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hinta
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Posted - 2005.10.24 21:30:00 -
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Ok this is just a question, i need your oppinon, who would win 1 vs 1 , if a domi and mega went armor tanking, and they both had there own unique and good setup?If u think this is a stupid question dont respond
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Megadon
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Posted - 2005.10.24 21:31:00 -
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 Originally by: hinta
Ok this is just a question, i need your oppinon, who would win 1 vs 1 , if a domi and mega went armor tanking, and they both had there own unique and good setup?If u think this is a stupid question dont respond
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.10.24 21:32:00 -
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I think it depends what the "unique and good" setups are.. >_>
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Grut
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Posted - 2005.10.24 21:38:00 -
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Domi prettymuch >> all atm for 1v1's in genral setups. The mega is however far more useful fleet.
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hinta
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Posted - 2005.10.24 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
I think it depends what the "unique and good" setups are.. >_>
how bout
domi:
6 heavy nos
XL c5l 3 hardners amp
pduII and 2hardners for armor
mega:
High:
3 425 tech2
3 350 tech2
2 seige lauchers
Mid:
4 cap chargers(BEST YOU GOT)
Low:
2 cpr
4 hardners(I run 2 kinetic and 2 thermal)
1 large armor repair(I use large automated)
i know this prob aint the best but yah dont got much time cause i am leaving right now, so tell me what u think? cause i think a domi can do it with all the drones and all the drones skill maxed!
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madaluap
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Posted - 2005.10.24 21:54:00 -
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mmh if they fit out normally, than mega pwns domi. but in the past i have pwnd mega in a domi myself. it depends on how crap the other guy is. a normal domi setup doesnt include more than 1 kin and 1 therm hardener (pvp this is) you need to cover explo too. so a good blasterthron with 6X electron and 2X heavy nos and injector wont have that much problem with facing 4-5 nos. and dont forget the domi has 5 drones extra, which aint that much compared to 6X electron 2 pumping plenty of dps.
i would say domi loses, but well i have won from a mega too in a domi, but i had some nice jammer in medslots 
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R31D
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Posted - 2005.10.24 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: hinta
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
I think it depends what the "unique and good" setups are.. >_>
how bout
domi:
6 heavy nos
XL c5l 3 hardners amp
pduII and 2hardners for armor
mega:
High:
3 425 tech2
3 350 tech2
2 seige lauchers
Mid:
4 cap chargers(BEST YOU GOT)
Low:
2 cpr
4 hardners(I run 2 kinetic and 2 thermal)
1 large armor repair(I use large automated)
i know this prob aint the best but yah dont got much time cause i am leaving right now, so tell me what u think? cause i think a domi can do it with all the drones and all the drones skill maxed!
I wouldn't really class that as a 'good' mega setup to be honest. Also, domi would win, mainly because it can afford to use EWar. if EWar wasn't allowed and the mega has a large smartbomb, it's an easy fight
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lythos miralbar
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Posted - 2005.10.24 21:59:00 -
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mega with :-
7 modul neutrons or tech II ions
120% named mwd, web, scram, cap injector
large repairer (pref sccomodation), 3 hardners, 2 dammage mods, rcu
= very dead domi very fast..
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.24 22:02:00 -
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Domi, hands down.
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DrakeZakharov
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Posted - 2005.10.24 22:06:00 -
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I'd say that if the thron was in a blaster set-up he would eat the domi. Any other set-up and its a close call , but i'd go for the mega, just because long range thron would be close enough for nos. Remember that the thron only has 5 less drones and hell of a lot more firepower ;)
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WhiteTiger
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Posted - 2005.10.24 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: hinta
Ok this is just a question, i need your oppinon, who would win 1 vs 1 , if a domi and mega went armor tanking, and they both had there own unique and good setup?If u think this is a stupid question dont respond
Not stupid, but too many factors to really pick a clear winner. Is this a pre-planned 1 v 1 where both pilots know what they are facing? Do you need to warp scramble and destroy the ship for a win or is forcing the other guy to warp out count for a win?
If the pilots know the race of the ship they are facing and have good EW skills the extra mid slot gives the domi a clear advantage. The extra damage from the guns on the mega are useless if it is jammed. Of course jamming is suppose to be somewhat random so you could get really unlucky and lose.
If it isn't preplanned then what type of setup would each ship has and what range the battle happens will determine the winner. There are many things that can be done with the domi and several setups for the mega.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.10.24 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: hinta
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
I think it depends what the "unique and good" setups are.. >_>
how bout
domi:
6 heavy nos
XL c5l 3 hardners amp
pduII and 2hardners for armor
mega:
High:
3 425 tech2
3 350 tech2
2 seige lauchers
Mid:
4 cap chargers(BEST YOU GOT)
Low:
2 cpr
4 hardners(I run 2 kinetic and 2 thermal)
1 large armor repair(I use large automated)
i know this prob aint the best but yah dont got much time cause i am leaving right now, so tell me what u think? cause i think a domi can do it with all the drones and all the drones skill maxed!
Neither. Both ships can warp off at will.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.10.24 23:58:00 -
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Domi setup is crap with dual tanking.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.10.25 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 25/10/2005 00:02:02
Domi,has more versatile set up options.
4 diminidhing nos
2 cap neuts
3 named jammers
1 10km webby
1 named scrambler
2 vestment armor reps
2 N-type Kinetic Hardeners
1 N-Type Thermal hardener
1 cap relay
1 rcu 2
Drone bay full of t2 drones.
Now to tank megs either use 350mms or Ions usually. So in the case of a blaster set up his cap is pretty damn low by the time he gets in range,in the case of the 350mm set up,well you do have jammers for a reason.
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jamesw
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Posted - 2005.10.25 00:41:00 -
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A well setup Domi should be able to take on not 1, but 2 blasterthrons (simultaneously), and win (or come very close to it).
1vs1, the mega pilot can only lose.
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Tomias Itaraou
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Posted - 2005.10.25 01:19:00 -
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The Domi is however useless in fleet battles(Think Snipe) except as point defense against tacklers - a very expensive point defense ship at that.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.10.25 02:06:00 -
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In 1 on 1 Medslots are the deciding factor, because EW/SD totally dominates when there is no fleet to call you primary and blow you up in 10 seconds as soon as you use it...
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twit brent
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Posted - 2005.10.25 04:31:00 -
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when i setup my megathron with a fullout gank it will kill a tanked dominix in no time if i started inside 15km. outside of that i can run then warp.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.10.25 05:35:00 -
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Domi's only advantage is drones, and one extra midslot.
The Dominix everyone fears in 1vs1 is using a lot of heavy nosferatus and a horde of drones, maintaining a decent tank while possibly using EW against the opponent.
The mega can probably pull off a similar setup, except with two more high slots and less drones. It would be interesting to see if a suckathron beats a suckadom in 1vs1. If so, drones are probably a bit overpowered.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.10.25 05:56:00 -
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Yea drones are overpowered like whoa, if they don't do anything entirely random but what you tell them to and are in their 45km range which happens to be ridiculously low for a battleship and ridiculously far for a frigate, don't get insta-killed by a smartbomb and you arent jammed - well heck, they might just do enough damage to make a ganker wish they had brought a repairer to tank them...
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2005.10.25 07:11:00 -
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I would say mostly the Domi would win but replace Nos with 3 or 4 Cap Neutralize which are far more deadly and forget about EW but take 1 Microwarp. EW is not needed if he doesnt have the cap to fire.
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Rex Martell
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Posted - 2005.10.25 08:19:00 -
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Anygood good 1 v 1 Thron set up will have 2-3 Heavy Nos which will nullify what ever the Dominix does in terms or nossing as the Mega can still run its guns after that it come down to guns and drones.
Assuming Battle Ship V and Drone Interfacing V the Dominix has only got 5 extra drones not enough to counter act the effect of 5-6 Neurton Blasters.
if it is an all damage Blastertron the Dominix will pwn it.
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jamesw
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Posted - 2005.10.25 08:22:00 -
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ECM, anyone?  
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Fire Hawk
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Posted - 2005.10.25 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: lythos miralbar
mega with :-
7 modul neutrons or tech II ions
120% named mwd, web, scram, cap injector
large repairer (pref sccomodation), 3 hardners, 2 dammage mods, rcu
= very dead domi very fast..
depends on "brain skills" on the domi pilot. U will approach, i would set a keep distance of 20km, MWD on, sending 14 heavy drones, I'll have 4 NOS on u, time u come to me, u will be at 50% cap maxi, i'll be quite full. U will be on armor, I will be in shield. We Will be close after a while, i'll start my 3 blasters left... easy
Blasterthron got 2 deadly enemies : Raven 1st, then Dominix, then Taranis oO.
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Plim
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Posted - 2005.10.25 12:07:00 -
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Ack...
My old domi was setup something like 2x Large Tech II reps, 3 hardners, 4heavy nos 2 medium nos, dual web, scrambler etc in meds, and drones for the win. That was mostly a setup for killing small ships, cruisers etc, and mucho tanking.
Landed on a blasterthron which only had 1 damage mod fitted and I went down within 82 seconds 
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2005.10.25 12:26:00 -
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ôAnygood good 1 v 1 Thron set up will have 2-3 Heavy Nos which will nullify what ever the Dominix does in terms or nossing as the Mega can still run its guns after that it come down to guns and drones.
What about it if you used 3+ Cap NeutralizeÆs they would drain far more then the 3 Heavy Nos Mega could pull back. 3 cap Heavy Nos with 3 cap NeutralizeÆs is deadly on a Domi.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2005.10.25 12:36:00 -
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Rock.
Paper.
Scissors.
Circumstance.
What ship you use is irrelevent.
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EvilTwin I
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Posted - 2005.10.25 13:26:00 -
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Edited by: EvilTwin I on 25/10/2005 13:27:03
WampaDom vs BlasterThron
hmm' a few press on the smartbomb! and the Dom aint that cool anymore...
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2005.10.25 13:29:00 -
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Hmm a few seconds until the Thron has no cap left from Nos/Neut and the Thron aint that alive anymore.
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EvilTwin I
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Posted - 2005.10.25 13:48:00 -
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blasterthron = 2x nos ~ mwd  |
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dalman
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Posted - 2005.10.25 15:03:00 -
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The dominix can be set up in many many different ways...
...and no matter which one it pick it will still win vs a megathron.
(provided that the pilot has a clue)
A megathron has no purpose what so ever except for long range fleet combat/sniping.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
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Vaux
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Posted - 2005.10.25 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Rock.
Paper.
Scissors.
Circumstance.
What ship you use is irrelevent.
This is the correct answer. Anyone who says "The dominix can be set up in many many different ways...
...and no matter which one it pick it will still win vs a megathron." Doesn't seem to understand that the same people that have a clue about how to fit the domi probably also have a clue about the mega.
Case in point: A domi set up with all Nos's has a drone range of about 45k. A Sniping Mega with 425's carrying varied ammo can fit himself out for a longer range than 45k, and have an AB or MWD to maintain that range from a Domi. The Domi won't ever do any damage to the mega (provided the pilot has a clue - sound familiar?).
But what if you put setup X on it? Then the Mega can fit setup Y and still be a viable option (provided the pilot has a clue). I think this is an interesting debate to see which setups work against each other, but you can't just declare one ship the winner at any given time. Skills, setup, and knowledge of your enemy are the most important factors.
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Diablo
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Posted - 2005.10.25 15:37:00 -
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theres a few vids going about with the Vampadom killing everything it met. Until they jumped it with 6
Thing you gotta remember, if the Domis a vampadom Unless your specifically setup to blasterrize him, even at sniper range he may be ontop of you before u have time to play with ammo ranges, Its a bloomin good setup and ever since it came to light im always kitted to combat it.
But DOMI :) Mega will be close but prob capless .
Can some1 test it :P
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dalman
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Posted - 2005.10.25 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Vaux
Originally by: Testy Mctest
Rock.
Paper.
Scissors.
Circumstance.
What ship you use is irrelevent.
This is the correct answer. Anyone who says "The dominix can be set up in many many different ways...
...and no matter which one it pick it will still win vs a megathron." Doesn't seem to understand that the same people that have a clue about how to fit the domi probably also have a clue about the mega.
Case in point: A domi set up with all Nos's has a drone range of about 45k. A Sniping Mega with 425's carrying varied ammo can fit himself out for a longer range than 45k, and have an AB or MWD to maintain that range from a Domi. The Domi won't ever do any damage to the mega (provided the pilot has a clue - sound familiar?).
But what if you put setup X on it? Then the Mega can fit setup Y and still be a viable option (provided the pilot has a clue). I think this is an interesting debate to see which setups work against each other, but you can't just declare one ship the winner at any given time. Skills, setup, and knowledge of your enemy are the most important factors.
Sigh.
Let me put it like this:
No megathron can kill my dominix 1vs1 (my usual fitting). Period. At least not without a fitting worth >4B and implants worth another >1B.
And many veteran players know I'm familiar with flying a megathron.
And D'OH, using a MWD to stay outside 45km range(drone range) doesn't count as fighting, that's called running and wasting time.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
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DayVV4lkEr
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Posted - 2005.10.25 15:57:00 -
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Blasterthron with normal circumstances (u land ~20 km away from your enemy) will EAT a dominix (with good fitting of course i.e. 800 Cap Boosters)
Normal Fleet Mega under normal Circumstances (u land ~20 km away from your enemy) will get a real beating.
Like someone said before it is all RPS
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hinta
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Posted - 2005.10.25 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Vaux
Originally by: Testy Mctest
Rock.
Sigh.
Let me put it like this:
No megathron can kill my dominix 1vs1 (my usual fitting). Period. At least not without a fitting worth >4B and implants worth another >1B.
And many veteran players know I'm familiar with flying a megathron.
And D'OH, using a MWD to stay outside 45km range(drone range) doesn't count as fighting, that's called running and wasting time.
you are absolutely right!! staying out of 45k is lame
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Plim
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Posted - 2005.10.25 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: DayVV4lkEr
Blasterthron with normal circumstances (u land ~20 km away from your enemy) will EAT a dominix (with good fitting of course i.e. 800 Cap Boosters)
Normal Fleet Mega under normal Circumstances (u land ~20 km away from your enemy) will get a real beating.
Like someone said before it is all RPS
Yep its the cap injectors that make the difference, if the mega lands on you, it dosen't matter how much nos you put on him, he will still have enough cap to kill you.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.10.25 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Plim
Yep its the cap injectors that make the difference, if the mega lands on you, it dosen't matter how much nos you put on him, he will still have enough cap to kill you.
Same with an autocannon tempest. 
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Tadis
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Posted - 2005.10.25 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Sigh.
Let me put it like this:
No megathron can kill my dominix 1vs1 (my usual fitting). Period.
Try telling that to the Battle Angels Blasterthron specialist. Far as his killboard stats go he's killed roughly 15 Domi in a Mega, majority solo, and for 1 loss as far as I can tell.
Basically my point is no set-up is "win win" as either the unexpected, or the down right obvious can win through despite the odds.
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hinta
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Posted - 2005.10.25 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Plim
Originally by: DayVV4lkEr
Blasterthron with normal circumstances (u land ~20 km away from your enemy) will EAT a dominix (with good fitting of course i.e. 800 Cap Boosters)
Normal Fleet Mega under normal Circumstances (u land ~20 km away from your enemy) will get a real beating.
Like someone said before it is all RPS
Yep its the cap injectors that make the difference, if the mega lands on you, it dosen't matter how much nos you put on him, he will still have enough cap to kill you.
if a mega goes blaster on you, he wont have much cap left while you use the nos correct?
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wappy
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Posted - 2005.10.25 16:54:00 -
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Blasterthron is dead vs gankadomi and the domi aint using ECM
domi fitting
6*dual 250MM or 350MM (top named or t2)
1 AB 2 sensor boosters 2 tracking comps
7 T2 dmg mods
even with the mega starting at 20 it dies before you are out of armor and dont forget the drones when you fly with guns
you can fit a med T2 armor rep to repair in between fights if you like that but anything comig in range will die pretty fast
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dalman
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tadis
Edited by: Tadis on 25/10/2005 16:35:58
Originally by: dalman
Sigh.
Let me put it like this:
No megathron can kill my dominix 1vs1 (my usual fitting). Period.
Try telling that to the Battle Angels Blasterthron specialist. Far as his killboard stats go he's killed roughly 15 Domi in a Mega, majority solo, and for 1 loss as far as I can tell (part of his 126 BS for 6 stat).
Basically my point is no set-up is "win win" as either the unexpected, or the down right obvious can win through despite the odds.
My own stats with a blasterthron are better than that.
And I don't fly a blasterhtron any more, because both the Tempest and the Dominix are better.
Drink up, shoot in. Let the beating begin.
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Dragy
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: wappy
Blasterthron is dead vs gankadomi and the domi aint using ECM
domi fitting
6*dual 250MM or 350MM (top named or t2)
1 AB 2 sensor boosters 2 tracking comps
7 T2 dmg mods
even with the mega starting at 20 it dies before you are out of armor and dont forget the drones when you fly with guns
you can fit a med T2 armor rep to repair in between fights if you like that but anything comig in range will die pretty fast
lol, gankathron will kill domi even faster
7 modal neutrons
2 sensor boosters
1 web
1 scrambler
5x stabs II
2x 1600 plates
LOL, it all depends on fitting and starting range so dont be foolish !
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hinta
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: wappy
Blasterthron is dead vs gankadomi and the domi aint using ECM
domi fitting
6*dual 250MM or 350MM (top named or t2)
1 AB 2 sensor boosters 2 tracking comps
7 T2 dmg mods
even with the mega starting at 20 it dies before you are out of armor and dont forget the drones when you fly with guns
you can fit a med T2 armor rep to repair in between fights if you like that but anything comig in range will die pretty fast
with that setup a domie is bound to lose against a mega
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wappy
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:16:00 -
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the setup has been tested over and over again vs an experienced mega pilot and as long as he has blasters fitted he dies before touching hull and if he tries to gank he dies before scratching armor
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hinta
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: wappy
the setup has been tested over and over again vs an experienced mega pilot and as long as he has blasters fitted he dies before touching hull and if he tries to gank he dies before scratching armor
if the mega has a web on you then your damage will start going downm, wont it?
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Posted - 2005.10.25 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Vaux
Originally by: Testy Mctest
Rock.
Paper.
Scissors.
Circumstance.
What ship you use is irrelevent.
This is the correct answer. Anyone who says "The dominix can be set up in many many different ways...
...and no matter which one it pick it will still win vs a megathron." Doesn't seem to understand that the same people that have a clue about how to fit the domi probably also have a clue about the mega.
Case in point: A domi set up with all Nos's has a drone range of about 45k. A Sniping Mega with 425's carrying varied ammo can fit himself out for a longer range than 45k, and have an AB or MWD to maintain that range from a Domi. The Domi won't ever do any damage to the mega (provided the pilot has a clue - sound familiar?).
But what if you put setup X on it? Then the Mega can fit setup Y and still be a viable option (provided the pilot has a clue). I think this is an interesting debate to see which setups work against each other, but you can't just declare one ship the winner at any given time. Skills, setup, and knowledge of your enemy are the most important factors.
or at this 45k mark you'd stay at, id just warp my dominix away and have go grab a cuppa.
Not exactly a win for the mega, when the mega catches the dom in your scenario, he can bail safely, in the dom's case, the throns nailed to the floor and handed his backside.
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Posted - 2005.10.25 20:10:00 -
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ok heres a little vid i found check it out and then tell me what u think of a domi!!!! Linkage
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EvilTwin I
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Posted - 2005.10.25 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: symbi0te
ok heres a little vid i found check it out and then tell me what u think of a domi!!!! Linkage
sh*t ! you using james vid as an example
A guy with 2 wcs
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symbi0te
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Posted - 2005.10.25 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: EvilTwin I
Originally by: symbi0te
ok heres a little vid i found check it out and then tell me what u think of a domi!!!! Linkage
sh*t ! you using james vid as an example
A guy with 2 wcs
yup its nice video and preety awesome i think, but sucks what happens at the end
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: lythos miralbar
mega with :-
7 modul neutrons or tech II ions
120% named mwd, web, scram, cap injector
large repairer (pref sccomodation), 3 hardners, 2 dammage mods, rcu
= very dead domi very fast..
Jammers on mid of Dommi, you lose.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:22:00 -
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Exactly, a Dominix will always win against a Mega because it can fit more sensor boosters and jammers, lock up fast, jam, battle over...
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madaluap
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 25/10/2005 22:53:04
well my mega vs a domi setup.
that would be like 4 nos on me.
2 nos or more are allready useless because i use 2X named nos myself.
that would give the domi 2X large nos or less that really suck cap. combine that with the fact i use an injector and probably have 75% cap left when i get in my optimal. i dont see myself going down to a domi. the only way i can do down is if the domi is setup for 2X kin and 2X therm hardener and uses 2X large rep. but well the first tempest he meets will eat that domi alive than
NOTE: if the domi packs ew than hew ill kick ass yeh. awesome setup that is. NOS,EW,TANK and plenty of dps.
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jamesw
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: EvilTwin I
Originally by: symbi0te
ok heres a little vid i found check it out and then tell me what u think of a domi!!!! Linkage
sh*t ! you using james vid as an example
A guy with 2 wcs
Actually if you want a better example try my "Vertigo in Stain" video. Domi pwns Tech 2 Ion Blasterthron at starting range of about 3km - stabs and all! Ohnoes!
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Rubra Libertas Militia
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