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loolooey
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Posted - 2005.11.03 03:31:00 -
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Can't really see you guys getting money off mining equipment. Does anyone pay the ransom? If not, how are you guys making money? I have a main and I think I am absolutely sick of mining and was thinking of giving EVE a last shot as a pirate. Seems like here lately I really want to **** people off, lol.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.11.03 03:38:00 -
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Yes some pay ransoms and some don't. Mostly making most of my isk in 0.0 atm from solo engagements on frigs with t2 equipment but that's not really considered piracy. Decent isk can be pulled in from just ganking people at gates or stations. Many haulers around just begging to be hurt...
-Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Feuergeist1
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Posted - 2005.11.03 03:50:00 -
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Well, a friend and I popped a covetor and made about 45 mil of the mods it dropped.
made by Esturary! |
Poison Kiss
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Posted - 2005.11.03 03:58:00 -
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Most of them mine like crazy when they hope no-one is watching. 
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.11.03 04:05:00 -
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It is entirely possible to make a fortune from pvp/pirating. Its all a numbers game
2 or 3 of you will be able to kill excatly the same number of miners as 10 ppl would, however you get a better split. If there are 10 ppl online, split into two groups. Do not blob up.
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.11.03 06:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Shin Ra
It is entirely possible to make a fortune from pvp/pirating. Its all a numbers game
2 or 3 of you will be able to kill excatly the same number of miners as 10 ppl would, however you get a better split. If there are 10 ppl online, split into two groups. Do not blob up.
Exactly.
In the beginning it is difficult to make a profit at piracy. With practice and some compitence i do well without resorting to gate camping. I make alot of money in other ways, but given just an interceptor+loadout i'd probably have 100+mil in my wallet within a week solo, not sure if i'd manage more or less in a gang as i'm almost always solo.
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Ank Myrandor
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Posted - 2005.11.03 09:40:00 -
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when you're a pirate it's hard to make money in eve. but what the hell why do you need money if you have tactics :P
if you got a decent team everything should go well.
sometimes you got lucky to ransom the right people but most of the time when people are scared of ya there is nothing to scramble :(
i blame u , infod, beer and kebabs and others !! :P
but well yeah earning money isn't the first priority for all pirates ... as long as i have fun in the game it's okay :)
current stash : 120k isk YARRRRR !!!!
( i should buy less or roam even more !! )
True Amarrians are Dutch !!
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Chrisbitz
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Posted - 2005.11.03 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Feuergeist1
Well, a friend and I popped a covetor and made about 45 mil of the mods it dropped.
You AND A FRIEND managed to pop a covetor? wow!!! <uber> I bet he must have been afk for you to be able to manage that! I'm impressed! :-)
<sarcasm mode:off>
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Gaelron
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Posted - 2005.11.03 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Gaelron on 03/11/2005 17:19:13
Originally by: Chrisbitz
Originally by: Feuergeist1
Well, a friend and I popped a covetor and made about 45 mil of the mods it dropped.
You AND A FRIEND managed to pop a covetor? wow!!! <uber> I bet he must have been afk for you to be able to manage that! I'm impressed! :-)
<sarcasm mode:off>
This is by far the stupidest troll post I ahve seen since I left WOW.
Edit: I forgot to congradulate you! Congratulations (yea spelling)
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Sluggers
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Posted - 2005.11.03 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Chrisbitz
You AND A FRIEND managed to pop a covetor? wow!!! <uber> I bet he must have been afk for you to be able to manage that! I'm impressed! :-)
<sarcasm mode:off>
lol, bet you were the one who lost it. He was just saying they made 45m off it, not that it was the best kill ever.
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2005.11.03 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chrisbitz
Originally by: Feuergeist1
Well, a friend and I popped a covetor and made about 45 mil of the mods it dropped.
You AND A FRIEND managed to pop a covetor? wow!!! <uber> I bet he must have been afk for you to be able to manage that! I'm impressed! :-)
<sarcasm mode:off>
Who cares how many it took, result is they got a kill and made cash from it.
Job done tbh.
Pirating is often a boring waiting game, you earn next to zero, then bam, along comes that sweet load and you have a nice earner.
Inbetween kills add some gangs roaming around to wipe you out, totally empty belts, people insta'ing away safely, it can be very boring and risky, and other times a total cash filled cake walk.
Make what you can of it, your never thrown any bones with regads to the way pirating works these days patch after patch, its a constant upward climb with few gains, take what you can when you can as often as you can.
UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace?
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alphawolf2929
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Posted - 2005.11.03 20:39:00 -
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if i remember clearly an imperial apoc was given as a BIG lottery prize. how they got it dont remember
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alphawolf2929
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Posted - 2005.11.03 20:39:00 -
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wth? my reply went to the wrong thread?
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Grankor
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Posted - 2005.11.03 21:25:00 -
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Pirates dont make a living....
THEY MAKE A KILLING!!!! YARR!!!
Most pirates sell mods from shipkills, or make money from ransoming.
Other pirates have mining alts that make the money for them 
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.11.04 15:53:00 -
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Solo piracy made me about halve a billion from ransom and loot. Plenty of my victims were barges and from my experience they were often better targets than mining BS. If a mining BS refused to pay up it often meant little profit as the loot (Miner II's, co processors, etc) was worth crap. Barges however always have Strip Miners (3mil a piece), in some cases t2 variant (12mil a piece) and in two cases Harvester Drones (YUMMY). Killing NPC'rs was usually just silly as low sec empire is usually only roamed by cruisers. However I got one goddamn fat pigeon in a low sec system with a complex in it. Those complexes are usually ran by Battleships with juicy mods, in this case a faction battleship. But now my secrate is low (from 4.8 to -1.8) and I rather not pirate my way out of high sec so it'll be a while before I have another pirating spree.
If you've got the skills I strongly suggest Solo. Low sec systems are very solo friendly with sentries to protect you from small gangs and stations to dock and log (when you're not criminally flagged that is). Gangs are way too easy to notice in unpopulated areas and will scare most good targets away before you can get to them.
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Josiah Bartlet
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Posted - 2005.11.05 09:50:00 -
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<sarcasm mode:off>
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2005.11.05 09:57:00 -
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Just got 80m + from a bustard, had to share it out tho, still not bad tbfh
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Feuergeist1
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Posted - 2005.11.05 10:24:00 -
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Edited by: Feuergeist1 on 05/11/2005 10:24:57
made by Esturary! |
The Hanz
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Posted - 2005.11.05 11:11:00 -
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Made about 1 billion in a week once. I'd say it pays.
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DeMundus
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Posted - 2005.11.05 12:43:00 -
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Lets just say ASCN and ISS, soon are sponsering me a navy BS
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2005.11.05 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Grankor
Pirates dont make a living....
THEY MAKE A KILLING!!!! YARR!!!
I loled 
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Magic Trev
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Posted - 2005.11.05 14:38:00 -
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short answer : good pirates can make aliving easliy yes
Originally by: Eris Discordia
Size doesn't matter, it's what you do with it?
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2005.11.05 17:02:00 -
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I come from a crowd where ransomming is not considered piracy.
Pirates Kill for the Loot to make the isk
Kidnappers hold people to ransom.
But yes there is isk to be made but its not as high as people like to think.
Besides theres too many pirates in EvE at the moment. |
EvilTwin I
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:40:00 -
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YES !
Give people a fair chance to pay, act loyal, ask for something not-too-insane-high-isk-amount = yup |
Ank Myrandor
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:54:00 -
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if you're a wasted no good pirate you, can always make a stupid alt and lower your'self to real scummmm ....
ore-thieving
- just saying this as a pirate ;) -
True Amarrians are Dutch !!
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Rhodry Amarrian
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: DeMundus
Lets just say ASCN and ISS, soon are sponsering me a navy BS
Considering one of your guys just lost a Rattlesnake with about 1bn isk+ worth of mods on it I can only assume that pirating must be incredibly profitable. 
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Ange1
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Rhodry Amarrian
Considering one of your guys just lost a Rattlesnake with about 1bn isk+ worth of mods on it I can only assume that pirating must be incredibly profitable.
Poor Rawthorm will be back in business soon enough
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DeMundus
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rhodry Amarrian
Originally by: DeMundus
Lets just say ASCN and ISS, soon are sponsering me a navy BS
Considering one of your guys just lost a Rattlesnake with about 1bn isk+ worth of mods on it I can only assume that pirating must be incredibly profitable.
His loss not mine.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2005.11.07 12:50:00 -
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Many pirates have a second account that they use for a steady income, less fortunate players, like myself, just need to make sure they don't fly expensive ships ( dont fly what you cant afford) not die often and loot***** like crazy.
Then you can easily make a living out of it It's also a very fun way of living in EVE.
I heart all, some more then others though. |
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.11.07 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Grankor
Pirates dont make a living....
THEY MAKE A KILLING!!!! YARR!!!
true.
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.11.07 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
Many pirates have a second account that they use for a steady income, less fortunate players, like myself, just need to make sure they don't fly expensive ships ( dont fly what you cant afford) not die often and loot***** like crazy.
Then you can easily make a living out of it It's also a very fun way of living in EVE.
Is it just me or did eris just admit to being a pirate?
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Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.11.07 23:20:00 -
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Oh Eris my dear the qeen of the pink....Yeah baby!!!!!!!
Anywhoo, I kill to make money if the opertunity presents itself for a ransom yes but usally the same ol song and dance so it's, kill, kill and loot the stuff from your dead ship.
Piracy or ganking whatever ya want to call it has its peaks and valleys, I usally run on a very slim wallet becouse I'm a noob 
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!!
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Dr jekyII
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Posted - 2005.11.07 23:29:00 -
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pink pirates |
Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2005.11.07 23:30:00 -
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Popping a Taranis with 7 BPO's worth a bill each is fairly profitable for a decent 30min camp.
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EvilTwin I
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Posted - 2005.11.08 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
Many pirates have a second account that they use for a steady income, less fortunate players, like myself, just need to make sure they don't fly expensive ships ( dont fly what you cant afford) not die often and loot***** like crazy.
Then you can easily make a living out of it It's also a very fun way of living in EVE.
NO !!!
Using ALts for small-time piracy is INSANE LAME !!!
Use your real char .. PLAY the game !
and make it happen !
*if you cant make it happen, then dont do piracy.
ALts are just as lame a fake ID's !
Sorry to flame you Eris ..BUT I would never have thought You would use ALTs in this game.  its a ROLE game ! |
Verone
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Posted - 2005.11.08 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
Then you can easily make a living out of it It's also a very fun way of living in EVE.
Damn straight.
I've made a living out of piracy for a long time now. Building trust with the community and your customers for their release when they pay is the hardest part.
I can't remember the last time i had a ransom offer refused
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2005.11.08 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: EvilTwin I
Originally by: Eris Discordia
Many pirates have a second account that they use for a steady income, less fortunate players, like myself, just need to make sure they don't fly expensive ships ( dont fly what you cant afford) not die often and loot***** like crazy.
Then you can easily make a living out of it It's also a very fun way of living in EVE.
NO !!!
Using ALts for small-time piracy is INSANE LAME !!!
Use your real char .. PLAY the game !
and make it happen !
*if you cant make it happen, then dont do piracy.
ALts are just as lame a fake ID's !
Sorry to flame you Eris ..BUT I would never have thought You would use ALTs in this game. its a ROLE game !
Yeah it is a role playing game, so you can play different roles on different characters
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EvilTwin I
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Posted - 2005.11.08 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Psycarne
Yeah it is a role playing game, so you can play different roles on different characters
Dont hate the player : Hate the game
My view of the game:
hide behind several charecters and alts is just like cheating if you cant figure out the game.
Personally I think its a shame you can have 3 chars per account. WHY ? Play x3 roles when you only can train 1 of em.
Its a ROLE game !!!
On the package it doesnt say " ROLES Game " 
unless they made a typing error when they printed it
PLAY THE GAME !
just enjoy it ! |
EvilTwin I
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Posted - 2005.11.08 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Psycarne
Yeah it is a role playing game, so you can play different roles on different characters
find the bear u like |
Psycarne
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Posted - 2005.11.08 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: EvilTwin I
Originally by: Psycarne
Yeah it is a role playing game, so you can play different roles on different characters
find the bear u like
My bears got removed 
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.11.08 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 08/11/2005 21:49:19
Originally by: Eris Discordia
Then you can easily make a living out of it It's also a very fun way of living in EVE.
So, what do you do about local ruining your chances of piracy where as people catch on they just insta dock as soon as you enter local.
Unless there is a player monoploy in the north that doesn't watch local like the south does. Then I need to maybe move 
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.11.08 22:27:00 -
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If I take time to play eve, I hunt alone. Why share the loot with sum swashbuckler if most of 'em are just additional weight anyway. You can play eve solo.
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Triniton
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Posted - 2005.11.08 22:46:00 -
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I would think most pirates have a second account, like me I have a pirate account..
PRUNES
ZOMBIE PRUNES! |
Koda
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Posted - 2005.11.09 08:01:00 -
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Piracy is very much a waiting game, i.e. waiting for your next payday (unless you're independently wealthy or have a 2nd 'bear account).
Piracy is cyclic: you're broke, you hit a score, you spend like a drunken sailor, you're broke again, rinse and repeat.
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Zeraph Dregamon
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Posted - 2005.11.09 11:39:00 -
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Targeted piracy can pay extremely well, ship scanning people beforehand and setting up elaborate ambushes/wars/hijackings can prove both hilarious and worth billions.
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Skreed
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Posted - 2005.11.09 22:42:00 -
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As a solo pirate i can make 200-300mil a week gateing and stationing. 30 a week ransoming and i always have fun
just get a frig and attack someone....shouting yarrrrr!!!!1111 in local. just if u get popped be quiet in local... put in place is not nice feeling, lol
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Rydark
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Posted - 2005.11.10 00:34:00 -
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I always wondered about gate camp. How do you gate camp when you are alone? Just tank it with enough guns to kill a frig/indy only?
Don't the sentry guns shoot for 150dmg/sec or more? |
Oiri Yusko
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Posted - 2005.11.10 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: EvilTwin I
Sorry to flame you Eris ..BUT I would never have thought You would use ALTs in this game. its a ROLE game !
But we're all alts ...
Yes, I have a pirate alt, and it's currently standing on it's own. Took a little to make it stand up straight
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Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.11.10 20:01:00 -
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I have to say that in my ratting days, the most money was made two ways.
1. Barge go Boom. Big. Yellow. Bullseye.
2. Don't ransom an indie for ISK, if you're lucky enough to get one that doesn't have enough WCS. Don't scrap him, either. SURE, you might get a decent chunk from those yummy expanders, but the most money I ever made (enough to put my corp I used to run all from their frigs to cruisers and BCs, plus kit them with the gear) was by demanding someone drop their cargo or be destroyed. It was kind of an experiment, but the guy was from a nubbish corp that had been around only slightly longer than he had. As it turns out, he was hauling part of their corp hangar, but was more worried about his personal losses than the corps loss.....
He jettisoned the cargo, though he'd be cute and shoot it out of the sky with his little railgun, but his shot missed. My missiles at point blank range didn't. Didn't have the skills for WCS, so I took out his intie for his insolence in one salvo and left him to float in the pod. A total of 50mil was made for the corp off the jettison can, and I kept the 8mil in cargo expanders from the wreckage as my personal bonus.
Normally I wouldn't kill after a ransom, but that guy asked for it.
"You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!" |
Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.11.10 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Psycarne
Originally by: EvilTwin I
Originally by: Eris Discordia
Many pirates have a second account that they use for a steady income, less fortunate players, like myself, just need to make sure they don't fly expensive ships ( dont fly what you cant afford) not die often and loot***** like crazy.
Then you can easily make a living out of it It's also a very fun way of living in EVE.
NO !!!
Using ALts for small-time piracy is INSANE LAME !!!
Use your real char .. PLAY the game !
and make it happen !
*if you cant make it happen, then dont do piracy.
ALts are just as lame a fake ID's !
Sorry to flame you Eris ..BUT I would never have thought You would use ALTs in this game. its a ROLE game !
Yeah it is a role playing game, so you can play different roles on different characters
I think you guys are misreading her. It looks like she's saying that many people use second accounts/alts, but she herself doesn't, instead flying more replacable ships and not taking stupid risks. She just put in a comma where she needed a period.
Originally by: Eris Discordia with the help of a Harbrace
Many pirates have a second account that they use for a steady income. Less fortunate players, like myself, just need to make sure they don't fly expensive ships ( dont fly what you cant afford), not die often, and loot***** like crazy.
Then you can easily make a living out of it It's also a very fun way of living in EVE.
More sensible?
"You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!" |
Alexander Kiernov
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Posted - 2005.11.11 04:04:00 -
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yay for ISD's pirate alts! 
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2005.11.11 10:11:00 -
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Well u dont make much money from ransoming, unless its a hac or your lucky to get a vauleble ship which is very rare, you're lucky to get 5-10 mil from a mining bs as they know they are 100% insured.
Gate ganking is where the moneys at but its boring and leaves a load of **** that needs to be hauled and sold
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