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Tom Gerard Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1042	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:41:00 - [1] - Quote Scenario: New England 2009 A man bursts into a woman's house, points a gun at her head and shouts: "PRAWNS OR SHRIMP?!?!" She panics... but manages to answer... Satsified the man leaves without incident... what would your answer be? One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg
defiler Mad Hermit Wayward Alliance 67	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:44:00 - [2] - Quote Neither. Probably missing some major event or some such, but I don't like anything living in water. Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Alara IonStorm 5036	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:50:00 - [3] - Quote Conform to my dialect or die! Both are fine, the nut job is not.
Tom Gerard Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1042	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:52:00 - [4] - Quote The Answer: Man was laid off from a shrimping company after their buyer decided to source prawns from overseas. She answered ... "Shrimp" He was later arrested for public intoxication, but no assault charges were filed. One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg
defiler Mad Hermit Wayward Alliance 68	Posted - 2013.05.16 22:58:00 - [5] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: the nut job is not. Yes I am! That was directed at me, right? Honestly. The best justification for eating what's-its-name I've heard is that "it doesn't taste like anything, so why not ?" No thanks, I'd rather have some bacon. [homer]Mm, dead mammals.[/homer] Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Kirjava Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 6547	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:04:00 - [6] - Quote Shrimp, I bloody hate prawns. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\
Eurydia Vespasian Nova Insula Mining and Industrial 2555	Posted - 2013.05.16 23:16:00 - [7] - Quote i always thought they were the same things.
dark heartt I Own Four Sheep Nyratic 267	Posted - 2013.05.17 02:51:00 - [8] - Quote Aussie here. We call them prawns. A shrimp is a tiny little thing in the water you use for bait as a kid. A prawn is what you eat. Bienator II: "You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose." I play in highsec.
Astenion Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate 261	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:08:00 - [9] - Quote Prawns are not shrimp...they're two different animals. I don't care where you're from or what you call them...this isn't "nappies" and "diapers". Prawns are bigger. Shrimp > prawns, at least to my tastes.
Alice Saki Suddenly Spaced Out Suddenly Spaceships. 50502	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:15:00 - [10] - Quote Tiger Prawns GÖÑ Saede GÖÑ We Remember ThGÖÑnks Zimmy GÖÑ Alice Saki's 3rd Party Service GÖÑ

Micheal Dietrich Kings Gambit Black 1835	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:15:00 - [11] - Quote dark heartt wrote: A prawn is what you eat. In mother Johannesburg, prawns eat you! Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 1770	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:32:00 - [12] - Quote Astenion wrote: Prawns are not shrimp...they're two different animals. I don't care where you're from or what you call them...this isn't "nappies" and "diapers". Prawns are bigger. Shrimp > prawns, at least to my tastes. This^ Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
Eurydia Vespasian Nova Insula Mining and Industrial 2578	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:47:00 - [13] - Quote silens vesica wrote: Astenion wrote: Prawns are not shrimp...they're two different animals. I don't care where you're from or what you call them...this isn't "nappies" and "diapers". Prawns are bigger. Shrimp > prawns, at least to my tastes. This^ not exactly According to the crustacean taxonomist Tin-Yam Chan, "The terms shrimp and prawn have no definite reference to any known taxonomic groups. Although the term shrimp is sometimes applied to smaller species, while prawn is more often used for larger forms, there is no clear distinction between both terms and their usage is often confused or even reverse in different countries or regions." idk about the rest of us...but i'm willing to take the word of tin-yan chan. as an expert crustacean taxonomist...his word is basically The Law when it comes to sea bugs. also Alice Saki wrote: Tiger Prawns GÖÑ penaeus monodon lol penaeus
Random McNally Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 10481	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:50:00 - [14] - Quote Eurydia Vespasian wrote: silens vesica wrote: Astenion wrote: Prawns are not shrimp...they're two different animals. I don't care where you're from or what you call them...this isn't "nappies" and "diapers". Prawns are bigger. Shrimp > prawns, at least to my tastes. This^ not exactly According to the crustacean taxonomist Tin-Yam Chan, "The terms shrimp and prawn have no definite reference to any known taxonomic groups. Although the term shrimp is sometimes applied to smaller species, while prawn is more often used for larger forms, there is no clear distinction between both terms and their usage is often confused or even reverse in different countries or regions." idk about the rest of us...but i'm willing to take the word of tin-yan chan. as an expert crustacean taxonomist...his word is basically The Law when it comes to sea bugs. also Alice Saki wrote: Tiger Prawns GÖÑ penaeus monodon lol penaeus Ice cold rebuttal. Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ Free Saede!!-á Grats to the CSM 8 elect!!!
Alice Saki Suddenly Spaced Out Suddenly Spaceships. 50508	Posted - 2013.05.17 17:55:00 - [15] - Quote Saede GÖÑ We Remember ThGÖÑnks Zimmy GÖÑ Alice Saki's 3rd Party Service GÖÑ
Astenion Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate 262	Posted - 2013.05.17 18:26:00 - [16] - Quote Eurydia Vespasian wrote: silens vesica wrote: Astenion wrote: Prawns are not shrimp...they're two different animals. I don't care where you're from or what you call them...this isn't "nappies" and "diapers". Prawns are bigger. Shrimp > prawns, at least to my tastes. This^ not exactly According to the crustacean taxonomist Tin-Yam Chan, "The terms shrimp and prawn have no definite reference to any known taxonomic groups. Although the term shrimp is sometimes applied to smaller species, while prawn is more often used for larger forms, there is no clear distinction between both terms and their usage is often confused or even reverse in different countries or regions." idk about the rest of us...but i'm willing to take the word of tin-yan chan. as an expert crustacean taxonomist...his word is basically The Law when it comes to sea bugs. also Alice Saki wrote: Tiger Prawns GÖÑ penaeus monodon lol penaeus G'ahead and take the word of Tin Man Chan that you got from Wikipedia, call the cops I don't give a f*ck. I kid, I kid. But seriously, prawns are physically different from shrimp. Although they're still very similar and in many cases can be used interchangeably, it's used interchangeably simply because it's common to overlook the error. It's like calling a pizza with salamino a pepperoni pizza; it's wrong but the vernacular is so common that people overlook it...just don't say it in Italy. The entire rest of the world is literally wrong in this, but no one really bothers to correct it because it's so common (peperoni are bell peppers, not spicy salame). For some reason the rest of the world fails to see the root word "pepper" in "peperone" and thinks it comes from a pig. Saying shrimp and prawns are the same thing is like saying crawfish are just small, freshwater lobsters. No. Yum
Micheal Dietrich Kings Gambit Black 1842	Posted - 2013.05.17 18:41:00 - [17] - Quote Or perhaps the rest of the world is right which is why its in common usage! Also, when I see pepper I think of spices, not pork, which would make sense when talking about a spicy meat. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 3919	Posted - 2013.05.17 19:53:00 - [18] - Quote Put down your gun stranger, and join me in this feast of Crawfish. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Reuben Johnson Gal-Min Industries 131	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:09:00 - [19] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: Scenario: New England 2009 A man bursts into a woman's house, points a gun at her head and shouts: "PRAWNS OR SHRIMP?!?!" She panics... but manages to answer... Satsified the man leaves without incident... what would your answer be? um "Uh, I think I just pooped myself"?
Faulker Gath'nor Templar Directorate Holdings Templar Command 197	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:33:00 - [20] - Quote Either, saut+¬ed in butter, white wine and garlic, please. Deliver them to my quarters immediately.

Astenion Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate 262	Posted - 2013.05.17 23:09:00 - [21] - Quote Micheal Dietrich wrote: Or perhaps the rest of the world is right which is why its in common usage! Also, when I see pepper I think of spices, not pork, which would make sense when talking about a spicy meat. Dude, what? Pizza is an Italian dish. Salame piccante (or "pepperoni") is not just an Italian food, BUT IT'S AN ITALIAN WORD...it's just misspelled in English. Peperone is the Italian word for BELL PEPPER. A bell pepper is still a pepper, even if it's not spicy...this isn't rocket science. I don't give a sh*t whether or not you consider it a pepper, IT'S A PEPPER REGARDLESS. Are you gonna start calling pork beef while you're at it? Why don't you just change the name hamburger to celery? It's called peperone because of the word "pepe" which means "pepper" and the suffix "one" (pronounced ONAY) which means big. Hence, big pepper. Pepperoni is a misspelled misnomer. Make the word plural and...get ready because I'm gonna blow your mind....it becomes PEPERONI (pronounced "pepperoni", like in English). WHAT A COINCIDENCE! Not only does the rest of the word screw up the actual definition of peperoni but it's not even spelled correctly. The word "pepperoni" is a bastardization of the word "peperone", and the "pepperoni" you're referring to is AN ITALIAN MEAT called salame piccante, also known as "salamino" , or rather, "spicy salame". And let me repeat: it's accepted as pepperoni everywhere but Italy because of a misunderstanding, but the misunderstanding is so large that the rest of the world just goes with it, as with the prawn/shrimp argument. That said, it's still wrong, but when I go back to the states every now and then I don't order a "pepperoni pizza" expecting to get bell peppers. You just go with it. Just because millions of people call it pepperoni doesn't mean it's right, but at this point it's so widespread it would be an exercise in futility to correct it. So how did it become known as pepperoni in the states then? Well, as usual, Americans tend to skim just the top of international cuisine and then just make up the rest as they go along, more often than not ruining the original and then claiming it to be their own. This is especially true with Italian food. Spaghetti and meatballs, pepperoni instead of salamino, fettucine alfredo (which is total garbage and an insult to Italian food) are all American dishes, not Italian. Ever heard of "gabbagool"? It's idiot American Italian speak for "capocollo". In the southern parts of Italy the Cs sound like Gs and they tend to mesh vowels and consonants together. So, in effect, you have a bunch of morons in Brooklyn and New Jersey running around saying "gabbagool" because they didn't understand what their grandparents or parents were really saying. Multiply that by millions and capocollo becomes gabbagool in the US. Still wrong, still nonsensical.
Hrothgar Nilsson Black Guards 317	Posted - 2013.05.18 00:18:00 - [22] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: what would your answer be? Depends on how big the crustacean were... small = shrimp, large = prawn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8
Hrothgar Nilsson Black Guards 317	Posted - 2013.05.18 00:32:00 - [23] - Quote Astenion wrote: Dude, what? Pizza is an Italian dish. I'd take a good American pizza over what would be considered the "best" Italian pizza any day. Quote: A bell pepper is still a pepper, even if it's not spicy...this isn't rocket science. I don't give a sh*t whether or not you consider it a pepper, IT'S A PEPPER REGARDLESS. Are you gonna start calling pork beef while you're at it? Why don't you just change the name hamburger to celery? Actually, it is kind of like calling pork beef. Europeans called capsicum fruits they discovered in the Americas 500 years ago peppers because they were spicy, like pepper. That's like calling pork beef, because, like, it's meaty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8
Micheal Dietrich Kings Gambit Black 1848	Posted - 2013.05.18 00:57:00 - [24] - Quote Right, like I said, if the rest of the world is saying it, then its correct. Now I want a pepperoni pizza. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE
Astenion Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate 262	Posted - 2013.05.18 12:34:00 - [25] - Quote Shakes head You're missing the point. If "pepperoni" is an Italian meat, which it is, then it's not called "pepperoni"...it's called salamino. Again, this isn't nappies vs. diapers. It's not like there's a different word for a hamburger; a hamburger is a hamburger no matter where you are in the world because it's called hamburger. It's a German word even though it's stereotypically American. Is pizza an American word too, then? Of course not. If you're gonna say everyone else is right, then let's rename pizza to pasta bread meat and vegetable pie. Oh wait, we can't because the word "pasta" is Italian as well. Pepperoni is a misnomer; it's a misspelled Italian word for something that isn't "peperoni". The rest of the world also claimed that the world was flat at one time, and that the sun revolved around the earth; were they correct as well? While we're at it, why don't we just rename all the other Italian words we use for music like "solo", "arpeggio", "opera", "soprano", etc.? Because it would be f*cking stupid, that's why...yet it didn't stop us from renaming salamino to pepperoni. As far as different pizza types go, that's all subjective and up to individual tastes. There are some great pizzas made in the states, whether it's Italian style or Chicago style or NY style, they're all different styles of pizza but IT'S STILL PIZZA. The US has some great pizzas and pizzerias if you don't mind paying 30 bucks for a decent "real" pizza. I prefer Italian-style pizza because the average American pizza is blech. Plastic shredded mozzarella with awful ingredients and such. If you think Italian pizza is bad, you've never had real Italian pizza. If you have had Italian pizza here and you didn't like it, you either: A. Have awful taste in food or B. Got screwed by eating at some overpriced dump aimed at stupid tourists who don't know any better. Here's a hint: if no locals are eating there, there's a reason for it.
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 75	Posted - 2013.05.18 18:22:00 - [26] - Quote Astenion wrote: If "pepperoni" is an Italian meat, which it is, then it's not called "pepperoni"...it's called salamino. If you want to name it something that's not an Italian word... LOL. I don't think anyone has to want to name it anything. It's already widely known as 'pepperoni,' in American culture, and has been for decades. You won't be 'taking it back' with your online etymology lesson.
Astenion Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate 262	Posted - 2013.05.18 20:37:00 - [27] - Quote You obviously didn't read my first post. I said there's no use in changing it now because it's so widespread. When I go back home to the states and order a pepperoni pizza, I know I'm ordering salamino. You just go with the flow. The difference, however, is when everyone else comes to Italy and orders a "pepperoni" pizza and they get a pizza with bell peppers on it, they scratch their heads and get all pissed off and say they screwed up their order. No, you're just being an ignorant prick because you didn't know the difference. I'm replying to MD's post who claimed that the rest of the world is right. No, the rest of the world is mistaken. No one's trying to "take anything back" just proving a point that just because a lot of people call something by a certain name doesn't mean it's correct. That's what the term "misnomer" means...kinda like The World Series. It's also true for prawns and shrimp. This whole thing reminds me of Louis CK's standup routine where he's talking about white people coming to America for the first time and discovering the Native Americans and calling them "Indians". His point was, even when we know something's not right, we're too stupid and arrogant to change just because we feel we don't have to even when we're wrong. "But you're not in India, and we're not Indian. We've been here for ages...we're not even from that part of the world." "Are you sure about that?" "Well, yeah..." "......BAH you're Indians!!!!!"
Eurydia Vespasian Nova Insula Mining and Industrial 2638	Posted - 2013.05.18 20:50:00 - [28] - Quote i guess the moral of all this is "when in rome..."
Micheal Dietrich Kings Gambit Black 1862	Posted - 2013.05.18 21:09:00 - [29] - Quote Astenion wrote: "spicy red pork tube" That sounds too complicated. I like Pepperoni more. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE
Astenion Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate 263	Posted - 2013.05.18 21:10:00 - [30] - Quote Eurydia Vespasian wrote: i guess the moral of all this is "when in rome..." And we have a winner! Nice pun, btw.



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