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Aquiesse Erus
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Posted - 2005.11.02 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 02/11/2005 11:10:47 Aquiesse, time to get the main out yet ?
I know, it's hard to come out and admit you're just another nobody from a defeated alliance, flaming everyone that's strogner then you. But, at least it lets you retain some shred of honour.
I'm not meaning to flame you here btw, but you do know that most of what you say here makes you sound rather foolish and weak ?
Just some friendly advice, lose the alt..
But dear Sir, this is a main on one account :D
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.02 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Aquiesse Erus
Stop thinking so much of yourself Dread. You know MC is your match alone, F-E i would wager is too. With HUN GODS and the like.
I would put HUN against any [5] Corp and they would come out on top 99.99% of the time.
MC are effective, but they are also mercs.. so in the long run they arent a major concern.. ATUK+ Reign hunted F-E/PA out only a few weeks ago.. given that and the fact they need merc to fight for them.. i think ur being kind of optimistic about their abilities..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.02 11:40:00 -
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Rod. I sincerly hope you don't mean me.
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
After 24 hours of this morning all wars against the [5] have been made mutual.
Terms of surrender are as followed F-E Pays 2 billion per corp in the 5 for the wasted time they undoubtable will spend hunting your people in empire Delivers at least 2 tech 2 bpo's to us
PA Surrender of BKG to a neutral foces plus 2billion per corp in the 5
NBSI we dont expect them to reach this stage so disbandment will be sufficient
This is expected to be a reference point for those corps in the coming weeks/months.
The Five looks forward to the possible fights in empire. CYA in space
The Five looks forward to the possible fights in empire... empire...
I think key word here is empire... But empire is also a key word. Oh. And empire. 
Now. You can run away from that all you like. But empire war haven't exactly gone as planned to 5 now have it? So, if you where reffering to my posts.
If you can't handle what your initial plans. You can ***** all you like about it 5. But you will be held accountable for your words and change of plans. Speak the word of greatness and I'll hold you to them. Was it us or you who left the empire theatre? You can twist and turn it all you like. But that doesn't change the fact that 5 left empire and the other side didn't. Keep that in mind the next time you post and when you proclaim your greatness. We all know you figured this whould be a walk in the park and we whould bleed dry in empire. You can't exactly say thats whats been happening so far now is it?
Are you still as arrogant as when you started out? Are you still as sure you'll come on top? It looks to me that your being driven from one place to the next. I wonder how long you'll stay in Venal?
Take care guys. I still hope to see you on the field. It's been great fun so far. SoonÖ
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.02 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: KIATolon on 02/11/2005 11:42:21 As I said before. With F-E (or whomever) paying out large sums of ISK and/or other valuables, they're expending a huge amount of resources whilst continuing to take no less losses. At the same time MC are just getting the kills that those corps would usually get (but dont because MC get in their so quickly). I dont know if MC get additional isk for kills (or replacements for losses). If they do it is an ADDITIONAL drain on their employers.
If this is a war of attrition then MC's clients have really shot themselves in the nuts as they're taking significantly more losses in terms of ISK for very few extra kills.
edit: Muthsera, we've killed far more in empire than we've lost. However you guys didn't come to empire with the force we expected, so many of you are all still in 0.0. Hence we move to 0.0 now.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: Amthrianius on 02/11/2005 13:07:56 rofl @ Muthsera
So, us going into enemy 0.0 space is running away, ok, lol, seriously man i would pay so much to see your joint-alliance chat
FE Guy 1 > Hostile [5] Fleet headed to our space Muthsera > AHAHA they are running away!!!!!! Sane FE Guy > er no, they are coming into our space, they are coming right for us! Muthsera > nooooooooo they are running away and retreating into our space!!!!!!!"!!"
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
If you can't handle what your initial plans.
bad stan.. u forgot to CC Muthsera our plans.. 
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:17:00 -
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and first phase was complete fight in empire for a while. remember you were the ones who war dec'd us.
we just decided that we would most likely see you in bs i 0.0 more bs more fun fleet fights ftw you will still be surrendering STAN
FACTA NON VERBA ALTS FTL |

Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius Edited by: Amthrianius on 02/11/2005 13:07:56 rofl @ Muthsera
So, us going into enemy 0.0 space is running away, ok, lol, seriously man i would pay so much to see your joint-alliance chat
FE Guy 1 > Hostile [5] Fleet headed to our space Muthsera > AHAHA they are running away!!!!!! Sane FE Guy > er no, they are coming into our space, they are coming right for us! Muthsera > nooooooooo they are running away and retreating into our space!!!!!!!"!!"
Mate. If you wanna smack me atleast get it right what alliance we're in. Or your going to look like a complete noobhead like you do now. But yes. When you leave a theatre to go to another. It say quite alot of your involvement in the other. You might ***** all you like about how bad it is. But that doesn't change the fact that you changed theatres. Now. I can understand some of your reasons for doing so. But again. That doesn't change the fact that you left and we stayed. Talk all your big talk about how we're going to die and all. But I can't respect you if you don't have some self realisation. And to the rest of 5: please don't let your noobs out on the forum again. It makes you look bad. You can argue my point of view all you like. But don't do it so noobish as you just did.
SoonÖ
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii and first phase was complete fight in empire for a while. remember you were the ones who war dec'd us.
we just decided that we would most likely see you in bs i 0.0 more bs more fun fleet fights ftw you will still be surrendering
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
After 24 hours of this morning all wars against the [5] have been made mutual.
Terms of surrender are as followed F-E Pays 2 billion per corp in the 5 for the wasted time they undoubtable will spend hunting your people in empire Delivers at least 2 tech 2 bpo's to us
PA Surrender of BKG to a neutral foces plus 2billion per corp in the 5
NBSI we dont expect them to reach this stage so disbandment will be sufficient
This is expected to be a reference point for those corps in the coming weeks/months.
The Five looks forward to the possible fights in empire. CYA in space
The Five looks forward to the possible fights in empire. Empire mate.. Your words not mine.
SoonÖ
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:22:00 -
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And we will have fights in empire, when you camp m-o, run into empire, we will kill you in taisy aswell 
But anyway im happy to think we are retreating to venal, whatever floats your boat :D ---------------
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Amthrianius Edited by: Amthrianius on 02/11/2005 13:07:56 rofl @ Muthsera
So, us going into enemy 0.0 space is running away, ok, lol, seriously man i would pay so much to see your joint-alliance chat
FE Guy 1 > Hostile [5] Fleet headed to our space Muthsera > AHAHA they are running away!!!!!! Sane FE Guy > er no, they are coming into our space, they are coming right for us! Muthsera > nooooooooo they are running away and retreating into our space!!!!!!!"!!"
Mate. If you wanna smack me atleast get it right what alliance we're in. Or your going to look like a complete noobhead like you do now.
lol
I suggest you read, unless ofc you dont know what a "joint-alliance" chat is 
Now who looks the complete noobhead?  ---------------
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Amthrianius Edited by: Amthrianius on 02/11/2005 13:07:56 rofl @ Muthsera
So, us going into enemy 0.0 space is running away, ok, lol, seriously man i would pay so much to see your joint-alliance chat
FE Guy 1 > Hostile [5] Fleet headed to our space Muthsera > AHAHA they are running away!!!!!! Sane FE Guy > er no, they are coming into our space, they are coming right for us! Muthsera > nooooooooo they are running away and retreating into our space!!!!!!!"!!"
Mate. If you wanna smack me atleast get it right what alliance we're in. Or your going to look like a complete noobhead like you do now.
lol
I suggest you read, unless ofc you dont know what a "joint-alliance" chat is 
Now who looks the complete noobhead? 
Mate. You better dig out that log. Becus your imagination is getting ahead of you. I don't presume to talk for anyone. And a sure as hell don't pressume to own any space. Then you damn better start getting your intel right if you pressume sas claims space.
SoonÖ
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:32:00 -
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Some people dont seem to know how warfare strategy works and comes to the wrong conclusions so i'll sum it up for you ;
Our goal is to defeat the 3 northern alliances. Given the fact that these alliances have their fair share of industrialists in their space while their pvp'ers fight us in empire it would be foolish not to go for their weaker targets too in order to defeat them ( break their morale ). The first part of the war has been a lot fun so far and, even though MC inflicted several unexpected losses, we are pleased with the results. But just fighting those who want to fight does not brake them, that is why we need to take the war into their homeland.
Now if anyone still thinks that our move is a sign of weakness and shows that this war doesnt work out as we planned then so be it, i can't be bothered to change your mind and actually i dont care at all. You will find out soon enough i guess.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Amthrianius Edited by: Amthrianius on 02/11/2005 13:07:56 rofl @ Muthsera
So, us going into enemy 0.0 space is running away, ok, lol, seriously man i would pay so much to see your joint-alliance chat
FE Guy 1 > Hostile [5] Fleet headed to our space Muthsera > AHAHA they are running away!!!!!! Sane FE Guy > er no, they are coming into our space, they are coming right for us! Muthsera > nooooooooo they are running away and retreating into our space!!!!!!!"!!"
Mate. If you wanna smack me atleast get it right what alliance we're in. Or your going to look like a complete noobhead like you do now. But yes. When you leave a theatre to go to another. It say quite alot of your involvement in the other. You might ***** all you like about how bad it is. But that doesn't change the fact that you changed theatres. Now. I can understand some of your reasons for doing so. But again. That doesn't change the fact that you left and we stayed. Talk all your big talk about how we're going to die and all. But I can't respect you if you don't have some self realisation. And to the rest of 5: please don't let your noobs out on the forum again. It makes you look bad. You can argue my point of view all you like. But don't do it so noobish as you just did.
sorry now you not just look clueless but outright stupid, reading ftw.
Lets face it and run it down for the public, you know nothing about our plans, you know not a single reason for our decisions nor have u asked for any. The only thing you base everything you babble over and over on is some assumptions you made up. We made a statement at the start of the campaign which we followed up until we decided to change our tactics, something you give yourself abit too much credit for, considering the losses you took so far (without mentioning a killboard but compare all of them and ull find a pretty accurate picture). Without slandering the mercenaries here, so far they only had a slight impact in the fighting. They might have 1 won fleetbattle with 10+ kills but thats already half of what they have so far done, hardly enough to scare someone.
In the longrun you wardeclared US, your goals declared by your own members were to finish us off, to down our numbers and to make us disband. So far you havent achieved either of those, the opposite took place. PA basically left empire, all your groups weeded out "inactives", especially in the hauler and RD department and to top it all you called in mercs to bolster your numbers. For anyone not remotely blinded by his 5 hatred that tells already another story then any repeatings of empire empire empire u can make in your posts. Empire was a step on the road for us and a step we took, now it is time to lay YOUR (meant of all opposition) homes at waste.
As for the running "away" we had alot of fights in taisy and surrounding space thats 20 jumps away, so i guess u can followup. Just no lag or convo alts or the typical dirty empire tricks to hide behind ?
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:40:00 -
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Am I the only one who can smell desperation, fear and even panic in some of fives posts? 
Five lost the battle of Jita, its done, over, we wont see them there any more. Ofcourse they had to do something else, so now they (15 or so) together with 50 VI took a stroll north. Who knows, maybe they will manage to get a few kills up there.
Its been fun fighting you guys anyway. When you are ready, come back for some more. I know I look forward to it.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
sorry now you not just look clueless but outright stupid, reading ftw.
Lets face it and run it down for the public, you know nothing about our plans, you know not a single reason for our decisions nor have u asked for any. The only thing you base everything you babble over and over on is some assumptions you made up. We made a statement at the start of the campaign which we followed up until we decided to change our tactics, something you give yourself abit too much credit for, considering the losses you took so far (without mentioning a killboard but compare all of them and ull find a pretty accurate picture). Without slandering the mercenaries here, so far they only had a slight impact in the fighting. They might have 1 won fleetbattle with 10+ kills but thats already half of what they have so far done, hardly enough to scare someone.
In the longrun you wardeclared US, your goals declared by your own members were to finish us off, to down our numbers and to make us disband. So far you havent achieved either of those, the opposite took place. PA basically left empire, all your groups weeded out "inactives", especially in the hauler and RD department and to top it all you called in mercs to bolster your numbers. For anyone not remotely blinded by his 5 hatred that tells already another story then any repeatings of empire empire empire u can make in your posts. Empire was a step on the road for us and a step we took, now it is time to lay YOUR (meant of all opposition) homes at waste.
As for the running "away" we had alot of fights in taisy and surrounding space thats 20 jumps away, so i guess u can followup. Just no lag or convo alts or the typical dirty empire tricks to hide behind ?
Finally something other than smack to respond to. Yeah. I can agree that my arguing is well. Simplistic to say the least. But what I'm trying to achive here is to make you realise that you cannot go around whit this "we're greater than thu" attitude. And I'm making you stick to your words. I know as well as anyone that this war isn't over. I know as wall as anyone that you moving off to venal is to make greater pressure on the alliances. I see that move quite clearly. It's no problem to realice it a strong move strategically, becus quite frankly you achived nothing in empire mate. And please don't use your killboard to disprove that. Your board is probobly the most inacurate out there. I don't pressume to say that we won the war. But you did move to a diffrent theatre of operation. You where the once that started this we'll come to empire and we'll own you since you can't just cancel the war now. Now. Don't say I'm clueless just becus I disagree whit you. I don't pressume to say that you are either. But some of your members have portrayed that and that ****es me off. SoonÖ
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Am I the only one who can smell desperation, fear and even panic in some of fives posts? 
Five lost the battle of Jita, its done, over, we wont see them there any more. Ofcourse they had to do something else, so now they (15 or so) together with 50 VI took a stroll north. Who knows, maybe they will manage to get a few kills up there.
Its been fun fighting you guys anyway. When you are ready, come back for some more. I know I look forward to it.
Jeez man, cut the dramatics.
If you think [5] would be broke and broken after a week of ****ing about in empire wars you have alot left to learn.
I suggest new guys like yourself refrain from making themselves look silly. _______________________________________________
Power to the players !
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle Am I the only one who can smell desperation, fear and even panic in some of fives posts? 
Five lost the battle of Jita, its done, over, we wont see them there any more. Ofcourse they had to do something else, so now they (15 or so) together with 50 VI took a stroll north. Who knows, maybe they will manage to get a few kills up there.
Its been fun fighting you guys anyway. When you are ready, come back for some more. I know I look forward to it.
honey self deception might work for you but it doesnt work on the forums.
Which battle of jita again ? You forgot to mention "ze numbers" or a date. If you dont want to burst this thread just evemail me so i can see it for myself that the mighty FE weeded us out !
P.s. i really hope that PA believes your numbers regarding our strength in their space- they will be in for a surprise. On the otherhand if you have an issue so obvious with counting pilots and alliance affiliations im not entirely sure your "jita battle" numbers match. Just keep telling yourself that youre close to victory, if that keeps you coming.
Btw the only desperation i read here are your posts, youre abit eager to classify your opposition as the losers and call the fight over "in empire". Wouldnt the strong winner follow them and beat their butts if they "flee" 20 jumps away ? No need to wait, come and get it done now ?
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 02/11/2005 13:48:14
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle the battle of Jita,
/me sn1ggers..   
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera But some of your members have portrayed that and that ****es me off.
Every alliance has its retards tbh 5 included Its part of the game and although hard people need to look past these people and judge alliances (not just 5) on the overall players.
The move to the North is another part of this war and we'll see how it progresses.
BTW there seem to be some very pis*ed penguins atm
2005.11.02 13:26:00 Atomic Battle Penguins has declared war on The Five. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Gl guys see you soon i`m sure.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Kcel Chim *snip*
*snip*
We knew all along that Empire would win us nothing, in the long run Empire is not what decides if a alliance lives or dies. From the beginning our plan was moving into 0.0. That you declared war on us was just a happy coincidence. You can tell yourself over and over again that we lost the battle of Jita (if you refer to the one fight against the MC then ok) but wtf... What battle of Jita? If you think that Jita has strategic importance to us then you are sadly mistaken. Empire can be fun (not my cup of tea really) but its only a distraction from the main goal. Up until the MC wardeclared on us we had all the plans for moving in laid out since tbh you werent in empire any more. You had the S.A.S. guys camping one system, then you had NBSI near Rens and that was about it. The rest was pretty clear. I moved a couple of BS's without insta's from Agil to Jita without even seeing a wartarget. So dont kid yourself saying that you "drove" us out of empire.
P.S. this is more aimed at your alliance's in general then your corp since you actually are in empire afaik. Although I must admit I havent been logged in the last few days due to other issues.
P.S. we dont proclaim we are uber, we are uber  
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Finally something other than smack to respond to. Yeah. I can agree that my arguing is well. Simplistic to say the least. But what I'm trying to achive here is to make you realise that you cannot go around whit this "we're greater than thu" attitude. And I'm making you stick to your words. I know as well as anyone that this war isn't over. I know as wall as anyone that you moving off to venal is to make greater pressure on the alliances. I see that move quite clearly. It's no problem to realice it a strong move strategically, becus quite frankly you achived nothing in empire mate. And please don't use your killboard to disprove that. Your board is probobly the most inacurate out there. I don't pressume to say that we won the war. But you did move to a diffrent theatre of operation. You where the once that started this we'll come to empire and we'll own you since you can't just cancel the war now. Now. Don't say I'm clueless just becus I disagree whit you. I don't pressume to say that you are either. But some of your members have portrayed that and that ****es me off.
First of all ill apologize for calling you "stupid" as that was uncalled for.
In reply to the rest of your post, i wouldnt say we have achieved nothing in empire. Basing myself purely on the kills (something we both can agree on most killboards get right) i think we have brought our members enough fun for the time beeing. This is and was our sole real goal and is foremost the drive behind playing eve. Furthermore you made a valid point, while roaming kills in empire makes tactically alot of sense as it keeps your folks happy it does nothing in the war time strategy. Not because of losses or numbers or lag but simply because an opposition as numberrich as we face can easily produce and outfit their losses on a daily basis while basing themself in their own lands and cyceling their warriors depending on money needs.
As you said our long distance goal was to destroy your alliances which means in the longrun we must overcome the problem to cut your funds - an option empire doesnt offer.
Its rather obvious that our leadership has deemed the time right to make this step, especially since we saw i.e. PA pulling from empire and just calling in mercenaries.
Call this idea abit utopian if you like but i think that 3-4 alliances could prolly pull together out of empire and simply let mercs handle their wars if it was just limited to empire. Purely based on their industrial capacity and their relatively safe heaven in their own space while all opposition is tied to an area which you can either avoid or use alts for.
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine Jeez man, cut the dramatics.
Hey, its a game. I am just roleplaying a little 
Seriously, we all play and fight in the war because we think its fun. Or atleast, I do. If/when I dont have fun anymore, I will do something else (either in EVE or in another game). No need to get upset or angry over it.
If we win, fine. If we lose, thats fine as well. Everyone has said we are crappy PvP players from the start, so we dont have anything to prove (we are also outnumbered). But as it looks right now, we sure arent losing.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.02 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 02/11/2005 13:58:14
Originally by: Muthsera I'm making you stick to your words.
how?
can you prove we wont have empire battles in the future? can you prove we wont look forward to them?
we moved closer to the areas you claim to get more fights.. is that difficult to understand?
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA |

Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.11.02 14:02:00 -
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Sorry cant take part of this war and kill [5] scums because I'm too busy playing game where one needs brains .. Civilization IV  ________________________________________________________ Freedom is illusion created by weird voices in my head |

Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.02 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Kcel Chim *snip*
*snip*
We knew all along that Empire would win us nothing, in the long run Empire is not what decides if a alliance lives or dies. From the beginning our plan was moving into 0.0. That you declared war on us was just a happy coincidence. You can tell yourself over and over again that we lost the battle of Jita (if you refer to the one fight against the MC then ok) but wtf... What battle of Jita? If you think that Jita has strategic importance to us then you are sadly mistaken. Empire can be fun (not my cup of tea really) but its only a distraction from the main goal. Up until the MC wardeclared on us we had all the plans for moving in laid out since tbh you werent in empire any more. You had the S.A.S. guys camping one system, then you had NBSI near Rens and that was about it. The rest was pretty clear. I moved a couple of BS's without insta's from Agil to Jita without even seeing a wartarget. So dont kid yourself saying that you "drove" us out of empire.
P.S. this is more aimed at your alliance's in general then your corp since you actually are in empire afaik. Although I must admit I havent been logged in the last few days due to other issues.
P.S. we dont proclaim we are uber, we are uber  
Mate. I haven't claimed any lossed battle of Jita. I think thats a bad statement tbh. And it didn't come from me. But I do claim that you moved off from empire for a number of reasons. I think you did that much sooner becus you couldn't bleed the alliances in empire like you wanted. Also. I appresiate that you stick to arguing about general. Becus I only see sas as a small role in this. And our role have changes as you moved off to venal. Which is quite frankly a good development for us. You cannot blob everyone back to empire mate. :)
Now. I want to press that I don't talk for NBSI in anyway. If some of you got that impression. Also I never claimed to have driven you out of empire. I'm holding you to your words of greatness. I'm giving you a hard time for leaving empire. We all knew you whould eventually. But that doesn't change the fact that you still had this "holier than thu" attitude towards how you whould do in empire. Thats what I'm saying. I don't claim to say anything other than that.
Also. Your good mate. I'll give you that. But not uber. :) But I still lub you. ;)
SoonÖ
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.02 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Amthrianius Edited by: Amthrianius on 02/11/2005 13:07:56 rofl @ Muthsera
So, us going into enemy 0.0 space is running away, ok, lol, seriously man i would pay so much to see your joint-alliance chat
FE Guy 1 > Hostile [5] Fleet headed to our space Muthsera > AHAHA they are running away!!!!!! Sane FE Guy > er no, they are coming into our space, they are coming right for us! Muthsera > nooooooooo they are running away and retreating into our space!!!!!!!"!!"
Mate. If you wanna smack me atleast get it right what alliance we're in. Or your going to look like a complete noobhead like you do now.
lol
I suggest you read, unless ofc you dont know what a "joint-alliance" chat is 
Now who looks the complete noobhead? 
Mate. You better dig out that log. Becus your imagination is getting ahead of you. I don't presume to talk for anyone. And a sure as hell don't pressume to own any space. Then you damn better start getting your intel right if you pressume sas claims space.
S.A.S. = NBSI = This
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.02 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
S.A.S. = NBSI = This

Again. Get your intel right. SoonÖ
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.02 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Amthrianius
S.A.S. = NBSI = This

Again. Get your intel right.
there are downsides to joining an alliance just for a free war and that is because you are a part of NBSI(for whatever reason that i couldnt really care less about) your alliance still claims territory. But ofc you wouldnt want to think that because that wouldnt suit your argument just like you saying we are retreating  ---------------
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.02 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
there are downsides to joining an alliance just for a free war and that is because you are a part of NBSI(for whatever reason that i couldnt really care less about) your alliance still claims territory. But ofc you wouldnt want to think that because that wouldnt suit your argument just like you saying we are retreating 
S.A.S don't claim space. Period.
Pressume all you like. I'm telling you we don't claim space. Take it as you like to. You can say NBSI claim space. Thats an ok argument speaking in general terms. But we do not claim space. Do you understand the diffrence? SoonÖ
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