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KIAEddZ	Posted - 2005.10.23 21:51:00 - [1] Upon war deccing of PA, we have been set to -10 by FE and NBSI, despite our wishes to not have our conflict with the PA effcts those relationships. So, with this in mind, we will be joining one of the entities of that are currently at empire war with these 3 Alliances. The duration of our membership of the V alliance, is for the duration of our period of damage infliction upon the PA. It will be as usual an honour to fly by the side of a good set of guys, and V most certainly are that, and an honour to fight the likes of FE and NBSI, another good set of guys. Again do not take our appreciation of our Marks as weakness, NBSI and FE will be treated with the same ferocity of attention, as the PA will be. It was their choice after all to set us to -10. I am not interested in a flame war with any of the partys. No KIA member will post on this post, or entertain any arguments of petty discussions about our motivations. If any serious questions arise, then feel free to eve mail me, for discussion or resolution. I wil post here again only If i see a real need to do so. We will let our guns do the talking. See you in space. www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
Drilla	Posted - 2005.10.23 21:53:00 - [2] Excellent Eddz - hope we end up in the same gang one of these days Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Hast	Posted - 2005.10.23 21:53:00 - [3] good luck gents, hopefully I will have the honour of flying with you
insuperable	Posted - 2005.10.23 22:07:00 - [4] Gl Eddz, and KIA. Damn we need another london meet :P /me will never forget finding myself in the midst of KIA whilst a member of Evol in the GNW...it was rather funny :P Interesting... Gallery
Pepperami	Posted - 2005.10.23 22:19:00 - [5] <3 kia, great flying with you guys. Welcome to - V - [We're Recruiting!] [http://spankage.co.uk/]
Cartiff	Posted - 2005.10.23 22:36:00 - [6] KIA was not set to -10 cos you war dec'd PA, but as your not blue, u would have been fired upon in 0.0, as is NBSI Alliance policy. More targets :) cya in space Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
zincol	Posted - 2005.10.23 22:40:00 - [7] The day has come where SAS and KIA will shoot upon each other.
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2005.10.23 22:42:00 - [8] With a heavy heart Zincol, that I can promise you. CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
Light Darkness	Posted - 2005.10.23 23:08:00 - [9] Edited by: Light Darkness on 23/10/2005 23:08:18 -V- is proud to give a honored Corp a "home" for the time in the war against our enemys. Have fun in -V- and i hope you will get many nice fights with -V-members together. Regards /LD -V-President -V-Fleet Command -V- Public Killboard
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.10.23 23:11:00 - [10] Originally by: KIAEddZ Upon war deccing of PA, we have been set to -10 by FE and NBSI, despite our wishes to not have our conflict with the PA effcts those relationships. So, with this in mind, we will be joining one of the entities of that are currently at empire war with these 3 Alliances. The duration of our membership of the V alliance, is for the duration of our period of damage infliction upon the PA. It will be as usual an honour to fly by the side of a good set of guys, and V most certainly are that, and an honour to fight the likes of FE and NBSI, another good set of guys. Again do not take our appreciation of our Marks as weakness, NBSI and FE will be treated with the same ferocity of attention, as the PA will be. It was their choice after all to set us to -10. I am not interested in a flame war with any of the partys. No KIA member will post on this post, or entertain any arguments of petty discussions about our motivations. If any serious questions arise, then feel free to eve mail me, for discussion or resolution. I wil post here again only If i see a real need to do so. We will let our guns do the talking. See you in space. www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard whatever helps ya sleep at night....
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2005.10.23 23:35:00 - [11] GL in your new home.
Auldare	Posted - 2005.10.24 00:34:00 - [12] Ah poot, and heres me not being able to play much these days. Will always have a friendly word to say about you guys, but still woulda been fun having a pot shot for purely research reasons ================================================
Insane Angel	Posted - 2005.10.24 02:02:00 - [13] I may have a lack of knowledge in this, and alot of what I heard of KIA has been good. However I bring myself to ask this question: You retracted the contract on b0b not too long ago, and went freelance in settling grudges. PA, is one of the grudges? Not a contract as a merc corp, right? I only ask because I may have missed some forums about it in the near past. (and lazy to look) If it is a contract, wouldnt it look 'bad' (for lack of better term) if u cancel a contract on a 'hard' target(b0b) and switch to (no offense PA) what appears to be a 'soft' target? And if it is a grudge, and this again is from my limited knowledge of this, is it because PA didnt help to fight b0b back then when i think u and 1 other corp were the only ones to fight? I hope my questions dont sound too offensive, I am curious because I dont know and would like to know (whenever I tell family or friends about EVE I reference its history and to that effect it is why i would like to know).
Cartiff	Posted - 2005.10.24 02:06:00 - [14] I quite like KIA, truth be known, but this only looks like a ploy to get more red boxes without paying a war fee, which is fairplay, just like you to say it lol, i don't care eitherway, I'm in 0.0 mining veld anyway Sidenote, This 2billion you wanna damage PA by, is this still set? or will it be shared between all 3 allianes now, or have you just dropped that, and wanna just shoot things? Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
Dracolich	Posted - 2005.10.24 02:51:00 - [15] Why PA? At least you are joining V, and not the [7]. Light Darkness is a smackfree pvp'er, and thus thumbs up in my books. /emote waves to Tatsue Niko. _______________________________________
Eversor	Posted - 2005.10.24 02:56:00 - [16] I always liked KIA, ever since flying with them during the old PA days and watching that "Break-Dancing" video (you know which one. Well kinda sucks having to see you guys flashing red, but heck its just a game. ;) GL
darth solo	Posted - 2005.10.24 15:22:00 - [17] Originally by: KIAEddZ About a week later, I passed a Rom Renegades Ishtar, in my 1 Bill Diemos. I left him, as my standings instructed me to do so, and passed on my way. On my travels back, i arrived at a gate, saw the 2 PA pilots (reason 2). They destroyed my Diemos, and were openly pirating in Tannolen. They have been doing that for ages, im sure we had some probs with Romanian Renegades pirating in Empire also.. PA needs to get rid of them. d solo.
Amrotis	Posted - 2005.10.24 15:23:00 - [18] Will be an honor to fight against you :)
christoforos	Posted - 2005.10.24 15:52:00 - [19] Originally by: darth solo They have been doing that for ages, im sure we had some probs with Romanian Renegades pirating in Empire also.. PA needs to get rid of them. d solo. That's not true. Eddz may be right or wrong about wanting his stuff back, but he was shot down because of negative standings not piracy. And I am sure he understands we are not to be blamed about having him at negative, while he thought we were neutral. We can debate forever if we should have given him back the loot, but that has nothing to do with piracy. PA strongly condemns piracy.
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2005.10.24 15:53:00 - [20] Woot, KIA owns. I'll say this about your guys, they are good tacklers. Last few joint ops, virtually no survivors.
ParMizaN	Posted - 2005.10.24 15:53:00 - [21] Edited by: ParMizaN on 24/10/2005 15:53:42 Originally by: KIAEddZ Reason 1 was a 1 billion isk Eagle I lost to a PA fleet Reason 2 was a 1 billion isk Diemos I lost to a PA Pirate gang. so : reason 1: Originally by: deimos Destroyed items: Type: J5b Phased Prototype Warp Inhibitor I (Fitted - Medium slot) Type: X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator (Fitted - Medium slot) Type: Heavy Electron Blaster II (Fitted - High slot) Type: Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II (Fitted - Low slot) Type: Heavy Electron Blaster II (Fitted - High slot) Type: Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Antimatter Charge M (Cargo) Quantity: 2000 Type: Antimatter Charge M (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 200 yes reason 2 had around a bil of loot aparently but still.. exaggeration is bad :P Killing the rich and giving to me
Hast	Posted - 2005.10.24 16:20:00 - [22] Edited by: Hast on 24/10/2005 16:23:10 Originally by: christoforos Originally by: darth solo They have been doing that for ages, im sure we had some probs with Romanian Renegades pirating in Empire also.. PA needs to get rid of them. d solo. That's not true. Eddz may be right or wrong about wanting his stuff back, but he was shot down because of negative standings not piracy. And I am sure he understands we are not to be blamed about having him at negative, while he thought we were neutral. We can debate forever if we should have given him back the loot, but that has nothing to do with piracy. PA strongly condemns piracy. well the point is that its not only the KIA incident... As Darth said they have been openly pirating in Tannolen... P.S. I expect to be shoot by PA no matter what
Crellion	Posted - 2005.10.24 16:21:00 - [23] Edited by: Crellion on 24/10/2005 16:21:41 nm :)
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2005.10.24 16:42:00 - [24] Originally by: ParMizaN Edited by: ParMizaN on 24/10/2005 15:53:42 Originally by: KIAEddZ Reason 1 was a 1 billion isk Eagle I lost to a PA fleet Reason 2 was a 1 billion isk Diemos I lost to a PA Pirate gang. so : reason 1: Originally by: deimos Destroyed items: Type: J5b Phased Prototype Warp Inhibitor I (Fitted - Medium slot) Type: X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator (Fitted - Medium slot) Type: Heavy Electron Blaster II (Fitted - High slot) Type: Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II (Fitted - Low slot) Type: Heavy Electron Blaster II (Fitted - High slot) Type: Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I (Fitted - High slot) Type: Antimatter Charge M (Cargo) Quantity: 2000 Type: Antimatter Charge M (Fitted - High slot) Quantity: 200 yes reason 2 had around a bil of loot aparently but still.. exaggeration is bad :P Parmizan. I,m gonna asusme your sleepy or summin. Those are destroyed items. the 5 corpum passive Hardeners, and the corpum a type med rep was the modules i was aggrieved to lose. They "werent destroyed" hence not on the kill mail, and hence my demand to have them returned. I wouldnt demand the return of modules that ahd been destroyed, that simply wouldnt be fair ;) CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
KIAStumpy	Posted - 2005.10.24 16:45:00 - [25] Give them hell boys !!!
riker	Posted - 2005.10.24 17:50:00 - [26] just a quick ? why u flying a 1bill ship and not be on your guard? 2nd why fly the 2nd 1bill ship again?? you just had a war w/ them and u not be rdy to fight them where ever you are regardless of where you are . just a simple ?
Narciss Sevar	Posted - 2005.10.24 18:29:00 - [27] Originally by: riker just a quick ? why u flying a 1bill ship and not be on your guard? 2nd why fly the 2nd 1bill ship again?? you just had a war w/ them and u not be rdy to fight them where ever you are regardless of where you are . just a simple ? Better yet, why fly a ship at all? -------- A pretty girl can kiss a guy, a bird can kiss a butterfly. Teh rising sun can kiss the grass, but you my friend can kiss my A**E!
Plague Rexus	Posted - 2005.10.24 18:59:00 - [28] Edited by: Plague Rexus on 24/10/2005 18:59:44 There are two things here which, i am sick to death of hearing and i think are grossly unfair: 1. That PA is, weak, dishonourable, untrustworthy, users of others, pirates, crap at pvp, smacktalkers, too aggressive, not aggressive enough, undiplomatic or pu**y's who never fight. Now all this would be fairnuff if it where true, however the simply staggering amount of uniformed people who simply know nothing of PA (Yet comment on us all the time)and deny that we are as big as other alliances, that we kill as other alliances do, maintain and respect friendships as other alliances do and have principles as many others do - surprises me beyond belief. Then there are those that simply lie about us - those of you that have been killed by us in pvp and fleetbattles and still refuse to admit PA has done or won anything or that we are as worthy of respect as any other. This war so far has been excellent due to the respect that each of the alliances are according each other - with the exception of PA. All i ask is we keep the fun going and the respect mutual. 2.)This KIA thing, i wish you could just be honest and quantify the cause of this as revenge pure and simple rather than an honourable vendetta against a dishonourable foe. Smacktalk i always condemn in anyone, but as for standings i dont understand this toleration of mercenaries in game. Honour is not a mercenaries game, money is - therefore saying things like when merc contracts end standings are honourably reset is a copout for not wanting to face the consequences of mercenary actions. You cant have your cake and eat it. Basic point all merc corps that have declared on an alliance should remain permanent enemies of said alliance unless diplomatic reperations are made. And there is where KIA fall down, what should have been quoted to you when you where killed by PA 'pirates' 'Your bed KIA, you fkin lie in it.' Bottom line war and revenge - great stuff wish you had left it at that. Playing the victim - shame on you. For all that respect to ALL in this war, best thing in Eve for a long time.
ezzle	Posted - 2005.10.24 21:40:00 - [29] Some good smack free fights! Some (well 1 in particular) really really bad buggy fights :( Look forward to more
joseph stalin	Posted - 2005.10.24 21:43:00 - [30] god what was the point of this post? how about you make your ego shutup and realize no one really cares?

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