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Helios Aquiness
The Rising Stars Academy
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Posted - 2013.05.31 16:24:00 -
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EVE beeing 10 years old got me to thinking about how much it's changed over the years. I the year since Iv played it a great deal has changed so I can only imagen how its diffrent from when it started.
So that made me wonder, what if it all started over but with the same game mechanics as we have today? Same buffs and nerfs, same ships and their stats, but no economy, no soverignty, no alliances or coilitions. How would the map look? What wars would be fought, what new alliances formed?
An interesting thought experiment.
*Edit* I should clarify, this is just a what if forum game. I know this will never happen nor am I asking for it. |

Illest Insurrectionist
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.31 16:25:00 -
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Well we wouldn't have any remove T2 bpo theads. I'm not sure how the forums would cope with that.
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ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1375
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:20:00 -
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The map would look dark. Because there would be no sov. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate Hashashin Cartel
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:26:00 -
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I think it would be interesting to see. This will never happen, but what if CCP started a fresh server? Would any current players switch to that server and basically start over? I think I might. Would all the people that don't play the game because they feel they are behind no matter what they do start playing?
I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:29:00 -
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Nothing would change.
"You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

Zak Breen
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:30:00 -
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I think it would be better. Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of not knowing. http://www.di.fm/spacemusic |

Kali Maat
Le Clan Panneton
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:32:00 -
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I love the "thought experiment" but this would break the "Eve is real" golden rule.
this appart.. I would LOVE to be part of the land grab gold rush! so many opportunities for a trader like me to TAKE OVER THE WORLD :-D |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:32:00 -
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We wouldn't have to worry about the little bees since they'd all still be in Second Life.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Northern Misfit
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:48:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:The map would look dark. Because there would be no sov. Probably not for long. If today is day 1, and the same people today are playing, I imagine the map would be quite colorful in no time.
After all the battles that we've been seeing of late, next week could end up seeing color movement or a few drunk diplos in the corner of a pub after a long night. I will babysit your stuff for you while you're gone, all contributions to my ship replacement program are-ásubject to being exploded on the undock
-á |

Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
155
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:51:00 -
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NO SUPERS \o/
Posting in a "Death to All Supers" thread R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Helios Aquiness
The Rising Stars Academy
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:53:00 -
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My understanding is that titans and other capitals have been nerfed from their original form, Im wondering how much of todays sov have been clamed and held since before then. And would those people be able to clame and hold it again with todays rules? |

Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:56:00 -
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Remove local and I would be all for it.
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Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:58:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Remove local and I would be all for it.
Remove hisec and local and anyone who isnt in an alliance at once. "You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

Northern Misfit
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:58:00 -
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It's possible that it would take longer, but I think that human nature being what it is, it would still be a driving force to conquer regions and hold them as their own. Maybe not on as big a scale as we saw in the past (or looking at the map), but I think that our desire to be the best and to have things that are ours and under our control will still drive us to invade, battle, conquer and defend. I will babysit your stuff for you while you're gone, all contributions to my ship replacement program are-ásubject to being exploded on the undock
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Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:04:00 -
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But yeah nothing would change.
Those not in an exciting alliance would be stuck in hisec being boring as usual.
Again. "You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1924
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:11:00 -
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Whoever was the first to anchor TCUs would have a good few months of sov invulnerability since there wouldn't be the pilots with the SP to use dreads or high DPS guns to enable effective structure grinds. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Erloas
Unorthodox Operations
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:47:00 -
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It depends a lot on if it launched as a new game that no one knew about or if it was just a fresh server. A fresh server you would see a lot of alts training for specific goals to get land claimed as soon as possible. It would be a long time before we started seeing too many t2 items and they would all be really expensive because it takes a while to get to harvesting any ice, let alone enough to put up a lot of POSs and you need POSs before you can get the materials to make anything advanced. It would be a mad dash and a crazy amount of fighting for a while but it would grind to a slow down quickly because no one has the pimped out ships to grind Incursions and level 4 missions.
What ever happened to the Asian server? I know they started to set one up for a while and it broke some log-on records but it was still in beta and I left soon after that. |

Helios Aquiness
The Rising Stars Academy
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:57:00 -
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Erloas wrote:It depends a lot on if it launched as a new game that no one knew about or if it was just a fresh server. A fresh server you would see a lot of alts training for specific goals to get land claimed as soon as possible. It would be a long time before we started seeing too many t2 items and they would all be really expensive because it takes a while to get to harvesting any ice, let alone enough to put up a lot of POSs and you need POSs before you can get the materials to make anything advanced. It would be a mad dash and a crazy amount of fighting for a while but it would grind to a slow down quickly because no one has the pimped out ships to grind Incursions and level 4 missions.
What ever happened to the Asian server? I know they started to set one up for a while and it broke some log-on records but it was still in beta and I left soon after that.
I thought they didnt have this game in Asia for the same reason they dont have DUST 514 on Xbox. China and Microsoft want exclusive servers. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.05.31 20:13:00 -
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If Eve started today, I would hurry up and copyright AFK CLOAKING, AFK MINING and BOTTING. Everyone who did or said those thing would owe me a nickel....and Id be rich....rich beyond my wildest dreams!!!! Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

YuuKnow
Terra-Formers
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:14:00 -
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Helios Aquiness wrote:So that made me wonder, what if it all started over but with the same game mechanics as we have today? Same buffs and nerfs, same ships and their stats, but no economy, no soverignty, no alliances or coilitions. How would the map look? What wars would be fought, what new alliances formed?
If they had a 'do over' and DID NOT change some of the more messed up ship mechanics *cough*supercaps*cough*, then CCP would be mentally impaired
yk |

Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:23:00 -
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A question might be, EVE servers are hit by a meteor, it's all gone but EVE is going to start back up tomorrow. Will you sub up and do it all again?
The biggest hurdle to an EVE today would be getting people to play it that don't have a hobby investment a decade in the making. R.I.P. Vile Rat |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.05.31 21:28:00 -
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Helios Aquiness wrote:I thought they didnt have this game in Asia for the same reason they dont have DUST 514 on Xbox. China and Microsoft want exclusive servers.
EVE's China Server stats: http://eve-offline.net/?server=serenity This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Torneach Ultor
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.31 23:32:00 -
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Or just have one-way wormholes to another galaxy, largest thing that can go through is a battleship. Only the entrance system has NPC presence and a station, players would need to build stargates and stations in other systems.
Might be fun...
Actually it probably wouldn't. |

Digital Messiah
Heroic Era
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:01:00 -
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The question isn't whether or not people would start over. Players make alts all the time. The question is whether CCP would use the clean slate to make EVE better. Dreads, carriers, etc being the biggest ships along with titans being sent off. It is a nice idea to create ships used as catapults in medieval terms. But not when those catapults can nuke entire battle fields.
I would play on a new server so long as this subscription stayed. One account sub with two servers to choose from. It would break the whole single shard aspect a tiny bit. But that was never my greatest selling point for eve especially since the Asian server does the same thing. Join a Heroic Era today! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.01 03:36:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Whoever was the first to anchor TCUs would have a good few months of sov invulnerability since there wouldn't be the pilots with the SP to use dreads or high DPS guns to enable effective structure grinds. We'd shoot POS with pulse laser coercers (no need to reload) and rep with POSpreys.
Boat would become the new king of fleet commanding in structure shoots.
Might need beams, actually due to the size of a Large POS' shields. I am a nullsec zealot. |
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