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kingchip randchip
Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2013.05.20 01:22:00 -
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Ran a 10/10 for the third time today with the same fit ive always used
Tengu
His
6 HML
Improved cloak
MEDS
Pithum C-type Med booster
Caldari Navy shield amp
Dread guristas Invuln
Corelum C-type AB
Pith-x type Explosive deflection field
Lows
Caldari navy BCUs x 4
SUBS
Cpu gate
adaptive shielding
augmented cap res
accelerated eject bay
intercalated nanofibers
Also Perfect Off grid siege boosts...
Shield rep rate was 199 every 1.9 seconds
After finishing the first 4 rooms i warped into the last room as always and the Overseer didn't hit me with a special as he always does... About a minute and some change later after i had killed the stasis towers (which were not webbing me ) he 1 hit blapped me from full shield? Oddly enough I had ran this site the day before and he usually only hit for 30-40% of my shield which i quickly repped
I went into my logs and found the killing hit
9488 The Antimatter Channeler - Wrecks
and here he is hitting me from not only a day before....
2061 The Antimatter Channeler - Penetrates
Not really understanding why his damage went from being what i calculated (about 2k)
to 9k? nearly his full damage?
Link to NPC :
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=17749
Aparently he deals 12.5k Omni
How my shiny tengu take such damage this time and not last time?
also i had to edit the logs to take out html... |
Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno
Malefic Motives
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Posted - 2013.05.20 01:59:00 -
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You were probably not at full AB speed and at very low transversal. |
kingchip randchip
Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2013.05.20 02:13:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:You were probably not at full AB speed and at very low transversal.
even if i were setting at 0 his top damage is 12.5k
With 3 resists at 90+ and em at 55 how would he possibly hit 9k?
also if it counts for anything i do believe i was abing at full speed... |
Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
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Posted - 2013.05.20 02:33:00 -
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kingchip randchip wrote:I went into my logs and found the killing hit
9488 The Antimatter Channeler - Wrecks
That's your answer already.
You were just lucky to not get hitted for wrecking shots before. A DCII could have saved your day maybe?
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DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
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Posted - 2013.05.20 02:41:00 -
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Quote:Also Perfect Off grid siege boosts...
I can't wait for all the Forum screaming when CCP removes this exploit. Yeah yeah, it's not really an exploit because CCP didn't make the mechanic so it HAD to be on-grid, but they are soon. It's gonna be ultra satisfying to know fewer and fewer players will be able to multi-box SOLO the MMORPG that is Eve Online in their stupidly expensive Deadspace fit ships. That and the incoming nerf to kick T3 out of DeD 3/4's will be so much the better.
To the OP, I know your post wasn't a crying flame of CCP's mechanics and you probably have more than enough ISK to replace your ship so my topic wasn't slated directly at you. There are however far too many players who fit such ships and cry and complain when anything happens to said ships like it's CCP's sole responsibility to protect them from all harm while they Solo Eve, lol.
The Operative:-á"There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now".
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds:-á"You have no idea how true that is". |
kingchip randchip
Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2013.05.20 02:47:00 -
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Mother Drone wrote:kingchip randchip wrote:I went into my logs and found the killing hit
9488 The Antimatter Channeler - Wrecks That's your answer already. You were just lucky to not get hitted for wrecking shots before. A DCII could have saved your day maybe?
Could you explain how these work?
I thought that just explained how well you were getting hit?
Let me do some quick math..
Em EXP KIN THE
2,5005,0002,5002,500
55% 93% 90% 94%
1125 + 350 + 250 + 150= 1875 Damage a bit over 1/3 of my shield
So does a low signature radius AMPLIFY his raw damage before resists? or does it simply determine what % of the resisted damage you are hit with? |
kingchip randchip
Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2013.05.20 02:50:00 -
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DeLindsay wrote:Quote:Also Perfect Off grid siege boosts... I can't wait for all the Forum screaming when CCP removes this exploit. Yeah yeah, it's not really an exploit because CCP didn't make the mechanic so it HAD to be on-grid, but they are soon. It's gonna be ultra satisfying to know fewer and fewer players will be able to multi-box SOLO the MMORPG that is Eve Online in their stupidly expensive Deadspace fit ships. That and the incoming nerf to kick T3 out of DeD 3/4's will be so much the better. To the OP, I know your post wasn't a crying flame of CCP's mechanics and you probably have more than enough ISK to replace your ship so my topic wasn't slated directly at you. There are however far too many players who fit such ships and cry and complain when anything happens to said ships like it's CCP's sole responsibility to protect them from all harm while they Solo Eve, lol.
Ah yes, I also do not agree with off grid boosts. That however is not enough to deter me from using them. I will not be put at a disadvantage because I disagree with something. |
Andrew Indy
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.20 03:15:00 -
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Wrecking Hits have a 3X Multiplier on them as far as I know. So he was doing 37k damage to you.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Turret_damage |
kingchip randchip
Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2013.05.20 03:18:00 -
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Ah that answers it i guess huh
Ouch 37k omni damage?
ah well |
Marc Callan
Interstellar Steel
Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.05.20 08:32:00 -
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Yeah, too many people look at the EFT numbers and forget that when dealing with turrets, those numbers are variable; that goes for the rats as well as player ships. If the rat hit you in the resistance hole and punched through your buffer in between shield cycles...
"Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred..."
- Niccolo Machiavelli-á |
kingchip randchip
Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2013.05.20 14:35:00 -
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Marc Callan wrote:Yeah, too many people look at the EFT numbers and forget that when dealing with turrets, those numbers are variable; that goes for the rats as well as player ships. If the rat hit you in the resistance hole and punched through your buffer in between shield cycles...
Yeah I actually didn't realise that attack is considered a turret... The eve wiki makes it look alot more like a smartbomb attack |
Gary Bell
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.20 15:19:00 -
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DeLindsay wrote:Quote:Also Perfect Off grid siege boosts... I can't wait for all the Forum screaming when CCP removes this exploit. Yeah yeah, it's not really an exploit because CCP didn't make the mechanic so it HAD to be on-grid, but they are soon. It's gonna be ultra satisfying to know fewer and fewer players will be able to multi-box SOLO the MMORPG that is Eve Online in their stupidly expensive Deadspace fit ships. That and the incoming nerf to kick T3 out of DeD 3/4's will be so much the better. To the OP, I know your post wasn't a crying flame of CCP's mechanics and you probably have more than enough ISK to replace your ship so my topic wasn't slated directly at you. There are however far too many players who fit such ships and cry and complain when anything happens to said ships like it's CCP's sole responsibility to protect them from all harm while they Solo Eve, lol.
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They ay very well change this one day.. But guess what it isnt gonna be anytime soon because they are going to have to completely rework the bonus system as anything else will fully break the rorquel..
Soo whine more off grid booster tears whine
And for the record.. Eve is a sandbox.. They let you play it how you want.. they will never change a mechanic that stops you from solo play.. and again
Tear tear whine more |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:03:00 -
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So just for the record, kingchip randchip / OP was sitting still so the wrecking shot hit him for full damage? Or was it some kind of "magic" omni thing that always hits for full effect?
And what has DeLindsay post today with anything at all in this thread?
German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:17:00 -
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I remember getting wrecking hit from minmatar plex rats while doing 6km/s in malediction (was quite target painter spam though), so Id say you dont have to be sitting still to get hit by "wrecking" shot.
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l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
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Posted - 2013.05.20 19:03:00 -
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But will it still apply full damage?
And i am not talking about turrets in general, i am talking about this specific attack from this specific rat.
German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
OMGxxxOMG
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.20 23:11:00 -
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Did 2 10/10 angels today in a legion. No problem whatsoever. You probably didnt keep moving. |
Devon Anzomi
Sarcos Fleet Caldari Services Corporation
Beacon Light Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.20 23:35:00 -
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You got antimatter channelerd |
Cage Man
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Posted - 2013.05.21 00:34:00 -
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Is it possible you just happened to be TP'd more than usual? As said above, a DC2 while it only helps your shields slightly it will save you at times like this with its small armor and big structure buffer it provides. Any site I run in my tengu where my shields drop occasionally below 50% I will replace the 4th BCU with a DC2 because you never know when you going to make a small mistake that will cost you. But I am a care bear 
Oh PLEASE!!! CCP Fozzie Can I haz a Navy moa....... |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
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Posted - 2013.05.21 02:06:00 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:So just for the record, kingchip randchip / OP was sitting still so the wrecking shot hit him for full damage? Or was it some kind of "magic" omni thing that always hits for full effect?
And what has DeLindsay post today with anything at all in this thread?
The damage from a turret hit doesn't care about tracking, tracking affects the probability of a regular hit. Wrecking hits are not normal hits, so when you AB well beyond the tracking speed you should eventually only see misses interspersed with infrequent wrecking hits.
Its a 1 in 100 chance of receiving a wrecker from a player, so I presume the OP has done the encounter enough times to have sampled the 80+ shots that give the NPC a good cumulative chance of shooting a wrecker. |
kingchip randchip
Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2013.05.21 02:40:00 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:So just for the record, kingchip randchip / OP was sitting still so the wrecking shot hit him for full damage? Or was it some kind of "magic" omni thing that always hits for full effect?
And what has DeLindsay post today with anything at all in this thread?
He has insane tracking.. althowe i don't believe he has a hi chance to do a "wrecking" shot...it does triple his damage.. If you cant tank a 37k omni shot then he will blap you...
and no i was burning at 600 m/s with a deadspace tengu and a skirmish boost to lower sig radius....
So don't think it wont happen if you keep transversal |
kingchip randchip
Shadows Of The Requiem
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Posted - 2013.05.21 02:45:00 -
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Gary Bell wrote:DeLindsay wrote:Quote:Also Perfect Off grid siege boosts... I can't wait for all the Forum screaming when CCP removes this exploit. Yeah yeah, it's not really an exploit because CCP didn't make the mechanic so it HAD to be on-grid, but they are soon. It's gonna be ultra satisfying to know fewer and fewer players will be able to multi-box SOLO the MMORPG that is Eve Online in their stupidly expensive Deadspace fit ships. That and the incoming nerf to kick T3 out of DeD 3/4's will be so much the better. To the OP, I know your post wasn't a crying flame of CCP's mechanics and you probably have more than enough ISK to replace your ship so my topic wasn't slated directly at you. There are however far too many players who fit such ships and cry and complain when anything happens to said ships like it's CCP's sole responsibility to protect them from all harm while they Solo Eve, lol. m They ay very well change this one day.. But guess what it isnt gonna be anytime soon because they are going to have to completely rework the bonus system as anything else will fully break the rorquel.. Soo whine more off grid booster tears whine And for the record.. Eve is a sandbox.. They let you play it how you want.. they will never change a mechanic that stops you from solo play.. and again Tear tear whine more
no one is whining i was just trying to figure out how this mechanic worked lol... |
M'iranna
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.21 15:31:00 -
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DeLindsay wrote:Quote:Also Perfect Off grid siege boosts... I can't wait for all the Forum screaming when CCP removes this exploit. Yeah yeah, it's not really an exploit because CCP didn't make the mechanic so it HAD to be on-grid, but they are soon. It's gonna be ultra satisfying to know fewer and fewer players will be able to multi-box SOLO the MMORPG that is Eve Online in their stupidly expensive Deadspace fit ships. That and the incoming nerf to kick T3 out of DeD 3/4's will be so much the better. To the OP, I know your post wasn't a crying flame of CCP's mechanics and you probably have more than enough ISK to replace your ship so my topic wasn't slated directly at you. There are however far too many players who fit such ships and cry and complain when anything happens to said ships like it's CCP's sole responsibility to protect them from all harm while they Solo Eve, lol.
The less single player content Eve will have the more the player base will shrink. Just tell me why you want Eve to die? Because that will be the result.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2013.05.21 16:12:00 -
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kingchip randchip wrote:althowe i don't believe he has a hi chance to do a "wrecking" shot...
Its not npc specific - every weapon considered turret has this chance.
M'iranna wrote:The less single player content Eve will have the more the player base will shrink. Just tell me why you want Eve to die? Because that will be the result.
If the game forces you to use x number of alts to stay competitive EVEN IN 1V1S, then so be it. CCP has a perfect chance to make ganglinks something useful, connected to battlefield and something that actually needs player attention, not just alt slot you need, because everyone has one. I hoped people got over "bring your own xy" with falcon, but apparently not.
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seth Hendar
I love you miners
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:21:00 -
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you might want to petition it.
a couple month ago, we were running lotta missions in our lowsec and we lost 2 strategic in a very similar way (a tengu and a legion)
both were perfectly proven fits and they were running the mission with me and a couple others.
in each case, while they were OK and tanking easy they just poped, out of the blue (like they are at 99 to 100% of shield or armor, and the second later => pod + wreck)
now, one would say that they just took insane alpha, but here is the trick:
this happen in lowsec lvl4, with missions almost completed, i don't remember the details for the tengu, but the legion was killed (alphaed) by an ELITE FRIGATE (this was what remained on field, a couple elite frig and a few cruisers, clearly not enought to kill even a regular T2 BC, so a strat....), log comfirmed that.
obviously, in both case, petition were made and CCP refunded the losses, and after discussion with GM, he stated that strat had bugs in those two cases, so maybe you experienced the same...
so petition it, this way CCP will be able to check if something weird happened
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Ikars
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.22 23:08:00 -
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Gratz You got ganked by rat
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