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bassie12bf1
Militaris Industries
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:39:00 -
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At the time of the TiDi it would have appeared that an alliance staging point in aridia was on the same node as amarr and that's likely gonna cause problems (fleet undocks always generates TiDi) |
Amseln deBrabant
Ochsenbruegger
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:43:00 -
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CCP Veritas wrote:
In any case, Amarr likely should be on its own node, but the loadbalancer isn't doing that right now. We'll likely need to correct that.
just an info, since two weeks or so, there seem to be randomly systems on TIDi. Sometimes with not more than 20 ppl in local and nothing happening. it happend in high sec and low sec as well (Gallente space with FW low sec systems in Black Rise). |
Lexmana
960
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:45:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:CCP Veritas wrote:I just found the pair of replies rather delicious, since you were guessing at the status of Dodixie on the cluster as a foundation of your earlier argument.
In any case, Amarr likely should be on its own node, but the loadbalancer isn't doing that right now. We'll likely need to correct that. Fair enough, and I (very much) appreciate your candor even if my derision is not necessarily fully on target. If I am incorrect in my assessment, I fully entertain being corrected by someone in authority who can provide specific details.
But you can just go on pulling things from your xxx .. because thats what you do right? |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:51:00 -
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Super spikinator wrote:We have been waiting for this day. With the possibility of Amarr being moved to its own little blade, Amarr now counts as a trade hub. It gives me warm fuzzies.
You know you've "arrived" as a trade hub when local starts to fill with scammers.  |
Charlie Jacobson
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Posted - 2013.05.28 07:04:00 -
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But TiDi is fun, guys! Everything is all slowmotionlike and stuff. |
Axel Kurki
Aseyakone
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Posted - 2013.05.28 09:23:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Super spikinator wrote:We have been waiting for this day. With the possibility of Amarr being moved to its own little blade, Amarr now counts as a trade hub. It gives me warm fuzzies. You know you've "arrived" as a trade hub when local starts to fill with scammers.
Jita at least occasionnally overflows and some of the scammers get sent to neighbouring systems. And then some have started to migrate and come spam nearby systems with a high amount of players in them. |
March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
694
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Posted - 2013.05.28 10:33:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Why do you highseccers gotta complain about time dilation at 82%? It is not uncommon that we nullseccers experience it at 30% or lower.
you have chosen 0.0 sec blobs and TiDi
highseccers have chosen high-sec and no lags
this is the difference |
Kristopher Rocancourt
Alpha Sleepers
124
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:47:00 -
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the gas clouds around station contribute to this and causes TIDI at lower pop #'s than Jita
Proud member of MYM8 Jita Police.
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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
1145
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:22:00 -
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Does this mean we will soon see a "Burn Amarr" ? 
As I see it in terms of business and commerce, Jita = New York, Dodixie = Hong Kong, Amarr = London.
Which means that in New York we have TiDi, in Dodixie we have TaDa, in London we have ToDo.
Look, it's being a long day, I'm still at the office and my brain is fried.
SoSuMe. (RIP Steve Jobs)
o7
Personnel Division Director --áBene Gesserit Chapterhouse
"The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another." - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1364
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:51:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Why do you highseccers gotta complain about time dilation at 82%? It is not uncommon that we nullseccers experience it at 30% or lower.
...yes, yes it is. Blob fights like that don't occur daily, and then nullseccers live in systems that barely hit more than 10 people at a time.
Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
That was over four and a half years ago...
Yep, but the basic topology has not changed much as far as I know. I suggested the devblog because a number of people were attempting to stroke their IT epeens. |
Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.28 13:12:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:CCP Veritas wrote:Doc Fury wrote:The fact that you guys don't already have the other trade hubs on dedicated hardware is laughable. Dodixie and Amarr especially so. I submit this in reply: Doc Fury wrote:Since you are guessing, please get back to me when you are 100% certain and thus capable to comment. Then please enlighten us with the specifics of your server pron as relates to this specific issue, and how you have our backs in terms of resource allocation.
I fully agree with Doc here. As a paying customer, I think I have the right to ask some questions when there's the possibility of there being a problem that may probably be allegedly concerning stuff. However, in my case, I would like to know if you use coloured wires on your servers. If that's the case, I would like you to report on what proportion of cabling is colour coded. While you may think this unreasonable, I suspect that any potential time dilation problems are correlated to the ratio of coloured to non-coloured cabling and I would like to be reassured that CCP is going to commit to replacing all standard white or grey cabling in the future in order to sort out the issues.
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
187
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:03:00 -
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Amseln deBrabant wrote:CCP Veritas wrote:
In any case, Amarr likely should be on its own node, but the loadbalancer isn't doing that right now. We'll likely need to correct that.
just an info, since two weeks or so, there seem to be randomly systems on TIDi. Sometimes with not more than 20 ppl in local and nothing happening. it happend in high sec and low sec as well (Gallente space with FW low sec systems in Black Rise).
That happens due to other systems on the same server being busy. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
99
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:49:00 -
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CCP Veritas wrote:We might need to give the load balancer some *subtle hints* if this continues. I'll keep an eye on it.
At which point will techniques similar to 'hourglassing' no longer be used to mask infrastructure performance issues, and the need for a dynamic resource allocating architecture be pursued within CCP?
You can do lipstick-on-a-pig UI stuff like TiDi to hide server performance issues, 24-hour notice to have a re-enforce node set up, or gate-jump animations (which are oh so sexy) to hide the slowness in jumping from system to system as subs increase...but at which point is CCP going to bite the bullet and and fix the core issue of an archicture that isn't truly dynamic resource allocating?
So far I am seeing just UI gimmicks (like the Windows hourglass and Mac spinning rainbow wheel to keep the user entertained visually) rather than fixing root infra scaling issues?
http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca |
Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:43:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:CCP Veritas wrote:We might need to give the load balancer some *subtle hints* if this continues. I'll keep an eye on it. At which point will techniques similar to 'hourglassing' no longer be used to mask infrastructure performance issues, and the need for a dynamic resource allocating architecture be pursued within CCP? You can do lipstick-on-a-pig UI stuff like TiDi to hide server performance issues, 24-hour notice to have a re-enforce node set up, or gate-jump animations (which are oh so sexy) to hide the slowness in jumping from system to system as subs increase...but at which point is CCP going to bite the bullet and and fix the core issue of an archicture that isn't truly dynamic resource allocating? So far I am seeing just UI gimmicks (like the Windows hourglass and Mac spinning rainbow wheel to keep the user entertained visually) rather than fixing root infra scaling issues?
I'm pretty sure they got a team dedicated to working on it, the fact you're not seeing immediate results doesn't mean they are just sitting in the park enjoying the weather while drinking some beer doing nothing.
And TiDi is not lipstick-on-a-pig, it masivly decreases the ammount of crashes, black screens and disconnects casued by sudden server load.
Sure it's a bit of drying the floor with the plumbing still broken but it decreases the many issues people had untill they can properly fix and improve the servers and their code.
the 24 notice is because they can only reinforce the nodes by off lining the system, transferring it to the better server and then onlining it again.
Which can only be done during downtime.
Occasionally you see them off lining the surrounding systems and throwing those on separate hardware quickly so the busy system gets the entire server for itself.
And the Gate animations are done by a diffrent team, tough they decrease loading times as a side effect.
They are fixing the code and improving their servers, just because you don't see results now doesn't mean they aren't doing anything at all. |
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