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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:24:00 -
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Quote:The Citadel GÇô Soon after news of Caldari Navy Executive Officer Mininela Erinen's testimony about Admiral Yanala's death was released, several memorial services for the war hero suddenly turned into impromptu protests as people called for answers from State Executor Tibus Heth. Several of the protests subsequently turned violent, when demonstrators clashed with Provist forces. So far, no deaths have been reported, though hundreds have been reported as injured.
Into the morning, Caldari citizens have continued to react with disbelief and anger to the news. Said one protestor who works for Lai Dai, GÇ£Tibus Heth must give an accounting of himself. He can't sit silent in his iron tower and expect us to accept this. Admiral Yanala was a hero and he cannot simply expect us to forget about this.GÇ¥
Others have reacted with slightly greater reservation. Said a middle manager from Hyasyoda, GÇ£We've only heard one side of the story. Obviously if true it's horrible. But anyone who is rioting is just participating in a mob mentality. There's no proof about what she's said. It's her word against the State Executor's. We must wait for the CEP to finish their investigation.GÇ¥
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/vigils-for-yanala-turn-violent/
I guess it is hard for citizens in space to find provists sometimes. And thus I would like to ask you to not harass any State workers and security. There are other ways to release your anger. I believe that only those, who actually did something should accept consequences. Thus I am leaving my quarters door unlocked for anyone(*), who wants to say or do something to provist supporters.
(*) My offer is valid only for citizens of the State. All other trespassers will be kicked out with extreme prejudice. Members of hostile (gallente and minmatar) militias or navies will be shot. |

Cipher7
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
60
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:28:00 -
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Takin it on the chin for ya beliefs eh?
I tink you should lock your door. |

Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
2723
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:32:00 -
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"Leaving your door open" in the secure capsuleer area of a station where baseliners can't enter anyway is an entirely empty guesture - nothing will happen to you. You actually want to do something to help the people of the State?
Say you're sorry. Mane 614
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Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
954
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:23:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:"Leaving your door open" in the secure capsuleer area of a station where baseliners can't enter anyway is an entirely empty guesture - nothing will happen to you. You actually want to do something to help the people of the State?
Say you're sorry. Leave her alone, you vulture. She just did. |

Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
2723
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:40:00 -
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Scherezad wrote:Leave her alone, you vulture. She just did. There isn't a shred of apology in this post. There's only an invitation to enact revenge fantasies. Mane 614
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
476
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:13:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:(*) My offer is valid only for citizens of the State. Pity.
I hope you're not acting out of self-destructive impulses.
Peace,
-Ch+¬
Nightmares - A short story by Ch+¬ Biko |

Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
956
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:30:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Scherezad wrote:Leave her alone, you vulture. She just did. There isn't a shred of apology in this post. There's only an invitation to enact revenge fantasies. Stop talking and learn to listen. |

Aquila Shadow
BetaMax. CRONOS.
176
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:10:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/tibus-heths-yanala-speech-cut-short-by-riot/
Quote:New Caldari GÇô Speaking for the first time since Caldari Navy Executive Officer Mininela Erinen testified that he forced Admiral Visera Yanala to undergo the Tea Maker Ceremony, a harried Tibus Heth attempted to apologize for and defend his actions. Before he could finish, the assembled crowd broke into a riot and forced Heth off stage. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "Let Vigilance Be Your Sword" |

Zsaryna Adrelana
The Phantom Regiment THE ROYAL NAVY
79
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:18:00 -
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well this is a rather worrying turn of events. I hope that stability will return to the State, one way or the other.
This statement is not representative of official tRN policy and merely constitutes the drunken ramblings of a junior diplo. My alt has two Gnosis, how does he smell?Awful. |

Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Tribal Band
991
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:51:00 -
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In other news, Diana Kin was brutally murdered before her time by a mob of angered anti- provist after announcing her location and leaving her doors wide open. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10656
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:07:00 -
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The people have a right to be angry; but, the investigation has not yet concluded. Let us first condemn Heth before he is punished, if that is to be our course. We are civilized; we are Caldari. This is not our way. Those of you responding in favor of the riots are more akin to my brethren in the Goonswarm Federation than you are to the ideals of the State. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
2731
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:17:00 -
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So you're attempting to appeal to the better natures of people by drawing a comparison to a group of people who actively and eagerly encourage humanity's worst excesses - by whom you are also currently employed? Mane 614
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10657
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:22:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:So you're attempting to appeal to the better natures of people by drawing a comparison to a group of people who actively and eagerly encourage humanity's worst excesses - by whom you are also currently employed? Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Let us observe due process. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Naraish Adarn
Fastfood for Fishies
44
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:23:00 -
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I'll wait for CEP's decision on the matter untill then i have given Kim-haani everything she might need after she's at an end of current path. i wish her luck on this journey may she find her truth. |

Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
2731
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:28:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Let us observe due process. No, please don't mistake me; I'm not in any way saying that I disagree with you. In fact, I agree with you in the utmost - there's no reason for good, honest people to get hurt on Heth's account, because far too many have been already.
I'm just commenting that there's a little bit of a conflict of interest here. Mane 614
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10657
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:28:00 -
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Naraish Adarn wrote:I'll wait for CEP's decision on the matter untill then i have given Kim-haani everything she might need after she's at an end of current path. i wish her luck on this journey may she find her truth. I, too, eagerly await the Chief Executive Panel's decision on the matter: not the Federation Senate's; not the Caldari Providence Directive's; not Tibus Heth's; not Diana Kim's; nor that of any other person or group. This matter is being properly investigated by the legitimate authority of the Caldari State, and any well meaning interference on the part of either Provist or anti-Provist loyalists would merely muddy the matter more than it already is.
I urge all citizens, capsuleer or otherwise, to be patient and observe due process. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10657
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:30:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Ad hominem will get you nowhere. Let us observe due process. No, please don't mistake me; I'm not in any way saying that I disagree with you. In fact, I agree with you in the utmost - there's no reason for good, honest people to get hurt on Heth's account, because far too many have been already. I'm just commenting that there's a little bit of a conflict of interest here. There is no such conflict.
I would be happy to discuss any particulars of my arrangements in some other venue so as not to derail this thread. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Seriphyn Inhonores
Destiny Foundation
504
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:38:00 -
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Rulers can, and should, be removed peaceably. Fairness demands it, no matter the individual. |

Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
2731
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:59:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:Rulers can, and should, be removed peaceably. Should, yes. Can? Not always. But that remains to be seen. Mane 614
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
472
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Posted - 2013.05.27 18:19:00 -
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I wonder what immunities before the law the Executor has. By all accounts, he has admitted to murder -- couched in tradition, surely, but driven by rage and haste. While Heth may espouse Caldari virtue, he lacks circumspection, patience, and level-headedness.
I await the CEP's judgment in this matter. |

Julianus Soter
Moira. Villore Accords
155
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Posted - 2013.05.28 05:52:00 -
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Unfortunately, no matter how angry certain people will be, even the CEP is powerless before the laws of Finance. The Megacorporations are broke, and heavily in debt to the Empire. They cannot depose Heth and stop the bloodshed with the Federation without having these long-forgotten financial instruments triggering; thereby crippling the State for the next decade.
Heth will remain, and the war will continue. Much to everyone's dissatisfaction, everyone besides Jamyl the First. |

Drake Arson
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
19
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:04:00 -
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i wonder if i am invited... |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
473
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:10:00 -
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Mr. Soter; the Megacorporations are broke? Kaalakiota Corporation has had some liquidity issues of late due to their support of the Providence Directorate. Aside from KK, though, do you have any evidence of the remainder...? I would love to be corrected, of course; I fully acknowledge there are gaps in my knowledge of events over the past few years. |

Arthas Romanov
Blitzkrieg. Insidious Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:18:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Quote:The Citadel GÇô Soon after news of Caldari Navy Executive Officer Mininela Erinen's testimony about Admiral Yanala's death was released, several memorial services for the war hero suddenly turned into impromptu protests as people called for answers from State Executor Tibus Heth. Several of the protests subsequently turned violent, when demonstrators clashed with Provist forces. So far, no deaths have been reported, though hundreds have been reported as injured.
Into the morning, Caldari citizens have continued to react with disbelief and anger to the news. Said one protestor who works for Lai Dai, GÇ£Tibus Heth must give an accounting of himself. He can't sit silent in his iron tower and expect us to accept this. Admiral Yanala was a hero and he cannot simply expect us to forget about this.GÇ¥
Others have reacted with slightly greater reservation. Said a middle manager from Hyasyoda, GÇ£We've only heard one side of the story. Obviously if true it's horrible. But anyone who is rioting is just participating in a mob mentality. There's no proof about what she's said. It's her word against the State Executor's. We must wait for the CEP to finish their investigation.GÇ¥ http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/vigils-for-yanala-turn-violent/I guess it is hard for citizens in space to find provists sometimes. And thus I would like to ask you to not harass any State workers and security. There are other ways to release your anger. I believe that only those, who actually did something should accept consequences. Thus I am leaving my quarters(*) door unlocked for anyone(**), who wants to say or do something to provist supporters. (*) Those, who can't find my quarters by themselves, I recommend looking for "Diana Kim Quarters" in their neocom. (**) My offer is valid only for citizens of the State. All other trespassers will be kicked out with extreme prejudice. Members of hostile (gallente and minmatar) militias or navies will be shot.
I did enjoy our talk Kim. Do keep in contact sometime. The facism of the state can only be cleansed from within. |

Shintoko Akahoshi
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
111
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:50:00 -
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Arthas Romanov wrote: I did enjoy our talk Kim. Do keep in contact sometime.
According to the latest medical reports, Kim-haani has survived your little talk and will recover. And a certain StateSec Officer Kalla is interested in speaking with you. Bio and writing |

Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
119
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:30:00 -
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Julianus Soter wrote:Unfortunately, no matter how angry certain people will be, even the CEP is powerless before the laws of Finance. The Megacorporations are broke, and heavily in debt to the Empire. They cannot depose Heth and stop the bloodshed with the Federation without having these long-forgotten financial instruments triggering; thereby crippling the State for the next decade.
Heth will remain, and the war will continue. Much to everyone's dissatisfaction, everyone besides Jamyl the First. They are hardly "broke." Perhaps you should leave the laws of finance to us? And destroying the illegal office of the Executor and all its component parts will have no effect on repayment of loans or our relations with the Amarr -- unlike the Gallente, they do not feel the need to meddle constantly in the internal affairs of their allies. We will take care of our house, and when we are done, the State will be strong once more -- hardly bad for their investment.
As far as the war with the Federation goes, I am not aware that the CAESA was dependent on ongoing hostilities with the Federation -- on the other hand, since you and your compatriots seem to still want to tell us how to conduct our affairs, it does not seem like we are the ones who are still pursuing this war. You and the Senate should learn the value of being quiet if you wish for peace -- do you think you did Admiral Yanala a great many favors declaring her a Gallente war hero? No matter how many times the Caldari try to teach you this lesson, you never can seem to get it. |

Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
480
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Posted - 2013.05.28 21:00:00 -
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Shintoko Akahoshi wrote:According to the latest medical reports, Kim-haani has survived your little talk and will recover. Hmm. So it was not just words that were exchanged?
Nightmares - A short story by Ch+¬ Biko |

Arthas Romanov
Blitzkrieg. Insidious Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.28 21:36:00 -
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Che Biko wrote:Shintoko Akahoshi wrote:According to the latest medical reports, Kim-haani has survived your little talk and will recover. Hmm. So it was not just words that were exchanged?
Lets just say she could not see the light, nor walk in gods glory. As for this Kalla....Come and find me.
God bless the Caldari State!! The facism of the state can only be cleansed from within. |

Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
2756
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:33:00 -
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... what happened? Mane 614
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
486
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:07:00 -
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Word is Romanov tried to murder Kim, left her to bleed to death. Nightmares - A short story by Ch+¬ Biko |
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