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Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 139	Posted - 2013.05.24 19:06:00 - [1] - Quote Are fuel blocks going to spike or go up in price after Odessey? Not looking for an angle here, except perhaps stocking up before they do. Sorry if this has been covered. Have googled a lot for discussions on this.
Rengerel en Distel Amarr Science and Industry 1499	Posted - 2013.05.24 19:20:00 - [2] - Quote My crystal ball says: maybe. With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Felicity Love STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate 629	Posted - 2013.05.24 19:34:00 - [3] - Quote Yep, probably double in price by the end of the summer as stockpiles dry up. Or not. Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies"
Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 140	Posted - 2013.05.24 20:01:00 - [4] - Quote Well, I bought 2 months extra supply just in case, and mined out 2k ice blocks as a little hedge. :)
Bloody Wench 375	Posted - 2013.05.25 02:38:00 - [5] - Quote Victoria Sin wrote: Well, I bought 2 months extra supply just in case, and mined out 2k ice blocks as a little hedge. :) A whole 2 months? Nice. Support a Hi Resolution Texture Pack
joyous the Slippery Penguin 13	Posted - 2013.05.25 06:43:00 - [6] - Quote skys falling, get out while you can
Britta Nolen Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 17	Posted - 2013.05.25 10:52:00 - [7] - Quote lol, ice harvesters are getting their cycle time cut in half. GL with that.
Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 143	Posted - 2013.05.25 11:51:00 - [8] - Quote Bloody Wench wrote: Victoria Sin wrote: Well, I bought 2 months extra supply just in case, and mined out 2k ice blocks as a little hedge. :) A whole 2 months? Nice. I rarely play more than 3 months at a time.
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris 1893	Posted - 2013.05.25 14:33:00 - [9] - Quote Everyone in my alliance who does POS work has a stockpile of a year or more. I think other people are creating huge stocks as well. It may be awhile for any sort of "icepocolypse" to occur, maybe long enough for the game to adapt. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 145	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:36:00 - [10] - Quote People are suggesting low ends will fall in price. If that's true, low ends being over 1/2 the costs in making the items I make, I'm guessing higher POS costs will be offset to an extent, so the net effect might be zero. After that, it's all down to the moon goo changes I guess.

Felicity Love STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate 630	Posted - 2013.05.26 04:49:00 - [11] - Quote Victoria Sin wrote: People are suggesting low ends will fall in price. Maybe. Over the summer you might keep an eye on battleship volumes combined with any news of increased fighting for freshly shuffled moons. Depends who gets their knickers in a twist, or not. Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies"
Juwi Kotch Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 9	Posted - 2013.05.26 11:20:00 - [12] - Quote Everyone I know who can mine is mining ice for last two months. Everyone I know who has a POS is stocking up fuel for the last two months. There is enough ice and fuel in game to last for two years or more without any ice being mined at all. Simple rule of demand and supply applies here. A radically increased supply will meet a reduced demand. The price for ice will fall. "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451
Felicity Love STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate 633	Posted - 2013.05.26 13:16:00 - [13] - Quote Juwi Kotch wrote: Everyone I know who can mine is mining ice for last two months. Everyone I know who has a POS is stocking up fuel for the last two months. Stockpiles are tricky things. They can be stolen or blown up, and as prices creep up freighters loaded with isotopes will be prime targets in the future. Or the "stockpile" can simply disappear into the Bit Bucket if a player quits or gets banned. Fun times ahead Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies"
Juwi Kotch Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 9	Posted - 2013.05.26 22:23:00 - [14] - Quote Sure, but blowing up transports or quitting players and things like that also happens in "normal" times and is factored in in "normal" prices with a "normal" supply and demand situation. Less demand and much more supply is just added to this. But let's see what the prices are in July or August. My bet is on a reduced price for ice compared to today. "Our lives are not our own. We are bound to others, past and present. And by each crime, and every kindness, we birth our future." Sonmi-451
Rhivre TarNec Invisible Exchequer 194	Posted - 2013.05.26 22:29:00 - [15] - Quote Juwi Kotch wrote: But let's see what the prices are in July or August. My bet is on a reduced price for ice compared to today. I agree that there will be a fluctuation in prices, and it will be a bit rocky for a while, but eventually it will settle to a new, higher stable point
Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 145	Posted - 2013.05.26 22:59:00 - [16] - Quote Hmmmm reduced price for ice? Let's think: if it increases in price, more people will do it. More people doing it will decrease the price, so fewer people will do it, until the price rises again. Except there's a limit on supply, so an effective floor there (for high-sec mining at least). I wonder if the stable point around which it will fluctuate has already been priced in with the recent rise?
Felicity Love STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate 643	Posted - 2013.05.28 00:04:00 - [17] - Quote Victoria Sin wrote: Hmmmm reduced price for ice? Let's think: if it increases in price, more people will do it. More people doing it will decrease the price, so fewer people will do it, until the price rises again. Except there's a limit on supply, so an effective floor there (for high-sec mining at least). I wonder if the stable point around which it will fluctuate has already been priced in with the recent rise? I doubt it. It was only a little under a year ago (mid June, 2012) that White Glaze hit 420K per block. The price will gradually trend up as stockpiles are consumed, but the real kicker will be if there's another interdiction. The soon-to-be limited availability of ice would make that kind of campaign much more of a shock to the economy than ever before. Then you'd see the much discussed "butterfly effect" in all it's glory, so to speak. Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies"
Sir SmashAlot The League of Extraordinary Opportunists Intergalactic Conservation Movement 18	Posted - 2013.05.28 14:19:00 - [18] - Quote My gut says that ice products will not rise significantly more than where they are now. Though highsec will no longer be the sole supplier, the reduction in cycle time will dramatically increase the incentive to mine ice. Any major price jumps would make ice mining as profitable as running incursions. Any interdiction events will have signicantly more punch so it will be interesting to see how these mechanic changes affect the meta going forward.
Benteen Drone A.I. Servicing Inc. 11	Posted - 2013.06.09 10:48:00 - [19] - Quote Well, I doubt I'll be mining Ice anymore... Every time I've tried it's already gone before I even get there. I guess having a life is an issue now within EvE... I predict Ice prices ending up higher than current as alot of the older miners with lives cannot effectively mine anymore.
Samroski Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance 246	Posted - 2013.06.09 11:06:00 - [20] - Quote Benteen wrote: Well, I doubt I'll be mining Ice anymore... Every time I've tried it's already gone before I even get there. I guess having a life is an issue now within EvE... I predict Ice prices ending up higher than current as alot of the older miners with lives cannot effectively mine anymore. Sort of makes you sad, when you see something iconic in Eve change. I feel for the ice miners, and will be looking forward to their tears. Any colour you like.

Seetesh RTS - POS Deployments 46	Posted - 2013.06.09 12:20:00 - [21] - Quote Most likely given that a lot of isboxers were affected. I have supplies of all isotopes in excess of a 20million each to off load when prices increase.
Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 239	Posted - 2013.06.09 12:24:00 - [22] - Quote So far, prices look pretty flat. Either huge stocks out there (people like the guy above me), or it's not really made a huge difference.


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