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Samuel Triptee
Crescent Rising Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.30 20:26:00 -
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I wanted to share an observation before I lose the perspective of being a new player.
Defining success in Eve can be a stumbling block for those of us who are new players.
There is no end goal, no mission to complete, no boss to defeat, no skill level to achieve, no amount of in-game currency that saysGǪ GÇ£youGÇÖve made itGǪ game overGÇ¥. In addition, it is very difficult to measure one player against another. For example, you could have a 5 year old market trader, worth billions of ISK, decide to visit a different region. So, he hops in his shuttle and promptly gets blown out of the sky by a 2 week old pirate with barely enough ISK to buy a replacement ship. Who is the better player?
Your success in Eve must be measured against your own ambitions.
IGÇÖve found there are three steps to success in Eve.
1.Decide what you want to do.
2.Figure out how to do it.
3.Do it.
As I've played the last few months I've taken those 3 steps over and over. It's been fun.
Congratulations to CCP and the Eve Community for the creation of and vigilance in maintaining a great piece of virtual reality.
Much more could be added to this topic and I struggled to keep it new player friendly. I did try searching for something specific along these lines, but the idea was always mixed in with other topics and never simply stated. My apologies if this has been stated before. Just hoping this helps someone new to the game. |
Steffanie Saissore
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.30 20:30:00 -
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I've been playing for almost a month now...I am still getting a feel for things and at the moment have taken a similar approach. It is not like any other MMO I've played before and during the first week or so it was rather overwhelming trying to get a sense of "what am I supposed to do". I've turned that around to "what DO I want to do" and I'm having a lot more fun now.
"When we are young, wandering the face of the Earth, wondering what our dreams might be worth, learning that we're only immortal for a limited time." |
Albionsblade Parry
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2013.05.30 20:42:00 -
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I do have to agree also if someone stets a bar and achieves it there is then the challenge of keeping it with all the other players nipping at their heels. This is a dynamic system and no one will stay at the top forever. |
Irina Minkova
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.30 20:53:00 -
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I was introduced to this game a little less than a month ago by a friend of mine who had been playing for about 3 months. He and I always have friendly competitions, and he said I would never be able to "catch up to him" because in EVE, training is real time.
He taught me what he knew about mining and sent me on my way. I have since gathered my own information about tons of different aspects of this game, and once I get where I want to be in industry, I will be very happy. I've set a pretty long term goal for myself and every day that goes by I can see the progress. It's pretty great. Catching up to my friend isn't really something that I want to do because we have different end goals. |
Tyrendian Biohazard
Terra Rosa Militia
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.30 21:01:00 -
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Steffanie Saissore wrote: it was rather overwhelming trying to get a sense of "what am I supposed to do". I've turned that around to "what DO I want to do" and I'm having a lot more fun now.
Exactly what I tell new players on my stream. It really can make or break your experience with Eve.
My twitch stream to help new players:
http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51 |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.30 21:45:00 -
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if you find yourself writing a thread like this, you might actually have beaten EVE... 
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Xuixien
Elysium Dominion
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Posted - 2013.05.30 22:04:00 -
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This is why I just roll my eyes whenever the tryhad ~ELITEPVPERS~ go on about killboards and fits and all that nonsense.
If you're doing what you want to do and accomplishing what you want to accomplish, you've won, even if someone blows your ship up.
Everyone vs Everyone
Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |
Lord Battlestar
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE
Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:38:00 -
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This is a post that every new player is Eve should read. So many get bored because from the beginning they are told that they will never beat the older players or that they should only do certain things. What they don't realize is sp only matters if you know how to use it. A 10 year old character can be bought by a few month old newbie with lots of rl money for PLEXs. So just because you will never catch up doesn't mean you will never have a chance. Sp is just a number, it is not an end goal. Sure the fact that my main has 75 mil sp is quite comforting, but it doesn't mean I will win. A few years ago I was killed by a fleet of noobs, led by a velator in 0.0
In the end only one thing matters to me:
I have always only done what I wanted to do. My friends and my passion for this game is what makes it worthwhile.
Until those things end, I will always have fun in Eve.
I once podded myself by blowing a huge fart. |
Jane Schereau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.31 03:03:00 -
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Great OP!
This is not only good for noobs to read, but also any player that is getting bored with the game. |
J'Poll
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:48:00 -
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It has been stated before. But it can't be stated enough.
Great OP
+1
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Snuskpelle
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 07:32:00 -
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Irina Minkova wrote:He taught me what he knew about mining and sent me on my way. I have since gathered my own information about tons of different aspects of this game, and once I get where I want to be in industry, I will be very happy. I've set a pretty long term goal for myself and every day that goes by I can see the progress. It's pretty great. Catching up to my friend isn't really something that I want to do because we have different end goals.
not true. 3 months in the beginning means nothing. unless you both choose to train the exact same skills and do the exact same. More important then a few 100k skillpoints will be what you do with the skills and how much time you dedicate to Eve.
A lot of eve playing takes place out of space. Reading, learning, researching things about the game. This can also be a trap
when you spend lots of time trying to learn stuff from guides on the web. Just read the basics and then jump into it. You
quickly learn stuff by doing it. I remember I spent so much time looking at PI guides reading and researching, spreadsheeting.
I could have made millions in the wasted time. no need for fancy PI installation planner tools and spreadsheets. this example
applies to many activities in eve. Learning by doing and then at some point maybe read some more to increase efficiency.
If you play the game better you will have more success with ISK/kills/achievements whatever then a 3 year old casual player character who still does not know how to do things properly in Eve.
I fully agree, Eve is what you make of it. If people expect quest characters on the map with a big sign floating above their
head "talk to this guy" they should go play wow. Sandboxes rule.
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Trudeaux Margaret
London Elektricity
The Aurora Shadow
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:02:00 -
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Fantastic post.
I started out been very ADD with my skill training. I had no idea what I wanted to do. I was also so overly cautious about losing ships that I would hardly dare to undock when my corp was wardec'd (which tends to be often.) I would look at more experienced players and compare myself and get very discouraged.
Now I know where I want to be in a year, and I've set out small goals like a breadcrumb trail to get me there. I don't look at what other players are doing anymore; I just worry about me. First major goal is to not completely and totally suck at PvP. I expect that one will keep me busy for a good long while.  To get there I have a few smaller goals to reach that I hope will help.
So yes, it's strange at first, coming from the other "themepark" type MMOs to this one -- but it's also liberating. |
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