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Agent Shield
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Posted - 2003.08.03 20:28:00 -
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1) You can take 31 cans and go out a few km's from the station, then drop them to form the initials of your name or corp. Saw this near a station yesterday where some fool wrote his name in the air. Skywriter?
2) Now you can place secure cans all over the entrance to a station to clutter it all up.
3) Now you can place cans near a station filled with loot, and NOT have to pay to have your items delivered using the courier missions. Anyone with the password, you give to, can now haul for you for FREE!
4) You can place a can anywhere in space and know that nobody is going to blow it up, so it is safe for you to return to at a later date. Who cares that it clutters up Eve space, you have your secure can and somehow need to drop these in space.
I suppose I think the secure cans are stupid, but that's just me.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.03 20:36:00 -
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Secure Cargo Containers = INSANELY BAD IDEA
Server reset should remove them, ATLEAST. ------
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.08.03 20:47:00 -
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hmmmmm sounds to me like you have a problem with secure cans being "secure". :/
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Agent Shield
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Posted - 2003.08.03 21:06:00 -
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I don't have a problem with a secure can being secured, if someone really feels they need to have them.
What I have a problem with is players leaving them in Eve space cluttering up the environment.
And don't even get me started about the 'skywriter' who thinks cluttering up the sky with 31 large secure cans is something that just has to be done.
Now everyone can set cans out anywhere in eve, clutter space, and cause lag, because someone feels that have to have these cans.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.08.03 21:14:00 -
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I need a ship made of the same material as secure containers :P --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.03 21:15:00 -
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Solution to sky writers is simple - use mwd to bash them about.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Amarit Ska
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Posted - 2003.08.03 21:44:00 -
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So secure containers are now 'corp hangers in space'? Cool
I can't find a station with an office near any of the interesting locations, seems that a secure tub is the answer to our corps problem.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.08.03 22:40:00 -
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I think they should just have a timer, say 1 week. When you open the can it should tell you how much time is left, right underneath the capacity bar, there can be a timer bar.
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Jojin
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Posted - 2003.08.03 22:48:00 -
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Perhaps an alternative would be to have the power supply run down after three (3) or four (4) days. With a dead power supply the container could be opened by anyone and picked up by anyone for their own use.
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Aleister Crowley
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Posted - 2003.08.03 22:54:00 -
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No need to get that drastic. I would say the ones around permanent areas should probably be "swept" every couple days or so depending on the quantity and the problem it becomes.
But having caches of ammo etc.. is very important for some people who have corp mates that play at different hours of the day.
For instance one of indy drivers comes and cleans out cans and restocks them with ammo, for some our cruiser/BS pilots that log on and off in space. Kind of like having a station without having one. 'Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law' |

Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.04 00:28:00 -
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It's not that they're secure (though I still think you should be able to blow them up) it's that they NEVER GO AWAY. They are all over the place, they're literally littering the universe. People are very much abusing them, it's lame, change them, please. ------
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Tassadar Beta
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Posted - 2003.08.04 00:48:00 -
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They should stay as they are, they are great help to our corporation. Dont change them because a few ppl abuse them or dont like them.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.04 01:25:00 -
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Quote: They should stay as they are, they are great help to our corporation. Dont change them because a few ppl abuse them or dont like them.
PEOPLE ABUSE THEM. ------
ROBBLE ROBBLE |

Ehxo
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Posted - 2003.08.04 01:39:00 -
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I have to agree with the original poster. CCP really needs to think of all the possible impacts new implementation like this would do before they implement them. Anyone that has a brain would have known this would happen if the cans couldn't be blown up or never timed out.
Even if the cans cost a lot more than regular containers, they should still have a timeout counter so that eventually they could be blown up and looted.
I really don't like the idea of having more lag because some feel like storing ammo in space, even if the idea sounds nice at the same time. People writing things in space with cans is plain stupid and THAT has to be prevented somehow. Maybe create a new temp counter so that you can only jettisson secure cans every 15 minutes and no less? I don't know, but I agree that something has to be done.
The point is that you CAN'T trust people to act decent with something like that. There's always gonna be idiots who think they are cooler than everybody else and won't listen to morale. Because of them, YES the rest has to unfortunately pay and CCP needs to force a hardcoded rule like the ones suggested above.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.08.04 02:17:00 -
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CCP doesn't think at all. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Zeidrich
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Posted - 2003.08.04 02:17:00 -
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The funniest thing is this,
The reason these canisters were put into place in the first place was so that people could mine, without having to worry about ore thieves.
But that's not even on the list, and I've not run across anyone mining into a secure container because they're so damn small.
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Setec
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Posted - 2003.08.04 02:27:00 -
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People are very badly exploiting secure cargo containers in many ways. They did it to protect ore from ore thieves, which is a valid reason, but they didn't put enough thought into preventing unwanted applications of the containers. ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |

Mallus Kulov
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Posted - 2003.08.04 02:29:00 -
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They are very effective for their purpose. Wonderful usage for temp depots for both hunts and harvesting ore. However; the abuse noted above should mandate a review in their implementation. Possibly Concord fines for littering the space ways if not relocated in some set timeframe...though too bad this may establish green peace loonies in the space lanes.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.04 03:35:00 -
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If secure cargo container tech is so cheap that they can produce endless amounts of containers, I want to but it for my ship. Would be cute being indestructible
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