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Rrroot
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Posted - 2005.10.22 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Rrroot on 22/10/2005 18:17:12
Post in Corperation Forums
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Mutsje
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Posted - 2005.10.22 18:31:00 -
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Forums moderator has just closed the linked thread.
To prevent prove to be posted. Please contact Xirtam asap to attain proper prove.
Exploit has been documented on ingame fraps.
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Rrroot
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Posted - 2005.10.22 18:50:00 -
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Post has been removed by forums administrator.
Post has been send via petition again.
Anybody interested in the post can contact Imperium / VC / UnA. They'll be happy to relay the original message to you. It DOES NOT contain actual information on how to exploit the system. It does contain information on what happened and it should contain enough information for GAME MASTERS and Game Developers to actively take steps in preventing this.
Besides forums administrators cleaning the forums of actual ingame cheating going on.
Sorry to be so BLUNT, but it seems to be the only way to get the message acros..
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.22 18:57:00 -
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Price of 3 large Pos = hundreds of millions
Price of lots of ships + mods = millions
Imp whining coz they got pwned again = Priceless
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:03:00 -
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You didn't realise that we "beat" your sovereignty claim by anchoring more pos than you pre-dt then, no?
Gosh, it must suck to realise that we're aware of exactly the exploit you were trying to take advantage of, AFTER you've spent so much time and money trying to take advantage of.
Enjoy the pod ride home.
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:09:00 -
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Dianobolic, you are so full of crap its not even funny. The fraps WILL PROVE OUR CLAIM BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT.
IM sure that when all the facts clear someones in MAJOR CRAP.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:15:00 -
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 Originally by: XirtamVotf
Dianobolic, you are so full of crap its not even funny. The fraps WILL PROVE OUR CLAIM BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT.
IM sure that when all the facts clear someones in MAJOR CRAP.
Can you release your ts please too coz that was hilarious at the time.
Cheers,
dbp
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:26:00 -
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Xirt, you guys came to Delve and put up more pos than we had. Not only did we catch you at it, we put up more pos than you had (to add to our existing pos) that gave us sovereignty. DT hit and you were without sovereignty. Since then we've destroyed 2 of the large pos u put down and are in the process of taking down your 3rd, and final, pos.
Since then we've destroyed reinforcements AND, at the time, we destroyed your fuel cans and fuel haulers.
You tried to sit within the sphere of the bubble, even though it wasn't online (just anchored) and our guys annilhated you for your trouble.
You did this at 0800 gmt. The time is now 1924 - your last pos is about to die. Even if the gm's reimburse you (good luck with that) you came, you failed, hell, I even hope they reimburse you, so we can spank you all over again.
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Top Hat
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
Dianobolic, you are so full of crap its not even funny. The fraps WILL PROVE OUR CLAIM BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT.
IM sure that when all the facts clear someones in MAJOR CRAP.
Translated - Whaaaaaaaaaa, whaaaaaa, boo hooo, whaaaaa.
In truth, us BoBers have to use dirty h4xXn 'sploitz, we cant get a kill fairly and have to use our GM powers in order to destroy the mighty IMP, because theyre just too damn good for us.
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Trakh Shardan
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:27:00 -
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damn this is funny **** man IMP just face it....
U trying to copy RED alliance has failed
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Citizen Zero
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:28:00 -
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Yes BoB had the most stations online at the server reboot time. The larger question is why.
There were some fairly egregious game mechanic "malfunctions" that allowed for some imbalanced fleet engagements.
Imperium was attempting to take soveriegnty of the system utilizing valid game mechanics. IE putting up enough stations to get a system majority and thereby gaining control of the system after the server reboot.
At no time did IMP engage in any exploit behavior. IMP lost a chunk of ships at one of OUR stations while INSIDE the POS bubble and was unable to lock targets or respond. We were also unable to eject people from teh bubble. Again not stating WHY the malfunction happened or HOW only that it did and it should not have.
Regardless of the cause of the "Malfunction", the situation needs to be investigated. At the time of the event all of our petitions were closed immediately without any sort of response other than to report it in the "file and forget it" category of "other". To date we still have not recieved a response.
BoB did muster a good response to our actions and had the sistuation occured without the "Malfunctions" there very likely would have been a different outcome.
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Top Hat
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Citizen Zero
Yes BoB had the most stations online at the server reboot time. The larger question is why.
Ooo, ooooo, I can answer this one, pick me pick me!!
Aaah screw it I aint gonna wait for you to pick me Im gonna tell ya anyway.
This is how the story goes..
..once upon a time there was a buncha hillbillies that banded together and they called themselves IMP, they thought they were badass n stuff. Then came along the evil BoB and totally omgwtfpwned them in Outer Ring.
Some time later IMP, despite being slapped silly, decided they can still beat BoB using different tactics, those tactics being the all new PoS war. IMP began their deployment, but the big bad BoB came along and showed them that infact IMP really are crud and cant win using any tactic whatsoever.
So the answer to your question Mr Zero is, BoB are better than IMP and thats why we managed to get more PoS' up than you.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:39:00 -
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OK, as a player; yes, I agree, any bug should be fully investigated and dealt with and, if a fault is found, should be fixed for the gaming experience of all concerned. That goes without saying.
That being said, you came to Delve, you hodgepodged in to the system, you didn't secure your area of ops despite us being operational and you let us gather our fleet and break your ops.
You may well believe the outcome should of been different but, with that modus operandi, I would wholeheartedly disagree with you. It was badly organised and badly run, even if, as you claim, the game wasn't working properly - even if it was - I'd wager that the outcome, at this time, would be the same.
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:45:00 -
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So I assume that BOB is denying at this point that YOU were INSIDE the bubble shooting us and we COULDNT shoot back?
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CLEISTHENES2
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:46:00 -
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Listen..I was there with 8 other pilots engaging your so called POS war tactics...You came and started anchoring 3 pos's and what you failed to realise is you only managed to fuelly fuel the 1st pos after wich 4 inties destroyed 2 of your fuelling haulers in the midst of your 37 man fleet. The 2nd hauler managed to dump just enough fuel to get the 2nd POS online. But what you are forgetting is that due to the lack of fuel and haulers, you 3rd POS was anchored but not onlined to claim soverignity. So you only had 2 POS's onlined where as we had 3 onlined before DT...which means you by no way had rights to any claim.
I do not see any exploit here and these are the facts. You came, you saw, and we mopped you out...ty for the visit though. 
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CLEISTHENES2
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
So I assume that BOB is denying at this point that YOU were INSIDE the bubble shooting us and we COULDNT shoot back?
Read your 1st post for more info on what actually happened, that was moderated.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.22 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
So I assume that BOB is denying at this point that YOU were INSIDE the bubble shooting us and we COULDNT shoot back?
Xirt, how could our pilots be inside YOUR bubble, and able to lock and fire, but your pilots, inside the same bubble, were prevented from doing exactly the same thing?
I mean, hell, if that was the case, sure, there is a bug somewhere, it just seems hell unlikely that it would ONLY apply to you, know what I mean?
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.10.22 20:16:00 -
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Edited by: XirtamVotf on 22/10/2005 20:16:54
Dianobolic I wont argue with you, I do HOPE that you apoligise publicly so avidly as the rest of your alliance disclaims these facts.
I think the EVE community knows me well enough, that I would NEVER post without proof (AKA FRAPS).
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Top Hat
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Posted - 2005.10.22 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
Edited by: XirtamVotf on 22/10/2005 20:16:54
Dianobolic I wont argue with you, I do HOPE that you apoligise publicly so avidly as the rest of your alliance disclaims these facts.
I think the EVE community knows me well enough, that I would NEVER post without proof (AKA FRAPS).
Appolagise for what exactly? That we killed you?
Yeah sorry about that...
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.22 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
Edited by: XirtamVotf on 22/10/2005 20:16:54
Dianobolic I wont argue with you, I do HOPE that you apoligise publicly so avidly as the rest of your alliance disclaims these facts.
I think the EVE community knows me well enough, that I would NEVER post without proof (AKA FRAPS).
Actually, Xirt, I don't think they do know you that well. I also know that the GM's never accept Fraps as proof. However, I know you, I'd be willing to take you at your word - however, as with you, I'm still quite confused as to exactly how this "bug" only affected you and your pilots, yet us bob'ers were completely unaffected.
It just doesn't seem to add up. But, hey, good luck with your petitions, to be honest, as I said in my first post, if they do give you your ships back I look forward to blowing them out of space once again.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:08:00 -
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Oh, and just as a humouros sidenote - those of you in this thread that are complaining of POS being "broken" (if indeed they were), please speak to the retards that were in your corporations that were crowing over the issues that [5] had with pos (which were 100% PROVEN to be broken and not working properly) and feed them a piece of humble pie.
kthx.
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:15:00 -
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Dianobolic here is just a taste of proof
[ 2005.10.22 09:35:39 ] Shrike > all you had to do, was to go outside
and protect
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:22:00 -
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*sigh*
Xirt, 2 things:
1 - partial chat logs = lose.
2 - Even taken at face value, it kinda makes sense, no? Protect your investment?
You and your guys came to Delve to take advantage of a well documented, but hitherto un actioned on, EXPLOIT.
You failed.
You're gonna have to do alot better than that to get any sympathy or understanding from me, I'm afraid.
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:24:00 -
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Heh you think im gonna put evrything on the table right here LOL , like i said someones going bye bye
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
Dianobolic here is just a taste of proof
[ 2005.10.22 09:35:39 ] Shrike > all you had to do, was to go outside
and protect
Heh.
That's your typical Xirtam proof for you.
I suggest you stop accusing people of exploiting Xirtam. You seem to resort to that way to easily, and always have.
That remark by shrike is easily explained. But I assume that that is effort not worth spending on you at this point, it never was possible to argue with your 'intel'.
Wait and see. If there was a bug at play I'm sure it'll be made clear from the petitions. In no way would it be predictable anyway since we're hardly going around looking for bugs to do with the mechanics of killing large pos towers on a daily basis so we can exploit them.
So, please refrain from shouting ill informed abuse at us here untill you've got a basis for doing so. And it better be something a little more then a random line of conversation from local, capiche ?
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:27:00 -
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It does prove we were INSIDE and being killed
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:43:00 -
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"Heh you think im gonna put evrything on the table right here"
Why not? what could possibly happen if you actually make clear, well spelt out case instead of some vague accusations.. that makes it undesirable to do?
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
It does prove we were INSIDE and being killed
I wasn't there, havent seen nor heard of any of you being killed inside a bubble, only of those left outside and killed there.
But like josephine says, show us what you mean instead of being vague and giving us pieces of text supposedly proving whatever it is you are telling us is an exploit being used.
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Top Hat
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
It does prove we were INSIDE and being killed
Are you stupid or you just doing it on purpose?
That "proof" that is just one single line of a chatlog, clearly states that in order to protect your PoS you have to be outside of it, which, is true, you do have to be.
It doesnt prove that you were being killed whilst inside an active online bubble at all.
Dumbass.
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.10.22 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: thebold on 22/10/2005 22:04:58
common bob let him get his fraps first
xirt post the fraps.. sure gm's wont see it as proof but it will be enough to silence bob's flames :/
wheres the fraps!
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