fight as a group supporting its members so that they all win not just a random glory hound and they arent afraid to lose ships of ANY type. Now there is an idea to think on... They back thier friends and they dont leave them out on a branch.... You want another good example of this look at FIX they fight the same way... very very good PvP and very honorable in what all I have seen of them. Dont like them well hey stand in line i believe the front is in Delve and the back is somewhere up in Tenal... dont worry im sure they will get to ya eventualy...
Note from my experience when I first ran into them I was fighting them and didnt think much of them as they fit what I would call pirates.... well got to know them a bit better and like EVERYONE else they have their good guys and their bad ones... deal with it.
This is NOT an I love BOB post in any way however I do respect them a lot more for having fought with them even for a short time.
Oh one other note Recon One gets called an alt a fair amount well I would guess that there are a number of people who know this is my main and if you see me now days I'm probably trying to rebuild my bank role....
Well I said my piece and now you all get to say yours but keep it civil please as I try to do when you get me or I get you....
Would like to see some more of the great fights I have seen in the past but alot less of the random forum bashing by those who cant manage much else.
Oh one other thing if you cant post in here with a main dont bother never have thought alot of the forum warrior alt types.
GL all and clear skies filled the opportunities you seek
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FILFIUS
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Posted - 2005.10.15 09:16:00 -
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I love Bob post and thats all it is.
If they are that good , they dont need an alt having to write complimentary words about them.
They would show it with actions
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Galaxion
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Posted - 2005.10.15 09:16:00 -
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Here Here. This man speaketh the truth -----------------------------------------
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.15 09:25:00 -
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what they said :)
Such is Life
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Fedaykin Naib
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Posted - 2005.10.15 09:53:00 -
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honest to god i stoped after the second sentence, because after that it just sounded like another bob alt trying to pat themselves on the back.
"Long Live the Fighters!"
"The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.10.15 09:57:00 -
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yes imp are finding out how good BOB is and both sides having a ball at the mometn as well
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.15 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib honest to god i stoped after the second sentence, because after that it just sounded like another bob alt trying to pat themselves on the back.
five posts feyd? you must be slacking
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2005.10.15 14:05:00 -
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Let the alliances call us nubs, they might come fight us... I could use more targets
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Kariss
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Posted - 2005.10.15 15:28:00 -
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I would agree that BoB are certainly highly skilled PVPers and certainly live up to theior reputation however what I can't understand is them complaining that almost none of the alliances and corps they fight are much competition and then they nap and align themselves with those that could do.
The only real negative points however are the nonsensical diatribe they spout ocassionaly on the forums.. by this I am referring to the CaKe and spoon nonsense etc.
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Khaerie
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Posted - 2005.10.15 15:41:00 -
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The only experience I have had directly with BOB is the day they ****ed off my CEO and he went to war with them. I recall it quite well, they kept saying, you realize that you are fighting Bob and you will bringing down a whole alliance right? My CEO told them, "I don't care, we're all rich."
I was quite grateful when he finally became distracted with a different situation. I do not expect BOB to remember this as it was nearly a year ago.
I enjoyed your post Recon, it gives me some insight to BOB outside of the roleplay aspect. Thank you, also, for the kind words you said about FIX.
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zarc
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Posted - 2005.10.15 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Recon One They back thier friends and they dont leave them out on a branch....
Indeed they do!
I remember supporting RKK in the GNW as a member of COD until it was over we formed the NSA and BOB took our stations. They really backed us!!
Or the time they attacked Fountain while being blue!! Or even still attacking NORAD now. BNC are showing real friendship and not leaving old friends out on a branch!
Nope tbh...They are now friends with the ex-CA corps that they have been at war with since EvE began. And not out of respect or fear but because ATUK said so....
What great guys
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.10.15 16:30:00 -
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they dont really have to be great guys .. whatever is the most fun is whats best .. however napping the other good pvp group can hardly be that much fun :p
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Bozl1n
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Posted - 2005.10.15 18:47:00 -
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Quote: They back thier friends and they dont leave them out on a branch....
A frendly game of Trick or Treat 4tw?
Maybe not
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Chrony
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Posted - 2005.10.15 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Chrony on 15/10/2005 18:59:32 Edited by: Chrony on 15/10/2005 18:59:10
Quote: Or the time they attacked Fountain while being blue!! Or even still attacking NORAD now. BNC are showing real friendship and not leaving old friends out on a branch!
LOL? NORAD chose to NAP IMP, its their own fault... or would you chose to not fight someone who clearly supports your enemy?
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idimmu69
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Posted - 2005.10.15 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Khaerie The only experience I have had directly with BOB is the day they ****ed off my CEO and he went to war with them. I recall it quite well, they kept saying, you realize that you are fighting Bob and you will bringing down a whole alliance right? My CEO told them, "I don't care, we're all rich."
I was quite grateful when he finally became distracted with a different situation. I do not expect BOB to remember this as it was nearly a year ago.
wasn't that the little corp in torrinos where the ceo started that classic anti-blacklight/bnc web-page, calling us all thugs and storm-troopers, and accusing us of promoting drugs and alcohol towards minors? that was really funny at the time.
idi
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FubarSF
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Posted - 2005.10.15 19:22:00 -
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Yikes.. This thread is going to get ugly because it's got one of those magic words in the title (that will bring out the alts, fanbois, and every other forum warroir)
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Bruchpilot
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Posted - 2005.10.15 20:00:00 -
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And the point of this post is?
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2005.10.15 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: FubarSF Yikes.. This thread is going to get ugly because it's got one of those magic words in the title (that will bring out the alts, fanbois, and every other forum warroir)
Talking about yourself again?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.15 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: FubarSF Yikes.. This thread is going to get ugly because it's got one of those magic words in the title (that will bring out the alts, fanbois, and every other forum warroir)
With you on that one, fubarsf.
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Cherok
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Posted - 2005.10.15 21:27:00 -
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For the most part I agree. BOB and in particular Evol have some serious immature people though. People who when they enter local you just cringe to see the name. They talk in All caps and say just about anything they can think of offensively for 3 hours. Looks really bad on the rest.
On the whole though, BOB are mature and very good at PVP. Its always been my experience they will mostly engage you when they have the upperhand. I can't fault them for this as most everyone in the game do the same usually... but when we bring 2, they will SS and bring 8. I don't mean to start a Flame here. Its just in my experience.
Perhaps others have better luck. I may even mention in local while I'm at SS that we won't come out when outnumbered like that. So they all leave to next system and camp gate leaving scouts/bait. Etc...etc....
This is again, in my experience only. So perhaps other have had better luck. More BOB in FA though, IMO the better. I like targets coming to us rather than having to chase them.
I also don't understand why a PVP heavy alliance like BOB needs to make friends with so many people? Thats less targets for them....
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:08:00 -
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This stuff about us always bringing bigger numbers is largely rubbish.
When we enter an alliance's space, combat goes through a number of stages:
1) OMGWTF Alliance megablob (BoB outblobbed)
Every alliance member, wife and his dog (or cat) is out in a combat ship. The age old, there's so much lag you cant possibly fight us trick.
We ususally still engage (because most of our fleet leaders are wired that way (nutters)). Might do something sneaky, tactical or clever, but we'll have a fight.
2) PvPers ahoy (Equal Numbers)
The less combat inclined have sloped off surreptitiously to lick / caress veldspar roids and run missions in empire. The PvPers of the alliance, veteran and green are around and about and we get more or less equal numbers (fleet compositions will likely be very different). Some good battles.
3) Die Hard Lunatics only. (mr flibble)
There's two sorts of people left by stage 3:
a) harcore PvPers, people who are so stoked that there's a multitude of targets 23/7 that someone would have to staple their clone to the station in empire to ever get rid of them. Some join other alliances/corps or move about a bit, but stay in the combat arena. Largely fun people to have around.
b) Lunatic delusionalists. This lot think they won the war, they're Napoleon and that theres a secret alliance army hidden behind the sun. They also claim that BoB just out blob them and that we really cant PvP, we're just forum warriors.
They hate us with an unhealthy passion, and convince themsleves and others that we hack / cheat / are gms / only fight in blobs. Some are unpleasant, some are just ticked off.
We tend to have alot more people around at this stage so people come to the conclusion 'bob only fight when they outnumber'.
As a general rule.
Bob will fight outnumbered perhaps 2:1 or more, depends on our fleet composition. (unless it's really really really really really really really stupid to engage and even then dbp still does).
Our enemies will not, unless it's to snipe lone frigates, with 6+ WCS fitted. (exceptions to this rule know who they are, and have earned a great deal if respect)
Some of our fights are going to be harder than others. We've had it easy so far.
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Chrony
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:05:00 -
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Quote: but when we bring 2, they will SS and bring 8.
1.) We could use the same excuse ever other alliance is using, its our space and we will use as many pilots as it needs to lock down a system and to try to get you. (Even though i have never seen a scene like you just descriped happening...)
2.) Are you from the same Fountain Alliance that needed a 130 men blob and 6 Bubbles in 3WE-KY to kill 11 Vigils and 1 Crusader (Oh 3 Vigil and the Crusader still got out. The rest did suicide against 5 BS.)
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Riggwelter
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Chrony
LOL? NORAD chose to NAP IMP, its their own fault... or would you chose to not fight someone who clearly supports your enemy?
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Does this mean if your not at war with BOB's current target of the month your helping them. Im confused
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Chrony
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Riggwelter Does this mean if your not at war with BOB's current target of the month your helping them. Im confused
No, NORAD had +5 Standings with BNC until they decided to sign a NAP with IMP. Thats all.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cherok For the most part I agree. BOB and in particular Evol have some serious immature people though. People who when they enter local you just cringe to see the name. They talk in All caps and say just about anything they can think of offensively for 3 hours. Looks really bad on the rest.
rofl, I guess you either met Deathwing or frst :P
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:34:00 -
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to be honest saying norad was stabbed in back or hwatever by bnc is just wrong some things just work out were your on opposite sides, alot of norad still has a great respect for BNC, and I know personally they have helped norad many times, in the old northern war at end bob were rampaging everywhere they were bored but they did'nt come to destroy norad yet they could have at any time, yes norad did fall eventually to imperium but you think alot of bob fighters were'nt tempted to come down and have a bit of fun, my personal opinion is NORAD owes alot to BNC/BOB maybe less os now but back then we did.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:34:00 -
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Everyone come look how good looking I am.
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Dezzyb0y on 16/10/2005 01:52:19 Boo hoo, I see oh so many cries about BoB i'm getting quite bored. Seriously if you read this post and are thinking about posting another BoB thread please ask your self these questions...
Is it something new?
Does anybody actually care?
K if the answers to these questions are no, then, Start doing something about us!? So many cries so little actions.
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Fast Track
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:26:00 -
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I've fought BoB for awhile now, I respect most of them. They have their good and bad like every alliance, corp..etc. They have a very good PR machine, good for them. Doesn't mean what they say is the truth, but they have the same rights as I do for posting. All I can say is good luck to all who play the game and have fun.
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.10.16 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cherok
On the whole though, BOB are mature and very good at PVP. Its always been my experience they will mostly engage you when they have the upperhand. I can't fault them for this as most everyone in the game do the same usually... but when we bring 2, they will SS and bring 8. I don't mean to start a Flame here. Its just in my experience.
When checking our killboard I see that you've hardly been involved in -any- fights with BoB. We had some good fights with the FA that used to exist in Fountain, maybe ask them. |
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