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Spaced Skunk	Posted - 2005.10.28 11:05:00 - [1] I recently got the skills to fly these great ships. So far I have lost 2, one to a wolf (did explosive damage, nothing I could do really), and the second to a cerberus while I was doing a complex :/. I know these ships have great PVP potention, ecspecially against hybrid turret ships. So far I have this setup: 3 X 125MM II 1 X Small 'ghoul' NOS 1 X 1MN AB II 1 X Langour webber 1 X Fleeting Disrupter 1 X small rep II 1 X Adaptive Energized Plating (12 days till t2) 1 X Overdive And of course many light drones (mix between EM and explosive) I have been told blaster setups are quite effective as well, but dont like the idea of MWD's, as my cap skills are not really that sufficient. Any ideas for solo PVP? I know the limit of this ship, dont fight minmatar :)
Bodhisattvas	Posted - 2005.10.28 11:56:00 - [2] Just got one of these myselfs. Not my setup, I grabbed it elsewhere, but I agree its hot 2 X 75mm T2 Gattling - 2 Nos MWD T2 - Web - Scram 200mm Plate - PDU - Small Repairer T2 Mix of light drones. Cap is not an issue most of the time cause of the 2 nos. MwD gets you in to range quick(ish). plate gives you over 1k armour. PDU enables me to fit the plate... don't need the aux. If you do, swap it. The guns can hit out to 20k if needed (iron). That plus the drones can annoy ceptors who try to out range you. That is all.
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.10.28 11:58:00 - [3] the meds are ok, but try out the standart plated vampkur setup: 2x T2 75mm rails 2x nossies T2 200mm plate CPR T2 small repper ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
Spaced Skunk	Posted - 2005.10.28 12:04:00 - [4] 75MM guns, seems like a low damage output setup though. 2 small nos if good for other frigs/intys/assualt but what about cruisers?
R31D	Posted - 2005.10.28 12:05:00 - [5] Edited by: R31D on 28/10/2005 12:06:41 Originally by: Grimpak the meds are ok, but try out the standart plated vampkur setup: 2x T2 75mm rails 2x nossies T2 200mm plate CPR T2 small repper I'm 99% sure that won't fit, you need an MAPC instead of the CPR. My fit is similar to these, but I use Ion Blasters instead. Most of the time you need to get under 5,500m to stand a chance (nos range) and so you might as well fit blasters and considerably improve your damage. I've tried 75mm and found that they are very flexible, but I still prefer the extra damage of blasters edit: So my setup is: 2x Ion blasters 2x small nos 1x mwd 1x web 1x 7.5k scrambler 1x small rep 1x MAPC 1x 200mm plate Free bumpage for all
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.10.28 12:09:00 - [6] Edited by: Grimpak on 28/10/2005 12:09:55 Originally by: R31D Edited by: R31D on 28/10/2005 12:07:27 Originally by: Grimpak the meds are ok, but try out the standart plated vampkur setup: 2x T2 75mm rails 2x nossies T2 200mm plate CPR T2 small repper I'm 99% sure that won't fit, you need an MAPC instead of the CPR. My fit is similar to these, but I use Ion Blasters instead. Most of the time you need to get under 5,500m to stand a chance (nos range) and so you might as well fit blasters and considerably improve your damage. I've tried 75mm and found that they are very flexible, but I still prefer the extra damage of blasters edit: So my setup is: 2x Ion blasters 2x small nos 1x mwd 1x web 1x 7.5k scrambler 1x small rep 1x MAPC 1x 200mm plate it fits. I had that setup. AB instead mwd btw, and a 20km scrammer (points out to the OP setup) edit: and yes, adv. wep upgrades are thy friend. ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
franny	Posted - 2005.10.28 12:37:00 - [7] for the 2 * 75mm T2, 2 * sml nos setups with the AB, a CPR fits with the MWD you need a PDU or MAPC unless maybe if you have adv weapon upgrades 5(I didn't check the math that high, I only have adv 2)
Psykoman	Posted - 2005.10.28 13:00:00 - [8] Edited by: Psykoman on 28/10/2005 13:01:09 Hi : 3x light neutron II / 1x small nos Med : 1x ab II / 1x web / 1x scrambler Low : 1x small repi II / 1x MAPC / 1x CPR or Energized Membrane or Mag Stab or Nanofiber or something :p + drones
Grimwalius d'Antan	Posted - 2005.10.28 13:18:00 - [9] Why oh why are you wasting a low slot on an overdrive? I'd drop a turret for an extra Nos. I've taken the upper hand against a Wolf in a friendly fight once using two Nosses and a couple of 75mm II and an MWD (jamesw style).
Motaka	Posted - 2005.10.28 14:50:00 - [10] Hi : 3x light neutron II / 1x small diminishing NOS Med : 1x ab II / 1x fleeting web / 1x 7.5km scrambler Low : 1x small accomodation / 1x MAPC / 1x Energized Membrane PG 65.00 / 65.00
R31D	Posted - 2005.10.28 15:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Motaka Hi : 3x light neutron II / 1x small diminishing NOS Med : 1x ab II / 1x fleeting web / 1x 7.5km scrambler Low : 1x small accomodation / 1x MAPC / 1x Energized Membrane PG 65.00 / 65.00 Do you find this setup can close quick enough on enemies? foundf that to use blasters well, you really need to stick a MWD onto the Ishkur Free bumpage for all
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2005.10.28 15:12:00 - [12] Originally by: Bodhisattvas Just got one of these myselfs. Not my setup, I grabbed it elsewhere, but I agree its hot 2 X 75mm T2 Gattling - 2 Nos MWD T2 - Web - Scram 200mm Plate - PDU - Small Repairer T2 Cosmic Fusion KB
Tadis	Posted - 2005.10.28 15:59:00 - [13] Originally by: DrunkenOne Originally by: Bodhisattvas Just got one of these myselfs. Not my setup, I grabbed it elsewhere, but I agree its hot 2 X 75mm T2 Gattling - 2 Nos MWD T2 - Web - Scram 200mm Plate - PDU - Small Repairer T2 hehe Mr set-up strikes again! :p
Kuningatar	Posted - 2005.10.28 16:03:00 - [14] Edited by: Kuningatar on 28/10/2005 16:02:50 wots better 75mm or light ion
R31D	Posted - 2005.10.28 16:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Kuningatar Edited by: Kuningatar on 28/10/2005 16:02:50 wots better 75mm or light ion 75mm are more versatile and you will be able to keep hitting whether your opponent is long range or close range. They also allow you to fit antimatter and have the same range as your nos, which is just outside blaster range. Ion Blasters are riskier to fit but do a LOT more damage, a trade off which I think is worth it, others don't. Free bumpage for all
Moridan	Posted - 2005.10.28 17:51:00 - [16] I scrapped the MWD for a AB and fit 125s over 75mm. Why? MWD speed is crap, and with a web, you loose any real advantage you had with 75mm gats. don't take on a cruiser with an ishkur tho. "Speak quietly and carry a big torpedo."
R31D	Posted - 2005.10.28 20:48:00 - [17] Originally by: Moridan I scrapped the MWD for a AB and fit 125s over 75mm. Why? MWD speed is crap, and with a web, you loose any real advantage you had with 75mm gats. don't take on a cruiser with an ishkur tho. Apart from caracals with heavy launchers, they go down easily enough Free bumpage for all
Bodhisattvas	Posted - 2005.10.28 21:52:00 - [18] Originally by: Moridan don't take on a cruiser with an ishkur tho. Today is my first attempt using the ishkur, and I killed a Ferox and a Vigilant (faction Cruiser).. so you can certainly go against em. Of course, nothing is for certain, depends of setups and skills... Nice ship :)
Bodhisattvas	Posted - 2005.10.28 21:56:00 - [19] Oh yeah.. I just missed scrambling a caracal with a AB setup (was in complex just before), but would've had him with MWD... Shame
danneh	Posted - 2005.10.29 00:44:00 - [20] Originally by: Grimpak the meds are ok, but try out the standart plated vampkur setup: 2x T2 75mm rails 2x nossies T2 200mm plate CPR T2 small repper I have blasters instead of the 75mm on mine.
Spaced Skunk	Posted - 2005.10.29 11:40:00 - [21] Ok I tested the 75MM and was surprised, I really like the setup. Further more suprised by the tank provided by the 200MM T2 plate. :) Oh and you can kill cruisers with the ishkur quite easily, providing they dont do explosive damage...
Bodhisattvas	Posted - 2005.10.29 12:26:00 - [22] Originally by: Spaced Skunk Ok I tested the 75MM and was surprised, I really like the setup. Further more suprised by the tank provided by the 200MM T2 plate. :) Oh and you can kill cruisers with the ishkur quite easily, providing they dont do explosive damage... The tank must be pretty good as I forgot I was flagged and warped to stargate. Then my GF started talking to me, and it took me a few seconds to realise the sentry fire.... but still managed to warp back out with 97% structure left
Meeko Gloom	Posted - 2005.10.29 15:06:00 - [23] I will be flying one next week and i was thinking of using 3 ion II (anti-matter) 1 nos or Cloaking if i wanted to hunt someone MVD Webby 7.5 jammer armor Repairer II cap relay Armor Hardener 5 med drones (thermal dam) ________________________________________________ Pls Dont Flame Me Cuz I DONT Give A **** Demons of Razgis
Ante	Posted - 2005.10.29 17:36:00 - [24] Haven't really used an ishkur before... but as a suggestion 2x 75mm gatling railgun II 2x small nos 1mn ab 20km disruptor (?) weapon disruptor t2 small rep 200mm tungsten mapc No idea if it fits but that would work pretty well I would have thought. Maybe not so well against interceptors but against just about anything else it might do ok. Somebody test it out tell us how they went?
R31D	Posted - 2005.10.29 17:41:00 - [25] Originally by: Ante Haven't really used an ishkur before... but as a suggestion 2x 75mm gatling railgun II 2x small nos 1mn ab 20km disruptor (?) weapon disruptor t2 small rep 200mm tungsten mapc No idea if it fits but that would work pretty well I would have thought. Maybe not so well against interceptors but against just about anything else it might do ok. Somebody test it out tell us how they went? Main problem is that a 20km is a big cap sucker for a frig and your nos need to be within 5,500m so you might as well save the CPU and cap (and scramble for more points) by using a 7.5km scrambler. Tracking disruptor is useful, but I'd fit a web so anyhting you do get within nos/gun range stays there. Just my thoughts Free bumpage for all

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