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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.10.21 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Skape Gote
Originally by: ****take
Originally by: Tad Ghostal Semi respect to you guys for a good fight in Nalvula just now, although jumping into you (as always) with your drones out, and you using 2 noobcorp alts to screw up overview and get sentries to kill them was just weak tbfh. gf though
So let me get this right:
(1) You are whining about people using drones, I'm betting they were mostly Gallente ships where one of the major selling points of said ships ARE DRONES!!!!
(2) You are whine about "jumping in" to somewhere THAT NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO JUMP INTO!!!!
You talk about weak, why did you start this whine post? If you are so uber why feel the need to make a "LOOK AT ME,I'M UBER AND NBSI/PA/FE ARE NOOBS AND THEY USED GAME MECHAINCS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE" kinda whiny sub-par PvP corp kinda post?
Are you that frustrated already?
The only thing that frustrates me about your members are the ones that seem to be auditioning for Burn Eden. The rest seem to be doing the honourable thing and dying alot. Truth is around Jita / Taisy you are getting a spanking so STFU.
Once again, another 5 post/reply stating "WE ARE UBER AND YOU SUCK, WE NEVER LOSE, YOU NEVER WIN" (say in a robotic tone of voice).
Please
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.10.21 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: ****take
Originally by: Skape Gote
Originally by: ****take
Originally by: Tad Ghostal Semi respect to you guys for a good fight in Nalvula just now, although jumping into you (as always) with your drones out, and you using 2 noobcorp alts to screw up overview and get sentries to kill them was just weak tbfh. gf though
So let me get this right:
(1) You are whining about people using drones, I'm betting they were mostly Gallente ships where one of the major selling points of said ships ARE DRONES!!!!
(2) You are whine about "jumping in" to somewhere THAT NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO JUMP INTO!!!!
You talk about weak, why did you start this whine post? If you are so uber why feel the need to make a "LOOK AT ME,I'M UBER AND NBSI/PA/FE ARE NOOBS AND THEY USED GAME MECHAINCS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE" kinda whiny sub-par PvP corp kinda post?
Are you that frustrated already?
The only thing that frustrates me about your members are the ones that seem to be auditioning for Burn Eden. The rest seem to be doing the honourable thing and dying alot. Truth is around Jita / Taisy you are getting a spanking so STFU.
Once again, another 5 post/reply stating "WE ARE UBER AND YOU SUCK, WE NEVER LOSE, YOU NEVER WIN" (say in a robotic tone of voice).
Please
You get used to it after awhile, infact it makes killing them much more enjoyable.
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2005.10.21 09:08:00 -
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Can someone explain me why the alliances are fighting in over populated systems, like Jita and Rens ????
I see everybdy always complaining (with reason)about lag and that is impossible to fight with big fleets ... and then just choose to fight in the most populated systems in empire ???? 
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.10.21 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: ****take
Originally by: Skape Gote
Originally by: ****take
Originally by: Tad Ghostal Semi respect to you guys for a good fight in Nalvula just now, although jumping into you (as always) with your drones out, and you using 2 noobcorp alts to screw up overview and get sentries to kill them was just weak tbfh. gf though
So let me get this right:
(1) You are whining about people using drones, I'm betting they were mostly Gallente ships where one of the major selling points of said ships ARE DRONES!!!!
(2) You are whine about "jumping in" to somewhere THAT NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO JUMP INTO!!!!
You talk about weak, why did you start this whine post? If you are so uber why feel the need to make a "LOOK AT ME,I'M UBER AND NBSI/PA/FE ARE NOOBS AND THEY USED GAME MECHAINCS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE" kinda whiny sub-par PvP corp kinda post?
Are you that frustrated already?
The only thing that frustrates me about your members are the ones that seem to be auditioning for Burn Eden. The rest seem to be doing the honourable thing and dying alot. Truth is around Jita / Taisy you are getting a spanking so STFU.
Once again, another 5 post/reply stating "WE ARE UBER AND YOU SUCK, WE NEVER LOSE, YOU NEVER WIN" (say in a robotic tone of voice).
Please
dude calm down.. i dont think he meant NBSI.. since u guys are stationed away from most of the fighting anyway.. tbh i'm looking forward to seeing NBSI joining in ur combined war effort properly.. u guys specialise in friggie combat.. and i'm somewhat rusty since i have been doing BS combat mostly for like the last 6 mths..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

The Clash
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Posted - 2005.10.21 09:17:00 -
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CCP should have sold a : 1) Calculator 2) Valium- descript. 3) anti-stres doll
with the cd-box and forums would be a lot easier to mod  _________________
i suck
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Naphtalia
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Posted - 2005.10.21 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck Can someone explain me why the alliances are fighting in over populated systems, like Jita and Rens ????
This is very simple to answer. If both sides would have wanted a 40v40 (or 200v200) longrange fleet-slug-match, I am sure we could arrange it somewhere in a galaxy far far away and we could 'get it on' (c) MTV.
However we are interested in killing eachother alliances. Alliance die foremostly due to internal whining "Buhuhuu my fleet tempest got ganked while I was doing a mission in Niyabainen... why is there noone to protect me"
None of the fighting alliances will die because we face their pvp'ers in pvpships and rack up kills and losses (while having a bloody good time)... but when people take a break from pvp and go mining or running a mission and find they don't have the freedom anymore to do so. Or when they find out they cant move a replacement ship from Jita or Ours they get ****ed and start whining, and might even leave said corp. Trading corps or Mission heavy corps that are part of any of the warring factions that can't do their thing anymore in niya/rens will consider Jumping ship.
An alliance dropping members is a quick way to say: "X alliance is DEAD" word of "X alliance is DEAD" on the forums combined with "OMG why is noone fighting" in alliance chat is a quick way to push doubting CEO's to push the leave alliance button.
MLM has seen ennough alliances die to know how this works :)
Anyways, to wrap this up. Putting presure on the places where alliance members of either sides 'chil out, recuperate, make isk, feel safe' is a very good strategy, and will due to cause and effect increase the Exodus from the alliances and lead to victory and loss.
Hope this clears things up :)
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MilkMonkeyMan
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Posted - 2005.10.21 14:19:00 -
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whats funny dude, is that i ahve never been in any allaince full stop, sincer my corp does not endorse alliances
And as for getting ganked?
awww ur almost cute wid dat ittle biddy comeback
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.21 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: MilkMonkeyMan whats funny dude, is that i ahve never been in any allaince full stop, sincer my corp does not endorse alliances
And as for getting ganked?
awww ur almost cute wid dat ittle biddy comeback
then go back to your lvl4's and stop pestering us with your nonsense
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.10.21 14:32:00 -
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come on guys dont smack is pointless. The war has been very fun. And my eksperience has been that after a fight with 5 local is always polite and respectfull..
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Aegis Osiris
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Posted - 2005.10.21 14:43:00 -
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Hast, stop lettin' the alt egg u on. You should know better by now: Don't Feed the Trolls.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.21 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Aegis Osiris Hast, stop lettin' the alt egg u on. You should know better by now: Don't Feed the Trolls.
but its fun 
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MilkMonkeyMan
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Posted - 2005.10.21 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Aegis Osiris Hast, stop lettin' the alt egg u on. You should know better by now: Don't Feed the Trolls.
but its fun 
he cant help it, its his ego
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.21 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: MilkMonkeyMan
Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Aegis Osiris Hast, stop lettin' the alt egg u on. You should know better by now: Don't Feed the Trolls.
but its fun 
he cant help it, its his ego
you know that every time you make a post about me, my ego grows?
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MilkMonkeyMan
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Posted - 2005.10.21 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: MilkMonkeyMan
Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Aegis Osiris Hast, stop lettin' the alt egg u on. You should know better by now: Don't Feed the Trolls.
but its fun 
he cant help it, its his ego
you know that every time you make a post about me, my ego grows?
I know, can i touch?
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musashi myomoto
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Posted - 2005.10.21 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mortuus Hmm...if we are having problems it might be because we can't get a fight with fewer than 3:1 odds against us. At least thats my experience around Caldari space.
Anyway, those that I do get in that are fewer and closer to fights instead of ganks on both sides are great fun.
Originally by: Sun Tsu Good armies, like water, flow down hill.
The opinions expressed here are mine. I don't make policy for my corp or aliance.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.21 15:15:00 -
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\o/ posting in a lung thread.
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Critta
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Posted - 2005.10.21 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck Can someone explain me why the alliances are fighting in over populated systems, like Jita and Rens ????
I see everybdy always complaining (with reason)about lag and that is impossible to fight with big fleets ... and then just choose to fight in the most populated systems in empire ???? 
Because that's where the targets are... simple as that. We simply go to the places where we find the most targets.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.10.21 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: MilkMonkeyMan Why is it everytime [5] lose a fight, u run to the froums and try and start a smack war agaisnt those who beat u and make it look like there fault, accept ur lossess and move on.
Like RA for instance
They outsmarted u and bascially messed up ur occupation of curse, then u run to the froums, blame ccp for pos wars, blame red alliance for not fighting ur style and the carry on crying about how u would win if RA didnt have POS's all over.
And yes i am posting with my alt because i don't want this on my corp since this is my view, but i seriously think u should stop *****ing and just egt on with it, ur there saying *everyone war dec us, we will make it mutual, we dont care* but when u lose a fight u run to this froum and start a smack war against those who beat u? who cares what tactics they use.
Accept ur lossess and move on
Reading your post, i can see explain easily why you have so much trouble understanding other players..
It is as simple as you believe everyone cares about winning or losing.. you seem to miss the fact that ppl play games for fun..
You say RA outsmarted [5].. nice statement.. how?? by anchoring more pos's? man clicking those little buttons must be really difficult for u.. i dont think many would agree with you that anchoring POS's qualifies as "outsmarting"
Another point to make about your opinions is that they are largely based on inexperience at pvp.. if we got upset about loses.. we wouldnt be jumping in to hostiles already formed on gate.. i cant remember the last hostiles that jumped into a fleet i was in.. RA/RAT, Imp didnt, PA/NBSI/F-E didnt/havent.. (granted it is not applicable to friggies so nbsi are kinna excluded)
tbh i think u just listen to too much forum propaganda..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Zigadenus
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Posted - 2005.10.21 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: Zigadenus on 21/10/2005 19:44:38
Originally by: Naphtalia
Originally by: DeadDuck However we are interested in killing eachother alliances. Alliance die foremostly due to internal whining "Buhuhuu my fleet tempest got ganked while I was doing a mission in Niyabainen... why is there noone to protect me"
None of the fighting alliances will die because we face their pvp'ers in pvpships and rack up kills and losses (while having a bloody good time)... but when people take a break from pvp and go mining or running a mission and find they don't have the freedom anymore to do so. Or when they find out they cant move a replacement ship from Jita or Ours they get ****ed and start whining, and might even leave said corp. Trading corps or Mission heavy corps that are part of any of the warring factions that can't do their thing anymore in niya/rens will consider Jumping ship.
An alliance dropping members is a quick way to say: "X alliance is DEAD" word of "X alliance is DEAD" on the forums combined with "OMG why is noone fighting" in alliance chat is a quick way to push doubting CEO's to push the leave alliance button.
Anyways, to wrap this up. Putting presure on the places where alliance members of either sides 'chil out, recuperate, make isk, feel safe' is a very good strategy, and will due to cause and effect increase the Exodus from the alliances and lead to victory and loss.
Advanced Course: How To Kill an Alliance
Nice post, Naph.
EDIT: Oh yeah, great fight in Nalvula. Let's have more. Props to -V-, always a pleasure to fly with you guys.
________________________________________________ Kyle > Why do you have to ask me all these complicated questions? Zerodragon > Dude, IĈm trying to save your setup from complete suckage.
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.21 20:25:00 -
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if your happy and u know it clap ur hands
if your happy and u know it clap ur hands
if your happy and u know it and u really wanna show it if ur happy and u know it clap ur hands
Such is Life
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.10.21 20:29:00 -
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Mildly funny once j0rz
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Bruchpilot
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Posted - 2005.10.21 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: j0rz if your happy and u know it clap ur hands
if your happy and u know it clap ur hands
if your happy and u know it and u really wanna show it if ur happy and u know it clap ur hands
\o/
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.21 23:16:00 -
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I felt like posting and this thread looked good
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Randorial
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Posted - 2005.10.22 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Quote: Judging by the [5]'s killboard, which I deem the most accurate of em all, [5] won the fight in Nalvula.
That m8 is wrong if you wanna look at an acurate killboard goto the NBSI killboard..
Each day im checking 5 V killboard to keep NBSI acurate. and im gonna start checking SA killboard also. I dont know whats going on maybe becuyase 5 has changed there killboard but they post there kills but like 50% of there losses they dont post..
Do SAS never post losses?
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:34:00 -
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No sas doesn't post losses. We post very few kills either. We usually post them to spread around setups. It's not crusial for us to post them.
But I could probobly count on two hands our losses. I can to a sertain extent understand the resentment to us not posting. But we haven't posted 100% kills/losses since this summer. It's a problem that have accured as eve-kills have gone down. And many diffrent moves. We currently have 2 we could post on. And working on a third one. But like I said. It's not a cruisial part of our existance and it will not deside this war in either way. It only fuels smacks on this board and in no way is it a viable massurement of how the war is going. Also. SAS can work like this for a long long time. So don't get ahead of yourself.
But I got to be honnest. Codus to 6 for putting them on us. We're sertainly not used to that. We paid some kills back though. However I'm not going into a ****ing contest on who killed most. I think it's around equal tbh. (speaking of sas alone now)
5 have shown that they are in many ways very flexible. And sertainly know what their doing. That being said. They are not unbeatable. And they do make misstakes. But again their gang numbers often hides their weakness. Don't misstake this as me *****ing over being out blobbed. If we are out blobbed we just have to deal whit it. Being out blobbed doesn't mean you can't get a few kills on them. But since they fight so damn tight it's not very easy to get off free kills on their blobs. But 5 know we can put up a show. Welcome to empire guys. You think this one will be a walk in the park. You better think again. See you on the field and again respect for good tactics.
SoonÖ
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