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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.10.24 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Severe McCald
Originally by: Rodj Blake
If we're going to speculate about this...
If the French hadn't given aid to the Americans, the modern US would have been a mixture of French and British colonies at the start of World War II.
As such, they would have entered World War II approximately two years earlier than the real, historical USA.
Not sure about that. If the the Germans had won the American War of Independence (German King, using German Mercenaries to fight British settlers), then it is likely that the whole of North America would have been taken and an attack on France might have followed (the English were concerned about the way the French revolution had gone and worried about it spreading here).
Given the historical situation, France might have become a German province much, much earlier (Englands German King and German mercenaries again) .
Sev
You're confusing ancestry with allegiance.
At the start of WWI, Britain was ruled by the house of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, a family with a fair bit of German blood in it, to say the least. By your reckoning, it would have been over and done with by the time the US entered the war as Britain's "German" king would have sided with Kaiser Wilhelm.
I do not recall this happening.
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2005.10.24 14:02:00 -
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By WWI, the UK monarch was a vestigial creature, the rubber stamp of a constitutional monarchy.
George III was only as ruled by Parliament as he was because of his illness.
It is rumoured that Edward the VIII would have sided with Germany in WWII, given the choice . Maybe he also confused ancestry with allegiance .
Sev
We are what we repeatedly do - Aristotle. That has got to be a worry.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.10.24 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 24/10/2005 15:27:46 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 24/10/2005 15:24:57
Originally by: Severe McCald
George III was only as ruled by Parliament as he was because of his illness.
Which neutralises your own point about the the American Revolution being fought between British colonists and a load of Germans.
And Edward VIII's sympathies towards the National Socialists are thought to at least partly been the result of his American wife's influence over him.
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2005.10.24 17:29:00 -
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No it doesn't. "As ruled by Parliament as he was", does not indicate vestigiality, merely an encroachment. It is well known that George III was deeply upset about losing the colonies and, had he been of sound mind, might have fought harder to retain them.
Whether or not Mrs Simpson was a right wing influence on a man born to be King in a world of deference, is an interesting question, but not one I have any interest in debating.
Sev
We are what we repeatedly do - Aristotle. That has got to be a worry.
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Imaran

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Posted - 2005.10.24 17:43:00 -
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Please review the Forum Rules. No politics are permitted on these forums...
*stuffs this thread into a small box and clicks on the padlock of d00m*
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