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BoSau Hotim
Whale Whatchers
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Posted - 2013.05.30 07:30:00 -
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Bexar Ying wrote:BoSau Hotim wrote:if you don't understand the 'why" behind getting a random bounty on you.. then you don't understand EvE.
Well, I think I understand about 40% of Eve, but the majority of the players may as well be from Mars.
Whatever the parameters that have been put into place by CCP are the parameters that anyone can play within. ( barring those who find a way around them (Exploits)) So, within that framework, the sky (or space, in this case) is the limit. Having fun is what the game is about as far as I'm concerned, and if you can have fun doing crazy random things.. why not?
I think some players make the mistake of thinking that there are unwritten rules that other players should live by in this game. If players don't live by these so called 'unspoken' rules then they are bad people and suddenly what was just a fun game gets very personal and the conservative player thinks it is unfair and CCP should do something about it.
CCP was the one who designed this game so these 'unspoken' rules can be broken or never adhered to at all. That is part of the appeal and fun of this game.
Some industrialists such as ship builders and miners, and mission runners complain about hi-sec shenanigans thinking that hi-sec should be a no-risk zone and that bumping, ganking, looting, extorting, and the like should not be allowed. But in the real world is there any place that similar things can't happen? To me CCP has been doing a great job at creating a world that would be similar as if it were real.
But that's just my opinion :)
*GLOMP* with your AltGäó-á |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Home Front Coalition
476
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Posted - 2013.05.30 09:10:00 -
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Bexar Ying wrote:Tippia wrote:Bexar Ying wrote:I intended to. Waste all the ISK you have on me, and I win. Too late; they already won. You know I don't like you, but, for some reason, your posts stand out How have ' they' won? I do the same things I did last week, and last month. Progress has not been impeded. 'They' on the other hand, have ISK tied up in escrow. Or somewhere. Why? Why not use it for something productive?
Coming from a hisec industrial character, I will have to ask you what do you consider productive actions. You could say actions that end up in profit are productive, but the same could be said about actions that cause loss or aggravate your enemies. What you consider productive behaviour may very well seem a useless grind to someone playing the sandbox with another angle.
By placing a bounty on your head someone motivated you to respond in the jumpy manner you do right now: they have won because you did exactly what GD deems the objective if the player placing that bounty: to pull your strings and make you cry on the forums on how unfair the bounty system is, thereby reinforcing the idea hisec is full of greedy, risk-averse players.
Bountying hisec players causes enough forum drama to be a productive form of propaganda for low- or nullsec styles of gameplay. This topic illustrates nicely how quick some hisec players are to complain on the forums once confronted with gameplay elements outside of their grindhouse of safety. Since my corp benefits from people growing an interest outside of hisec (more members + more enemies = more pew pew) I'd say it was ISK well spent. |
Riot Girl
Thundercats
The Initiative.
959
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Posted - 2013.05.30 09:36:00 -
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Bounties are basically insignificant. They're just a small bonus to PvP but I don't think they're worth pursuing.
Oh god. |
Doddy
Dark-Rising
848
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Posted - 2013.05.30 09:49:00 -
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Zak Breen wrote:Charlie Jacobson wrote:Zak Breen wrote: EVE players aren't the nicest. I strongly disagree there. Out of all the online game communities I've been in (I've played all kinds of multiplayer games), the EVE community has been the most well mannered and helpful in general. There are always exceptions, but off the top of my head I can't really think of any other game where I've had as many pleasant conversations with my victims or aggressors after a fight/encounter as I have in EVE. You have every right to disagree but I don't know of any other game where scamming and griefing are legit "careers". It's frowned upon, if not outright prohibited, in most other games.
Many games allow people to kill each other, how sick is that. Clearly people playing those games are "not the nicest" too huh. Or do you just have difficulty differentating games from rl?
Seriously how people can make judgement calls about peoples morals from the fact they steal in a game where almost everyone is a mass murderer is beyond me. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
9658
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:07:00 -
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Bexar Ying wrote:Ok. I complained about bounties.
My bounty went from 100k to 25 Mil that night.
This is a research and manufacturing character, and hasn't been out of HiSec for maybe a year. She fliesr rookie ships.
What is the point?
Please, run it up. It's your ISK after all.
Working as intended.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
9658
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:10:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:GreenSeed wrote:bounties that go unclaimed after a month or so should be "moved up", and get applied to the whatever group the player is part of. all ways to the biggest instance. say, a player is a member of a corp within an alliance, then the bounty should go to the alliance.
that all that really needs to be changed. bounties are not a death sentence, its not a kill contract. its merely an incentive, or extra reward to whoever kills the bountie'd person and its s shame seeing it go to waste if that person never puts the bounty at risk of being claimed.
that said, eve needs kill contracts. The "move up "is an interesting idea.
Sounds like an easy way to scrape off bounties.
1 Kings 12:11
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Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
Hegemonous Pandorum
176
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:00:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:None ofthe Above wrote:GreenSeed wrote:bounties that go unclaimed after a month or so should be "moved up", and get applied to the whatever group the player is part of. all ways to the biggest instance. say, a player is a member of a corp within an alliance, then the bounty should go to the alliance.
that all that really needs to be changed. bounties are not a death sentence, its not a kill contract. its merely an incentive, or extra reward to whoever kills the bountie'd person and its s shame seeing it go to waste if that person never puts the bounty at risk of being claimed.
that said, eve needs kill contracts. The "move up "is an interesting idea. Sounds like an easy way to scrape off bounties.
If only it would "move up" onto npc corps. The tears harvested by that would make the shadow in the warp feel little. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
9664
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:26:00 -
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Eh, it's not like you can't bounty NPC corp members now.
1 Kings 12:11
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
4552
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:29:00 -
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Bexar Ying wrote:What is the point?
troll. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:32:00 -
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Robus Muvila wrote:Doc Severide wrote:Bounties are incredibly stupid...
Go ahead and waste your ISK on me. This is a non training chat alt that never undocks... I never understood why people do that. Do you really think you would show up on anyone's radar THAT much that you need to wear a bag over your head?
That's not it at all. I play solo but like to chat occasionally. So I have a few alts just for chatting. It really has nothing to do with the bounties...and I get bounties sometimes just for chatting... |
Zak Breen
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:57:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Many games allow people to kill each other, how sick is that. Clearly people playing those games are "not the nicest" too huh. Or do you just have difficulty differentating games from rl?
Seriously how people can make judgement calls about peoples morals from the fact they steal in a game where almost everyone is a mass murderer is beyond me.
If someone scams, steals, or otherwise deceives a person for their own gain then yes, I'll judge them. Problem with it? I don't care in the least.
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of not knowing.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
9670
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:06:00 -
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Zak Breen wrote:Doddy wrote:Many games allow people to kill each other, how sick is that. Clearly people playing those games are "not the nicest" too huh. Or do you just have difficulty differentating games from rl?
Seriously how people can make judgement calls about peoples morals from the fact they steal in a game where almost everyone is a mass murderer is beyond me. If someone scams, steals, or otherwise deceives a person for their own gain then yes, I'll judge them. Problem with it? I don't care in the least.
So you think poker players with weak hands who bluff other players into folding are immoral lying stealing scum?
What about a football player who deceives an opposing tackler into thinking he's going to break left, but then he actually breaks right? Scammer?
1 Kings 12:11
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Doddy
Dark-Rising
850
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:56:00 -
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Zak Breen wrote:Doddy wrote:Many games allow people to kill each other, how sick is that. Clearly people playing those games are "not the nicest" too huh. Or do you just have difficulty differentating games from rl?
Seriously how people can make judgement calls about peoples morals from the fact they steal in a game where almost everyone is a mass murderer is beyond me. If someone scams, steals, or otherwise deceives a person for their own gain then yes, I'll judge them. Problem with it? I don't care in the least.
I am pretty sure that moral compass makes you a sociopath
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Doddy
Dark-Rising
850
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:58:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Zak Breen wrote:Doddy wrote:Many games allow people to kill each other, how sick is that. Clearly people playing those games are "not the nicest" too huh. Or do you just have difficulty differentating games from rl?
Seriously how people can make judgement calls about peoples morals from the fact they steal in a game where almost everyone is a mass murderer is beyond me. If someone scams, steals, or otherwise deceives a person for their own gain then yes, I'll judge them. Problem with it? I don't care in the least. What about a football player who deceives an opposing tackler into thinking he's going to break left, but then he actually breaks right? Scammer?
He would be fine with it if he pulled out a machette though. |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
33
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:59:00 -
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Zak Breen wrote:
If someone scams, steals, or otherwise deceives a person for their own gain then yes, I'll judge them. Problem with it? I don't care in the least.
On noes scary impotent man is going to judge me and not care if I dont care!
Know what? I don't care if you don't care and neither does anyone else lol.
"You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
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Haulie Berry
818
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Posted - 2013.05.30 20:00:00 -
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Bexar Ying wrote:I just don't understand. Placing bounties on Hi Sec dwellers? Why?
Why?
Because it obviously bugs the **** out of you.
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