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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.10.25 18:55:00 -
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I just thought I'd post in this thread before it gets locked thanks to jorz' real-life threats.
I don't know the whole story, but Mak certainly sheds some interesting light on things.
And if you really aren't affiliated with SAS, why in the world would you have put that in the name????? It's like making a corp called ATUK Strike Force, or m0o Strike Force and wondering why people don't like you.
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budman905
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Posted - 2005.10.25 19:39:00 -
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 Originally by: F'nog
I just thought I'd post in this thread before it gets locked thanks to jorz' real-life threats.
I don't know the whole story, but Mak certainly sheds some interesting light on things.
And if you really aren't affiliated with SAS, why in the world would you have put that in the name????? It's like making a corp called ATUK Strike Force, or m0o Strike Force and wondering why people don't like you.
OMG! at last some 1 who agrees with me! 
F'nog 4tw! 
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Finally someone that's made more ridiculous on these forums than I was last year.
Hmmm, dunno 'bout that mate - what this guy's doing has been done before
What you did was truly unique...
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Von Driesel
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:46:00 -
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OMG, j0rz and his whining again...
Anti-pirate...
Does it look familiar?
BTW you seriously need some medical attention. I know a good psychiatrist in Melbourneà
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:04:00 -
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Abdalion must be on vacation.
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
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JAG Solex
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Posted - 2005.10.26 08:14:00 -
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LOL
This is like one of those bad soap operas that's so f'd up you cant stop watching..
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.26 09:16:00 -
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It took em awhile to find them, since i could not remember where on the forums id put them (our corp forums where very active)
We thought we'd put up sum rules
1. No Smacktalk. This Constitutes as saying ***** you u ***** imma get my corp on u or yeh and ur mums a hoe u lamer, go away loser*. (things i say to u guys )
2. No podding when not at war (ship kill is enuff).
3. Participate in corp activities.
4. Respect the command chain within the corp.
5. Do not treat a new player like **** just because u have more skill points. Your are all equal in this corp.
6. We are a PVP / Industry Corp, so please remember to keep ur mouth shut when it comes to command giving orders. We don't give orders often so please respect us when we do.
7. NEVER pay a pirate, if he has u warp scrambled and firing on u, tell him to go **** himself, we do not negotiate with pirates.
8. Corp theft won't be tolerated. Roles are set by rank. So if u joined to try and rob us. Aint gonna happen.
This is for now. Any more suggestions will be welcome
Skaffen Will Be Addmin More Tnite Once Ive Had A Command Meeting
But um, so where does us pirating come into this?
Such is Life
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JoKane
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Posted - 2005.10.26 09:26:00 -
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And your point is?
You failed to obey the first rule pretty bad btw.
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.26 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: JoKane
And your point is?
You failed to obey the first rule pretty bad btw.
Apart from ur obvious lack of inteligence when it comes to being lied to since u absolutley refuse to belive that russian punk lied to u, and whoever hired u, if they did since all ur corps are pirate corps claiming to be mercs,ur an embarassment, no rules where broken
SHOW ME A SINGLE KILL MAIL COMMITTED IN PIRACY
U lack serious evidence fool
Such is Life
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Von Driesel
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Posted - 2005.10.26 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Von Driesel on 26/10/2005 11:07:48
everybody lies! take any single topic opened by j0rz - he keeps accusing everyone. liers! all of you! Only j0rz will tell you the truth! YARRR! 
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.10.26 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: j0rz
Originally by: JoKane
And your point is?
You failed to obey the first rule pretty bad btw.
Apart from ur obvious lack of inteligence when it comes to being lied to since u absolutley refuse to belive that russian punk lied to u, and whoever hired u, if they did since all ur corps are pirate corps claiming to be mercs,ur an embarassment, no rules where broken
SHOW ME A SINGLE KILL MAIL COMMITTED IN PIRACY
U lack serious evidence fool
Oopsie - there goes rule #1 again...
You're doin well, fella 
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joshmanicus
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Posted - 2005.10.26 11:51:00 -
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/me posts before thread locking.
Hey look guys! I'm in this thread! See?
Anyways, this is just plain bizarre. I find it really funny that a respected corp like S.A.S. who has earned thier honour through shrewd and effective mercenary work is now being called ebil by a guy whose own corp turned on him when they realized how big of a nut he was. I don't know that much about this situation, and the truth is that I don't really care. You are (/where) an S.A.S. mining lacky and you are being disobient. You'd better get back to mining lest S.A.S. release the hounds on you.
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JoKane
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Posted - 2005.10.26 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: j0rz
Apart from ur obvious lack of inteligence when it comes to being lied to since u absolutley refuse to belive that russian punk lied to u, and whoever hired u, if they did since all ur corps are pirate corps claiming to be mercs,ur an embarassment, no rules where broken
Who is this russian that you keep talking about j0rz? Or wait, I dont care btw. And about me being lied to, I just do what I get paid for and dont care about the reason. You may call us what you want it doesnt really matter. You seem to accuse everyone of piracy now anyways.
And please stop blaming everyone else for what happend to your corp, you are the only one who made this a bigger thing than it was from the beginning. I just feel sad about all the new guys that you left in your corp when you ran away the first day of the war. They didnt know what to do and now many are planning on leaving EVE. We have been talking to some of your old members and trying to give them some tips on what to do now since you dont seem to care anymore. Its a shame some are leaving, they seem to be nice guys most of them. Maybe someone here are willing to give them a new home?
And you broke rule 8 also btw since you stole all in corp hangars. Pirate.
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Xarvos
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Posted - 2005.10.26 12:45:00 -
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great thread and thnx for a good laugh
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Let's have some fun shall we ?
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Panzer Goddess
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Posted - 2005.10.26 14:28:00 -
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JoKane can spell good.
We are definately mercs btw.
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Skaffen Amtiskaa
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Posted - 2005.10.26 14:46:00 -
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Ok. Nobody's honestly believing anything that's said in this thread anymore right?, so I don't expect these words to hold much weight, but for what it's worth 
I've been in this from the start (as a former member of SASSF), and have spoken to most people who are specifically involved in this mess - imagine that, actually talking - even to 'the Russian' (not that I know if he is Russian or not) and I still don't know what really went on.
I do believe what 'the Russian' has told me; that he is not a pirate (I actually saw the secure cans to that effect, in his system, when we went down there), that he didn't hire the mercs, didn't intend for things to go this far and it could have all been prevented from the outset.
I can also respect the mercs, who have stuck to their word and not revealed their sources, are playing a game and just doing their job, would have preffered it if we could have fought back, and had any negotiations taken place, would have ceased hostilities following favourable terms.
I will also state that SASSF have never been involved with SAS, nor were we ever pirates. Not the wisest choice of corp names, perhaps, but our CEOs have always worked extremely hard to build something positive. If they were outwardly aggressive, it was only in the defence of us rookies, and with regards to this specific instance, it has been a very emotional and confusing time for us all.
The above list does accurately reflect our corp rules; they were still a work in progress, but are testament to the short space of time this corp was active, as well as I hope, dissociating SASSF further from the real S.A.S.
My wingman, a RL friend, has left the game because of this, and I am pretty close to following suit. Nothing to do with losing ships or ISK, both can be replaced, and I didn't actually lose much anyway.
During one of the conversations I have had, I was told that I shouldn't quit because I can make lots of new friends, as good as my RL ones, here in the game. Yes I can, and I had done so, but they are all now scattering across the galaxy as fast as they can to try and put this behind them. Others have left the game. 
The threat of having three veteran merc corps warring you is a lot for some people to take, especially when they have only been playing a few weeks (some not knowing what BMs are, nor ever having been into 0.0), have all of their savings tied up in their new ship, which they are excited to test out, but can't undock from the station because they will have it taken away from them for something they know little about.
Yes, the people can also be replaced, though it takes a lot more time and effort, and what is the point in doing so, when this type of affair is just as likely to happen in the future?
I know that a lot of people see this as a wholly PvP game, and that you need to learn to fight, but i see a lot more to eve than that. Granted, everyone should be trained in how to avoid theives and pirates and gankers, but not everyone should have to become one. Nor should people be forced into 'learning' how much faster someone with twenty times their SP, and a ship ten times the cost, can take apart their ship. I could've told you that before-hand... not very long.
Hell, someone with 20 times my SP should still be able to destroy me, even if they were using an alt character with fewer SP than me and flying an equivalent ship. 
I know that we were only a small, insignificant corp to many of the people who have been posting in this thread, but to us guys in the corp, it was all of our Eve - everything we had built over the last six weeks, and everything we were working towards.
Like I said, I still do not know which actions prompted all of this initially, though I am aware of how / why it escalated, and more than conscious of the consequences. None of us deserved any of this, nor are we now, or ever were, in a position to do anything about it.
So I guess we lose.
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Sydous Mytech
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:06:00 -
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Thanks Skaff. You put it better than anyone else could. I sincerly hope you dont leave the game. It was fun while it lasted.
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Feewi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:07:00 -
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SASSF hangar had 180mil isk, about another that much worth of minerals and other stuff...
all 4 officers got 10 million and the BPs, the 35 others were left out cold.
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Feewi
SASSF hangar had 180mil isk, about another that much worth of minerals and other stuff...
all 4 officers got 10 million and the BPs, the 35 others were left out cold.
Thank uf ro whoever that was, lets fuel another argument shall we?
Lets clear this right now, i cleared the hangars and refined it all and have agreed to give the officers ten mil, then let me make another point, THE CORP WALLET was my wallet, all the isk in there was mine. The hangar was msot of my mods from my previous corp
no theft ever went on, the only people who have actual right to any profit are skaff and ach, and syd, thats it
stop fuelling this damn it
let this thread die ffs
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Ribbo
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: Ribbo on 26/10/2005 15:23:30
Originally by: j0rz
THE CORP WALLET was mine!, all the isk in there was mine!. The hangar mine, mine ALL MINE1!1111!ohnoz!!
no theft ever went on, there are no american troops in iraq
im a manical corpthieving pirate!!
let this thread die ffs
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Makran
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:47:00 -
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Skaff, thanks for the post man, you've said it better than I ever could.
I'd hate to see you leave man, it was good times, and I'm sure there can be more ahead of you. I have new developments in regards to my future plans that I'd like to share with you, hopefully you're online tonight so I can catch you up.
EVE has great potential to be one of the best/most successful MMOG's out there, if it didn't it would have such a large player-base. It is unfortunate, however, that a lot of folks take stuff like this too far. But, if we all take our experiences from this disaster and learn from them, we can at least attempt to keep this kind of thing from happening again.
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Jack Dorian
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ribbo
Edited by: Ribbo on 26/10/2005 15:23:30
Originally by: j0rz
THE CORP WALLET was mine!, all the isk in there was mine!. The hangar mine, mine ALL MINE1!1111!ohnoz!!
no theft ever went on, there are no american troops in iraq
im a manical corpthieving pirate!!
let this thread die ffs
quoted for truth!
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JoKane
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:59:00 -
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Skaffen is a good guy. I¦ve been talking to him some and his biggest burden atm as I understand is how he could gather up the remaining players and give them a new good home. Says alot about the guy.
What the newer players in SASSF just have experienced is something that most EVE players have to go trough. EVE is a though game, corps disbands every day. The lack of leadership just made this case a little more ruff and alot wasnt ready to be left all alone.
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Makran
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Posted - 2005.10.26 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: JoKane
Skaffen is a good guy.
You left me out because I'm a bad guy? Is that it JoKane? I know you hate me because I'm not a pirate, just say so! You're so mean, and...um...rude.
/humorous irony
Everyone I met from Immunity has been very professional. Thanks for being so.
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JoKane
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Posted - 2005.10.26 16:12:00 -
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Haha, no you¦re one of the good guys also Makran. Thanks for the words about Immunty even though the war was over pretty quick.
Good luck in the future.
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Von Driesel
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Posted - 2005.10.26 21:55:00 -
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Ohh... This thread is too good!
The 'russian guy' j0rz keeps mentioning is the director of the Molden Heath Security Forces (the unofficial alliance). And SASSF had not only 3 merc corps on their tails, but about 10 more wardec on the way. By kicking himself out j0rz saved his corp from complete annihilation. Oh, and 'russian guy' did not hire those mercs. There was absolutely no need to do that. The MH-SEC force was more then enough to deal with SASSF.
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.26 22:56:00 -
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a 8 month old newb?
god u people are so funny, u follow a russian, thats funny, um ask him if his mum is aprt of rentabride
:D
oh and we left to stop war decs not running, justs o we are clear on that
Such is Life
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:04:00 -
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Could someone please put this tread out of it's missery?
It's like a bad rerun of a horrid soapopera.
SoonÖ
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Could someone please put this tread out of it's missery?
It's like a bad rerun of a horrid soapopera.
Much like ur pathetic corp
Such is Life
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: j0rz
Originally by: Muthsera
Could someone please put this tread out of it's missery?
It's like a bad rerun of a horrid soapopera.
Much like ur pathetic corp
So do you have anything to contribute to the boards anymore, or do you just flame SAS and Russians?
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