Join ISD and work with them. Many Developers are former ISD members or people who have put time into the community/game.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Volunteer_program

Edit: This isn't going to get you a programming job but you might have a good chance of joining the community team.

I seen Mint got a "job" with CCP as a mod or something. How does someone go about doing this, or do they have to have a large amount of fans backing them? Also, are mods a paid job or a volunteer job?

I am asking because I'm in between jobs right now, and I don't have enough to move to one of CCP's locations.

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I've been checking for a while now and there hasn't been any global jobs.

The worst time to look for a job...is when you are out of a job.

Most people out there treats people who doesn't have a job like crap.

You're 100% right on that. I have an aerospace degree, I'm 25, and I have a background with NASA. (I would've had a job if NASA didn't do a massive layoff after the man spaceflight thing)
Anyways, I've been looking for a job for a while now. I've only been on a handful of interviews, and I found some disturbing things. Most people out there treats people who doesn't have a job like crap.

At least you're 25 and still "marketable".

Get laid off from a company after 30 years and over 50, chances of finding another job with similar pay is next to nil. That's flipping burgers or forced retirement.

Did you minor is CS by chance? As that's more marketable, aerospace is a very narrow aviation field. Better to hit up Boeing / Lockheed-Martin.

I didn't have this problem when I randomly decided I wasn't going to work for 18 months & blew all my savings to get by, but I guess when you work in an industry where literally 70% of the people in it aren't suitable for the work...

My advice would be to pick a profession where you can build a portfolio. I will be an employed software developer very shortly and I got the job over other experienced developers because I have build a website showing off some of my fancier programs. A portfolio goes a long way.

As far as Boeing and Lockheed. There is a few jobs they said they would hire me for, but they wouldn't relocate me. Obviously, I couldn't take it because of that.

Practice on this sentence "No sorry, the logs don't show anything."

On-site is preferred of course and like any decent company we pay for your move, so don't worry about that.

On-site is preferred of course and like any decent company we pay for your move, so don't worry about that.

As far as Boeing and Lockheed. There is a few jobs they said they would hire me for, but they wouldn't relocate me. Obviously, I couldn't take it because of that.

Iceland looks like an awesome place, in summer the nights are 20 minutes long or something lol, I'd love to work there, as long as i dont have to learn the ridiculous language!! (Sorry native Icelanders :)

But who in their right mind would want to move to Iceland, or god forbid Atlanta.

Don't know, rest of GA considers Atlanta alien, too.

But can't knock the cost of living; the availability of jobs, nor 2hrs from the mountains/Atlanta or the Atlantic Ocean...or where I live, the best golf in the world. ;)

lol yeah our community is great

But who in their right mind would want to move to Iceland, or god forbid Atlanta.

But who in their right mind would want to move to Iceland, or god forbid Atlanta.

But who in their right mind would want to move to Iceland, or god forbid Atlanta.

Yup, confirming that ISD volunteers aren't paid.

There are perks to the job of course, but you'll have to join to find out about that :)

It's also true that having a history in ISD is no bad thing when coming to try to get a job at CCP.

ISD isn't about the rewards though, other than the reward of knowing that you're helping your favorite game to run smoothly, and in my case being a part of our great community <3

Iceland looks like an awesome place, in summer the nights are 20 minutes long or something lol, I'd love to work there, as long as i dont have to learn the ridiculous language!! (Sorry native Icelanders :)

CCP have jobs in more locations than that.

Practice on this sentence "No sorry, the logs don't show anything."

But who in their right mind would want to move to Iceland, or god forbid Atlanta.

I like Atlanta, even if the summer can get a tad on the hot side.

But who in their right mind would want to move to Iceland, or god forbid Atlanta.

I like Atlanta, even if the summer can get a tad on the hot side.

At what stage in the two years between jobs was that?

On-site is preferred of course and like any decent company we pay for your move, so don't worry about that.

But who in their right mind would want to move to Iceland, or god forbid Atlanta.

This is coming from someone that's worked (and lived) in 4 different countries over the past 15 years.

3) The "NASA" word in your CV is a very serious one

4) In the event that you do land an offer which does not contain a relocation package, do what you can to put together some money that will allow you to travel to your destination and find a cheap place to stay.

Not answering job posts on the basis that relo is not in the package is a huge mistake imho, because after 6 months to a year this "rough" patch you had been through will be gone, and you will have a job and you will be building up your career.

Err not really. Outside of 2 posting for SF, every job listing was in Iceland or Atlanta. China doesn't count because well its China.

I like Atlanta, even if the summer can get a tad on the hot side.

To me there just seem to be 2 options in regards to this:

- I don't care enough about the game so why bother
- I care enough to not want to see the man behind the curtain and the strings because that would spoil my enjoyment of actually playing


Also I don't believe that CCP is a healthy work environment, someone who actually wants to excel and demand/produce quality (see my sig) would probably go insane there.

It sounds like you've made your mind up already

In regards to your second point however, I can assure you ISD see no further behind the curtain than necessary to perform our roles. I know nothing about the game coding, other than what I can assume by the fact that I'm a Software Engineer in my day job.

It doesn't spoil the game for me, and in fact, the ISD community are often very inspired to play the game in different ways, we have a lot of veterans and if often inspires me to 'do something'

But who in their right mind would want to move to Iceland, or god forbid Atlanta.

Hmmm... I don't know how I would feel about doing EvE for a living. You would risk turning your fun hobby into a job. It could ruin EvE for you! ...or I guess it could be fun and awesome.

I like Atlanta, even if the summer can get a tad on the hot side.

Hmmm... I don't know how I would feel about doing EvE for a living. You would risk turning your fun hobby into a job. It could ruin EvE for you! ...or I guess it could be fun and awesome.

Iceland looks like an awesome place, in summer the nights are 20 minutes long or something lol, I'd love to work there, as long as i dont have to learn the ridiculous language!! (Sorry native Icelanders :)

Are you implying that eve is not a job?

Just applied for the QA job at Atlanta Georgia. http://www.ccpgames.com/en/jobs/job-details.aspx?jobid=466

Just got a auto rejection e-mail

CCP does QA?

All software companies does QA. QA is a very very important role because without it the game could have a lot more bugs, glitches, crashes, hacks, and so on. QA is the last line in manufacturing and software development before the stuff goes to the public. (The biggest reason why they are important is the sooner you find and fix the problem, the less money will come out of the companies pocket. I forgot if this was apart of my lean training, or six sigma.)

You need to adjust your sarcasm detector, or, whoever built it needed to do more QA.

You mention how getting a job is hard while not having a job because people think you are lazy, and even if you put on a nice suit with gold boots and a diamond helmet people just will keep trying to look under you and say... well you still have not job and look lazy... wow... impressive its like if they though about who you are not who you try to look to be
I dont know what jobs you tried to get, but you need to do something about THAT, people wont change for you and start taking more risk then they need to, YOU need to prove to them that you are not lazy, so get up of your ass out of these forums, and do some work for free, volunteer for community service allot, do boring and long grindy stuff for a week or two...

Then you come back to them and tell them you are still looking for a job, since you had nothing to do you did community work instead, that changes allot of how much lazy they think you are.... make sure to pic things that affect business's in a good way, like fairs and so on where some people market them selves....

This will get you a better job, if you are not whiling to do this then yes you are in fact lazy.

Yup, confirming that ISD volunteers aren't paid.

There are perks to the job of course, but you'll have to join to find out about that :)

It's also true that having a history in ISD is no bad thing when coming to try to get a job at CCP.

ISD isn't about the rewards though, other than the reward of knowing that you're helping your favorite game to run smoothly, and in my case being a part of our great community <3

I'd fix my building if the manager gave me tools and materials. But they want me to apply for a volunteer position and have 10 years of work experience just to plaster and paint some spots in the hall that they won't bother paying someone to fix.


However there are things you can do from where you are to keep yourself busy. Too bad the money you get for that is enough for internet and one meal a day. The longer you go without a job the less physically capable you'll be of even volunteering, as you slowly starve to death from lack of food. Then they'll call you lazy for not volunteering or not looking for work you can't do anymore.

- I care enough to not want to see the man behind the curtain and the strings because that would spoil my enjoyment of actually playing

Let me offer my own 2 isk and hopefully it helps:

I have a BA in Accounting & Finance (and a minor in philosophy.) I worked for 5 years as a stock broker. One day about 2 years ago I decided to quit my job for a variety of reasons.

Over those 2 years I did things similar to you.

But you know what the difference was?

I didn't tell anyone I was unemployed because I wasn't. I was self-employed. And it sounds like you are too.

Going forward, I suggest you tell your prospective employers the full truth.

Tell them that you are self employed. You do freelance work. You create video game guides, etc.

The point isn't how much you make, it's that you are doing SOMETHING.

And when they ask, just tell them....

It's not working as great as you would have hoped, so you've decided to re-enter your field (or whatever makes sense on the job application.)


Now, as far as working for CCP. I'd love if they'd have me.

Personally, I'll probably start with the CSM then ISD, and go from there. And I'd love to move to Iceland!

I didn't want to point the obvious out, but how is someone going to afford the gas money to do community things. Also, what if your area doesn't have anything for you to do. I'm thinking you're thinking the average city is USA is something slightly less than New York. In fact, the average city is far from that. The average city tends to have more people that live away from the actual city itself, and more in the outskirts. The average person in the average city tends to have a gun because it would take so long for the cops to show up. (Ironically I found the average city across the USA tends to have a few fire stations, and most cities don't even have cops because. If there is cops then there is 4 or 5 of them.) The average city is surrounded by farms. Some farms are over 50 acres. In fact, it's an automatic thing that when you run out to town you automatically spend between $5-$10 in gas in a 25mpg car. BTW that's why people say it's cheaper to buy things online.
From what I seen the average city tends to have virtually no community service. (Unless you like to be hit with a car going 60, you can't clean up the roads) The only thing I think you can regularly volunteer at is at a old folks home. (So I'm going to say on my next interview I can build rockets or planes because I volunteer at an old folks home? NO) (I've traveled a bit, and that's the average city. And that's pretty much where I live.)

Now there is companies out here. But none of them are hiring. Sadly my choices are as follows.

1. Hope the state can give me a job. (I've been barking up that tree for a while)
2. Have my site and hobbies become my full time job. (I've already been trying that.)
3. Hope a manufacturer opens up a good (not crap pay/work) job. (Again, if they did I would've already had something)
4. Hope I can find a remote job. (I can't find too many out there to start with)
5. Go back to school, and hope the market is better when I get out. (I will do this if I can't find something soon)

There is so many people in my area that an interviewer for a sheet metal company for an entry level QA job said over 80 thousand people applied to that ONE job. (The reason why I didn't get that job is it turns out they screwed up the job listing. I listed it as an entry level, when it should've been for someone that had 10 years of experience. They wanted a second in command of the plant and all QA.)
Now IDK if those 80 thousand were in this area. But, that's the numbers I'm fighting against.

but South Ga, 2 miles from FL line the heat and humidity sucks it felt like it was over 100F yesterday :(

Would it help if I told you it actually was over 100F where I live today? 109F, specifically?

(Unfortunately I don't have anything useful to contribute to help the OP. Sorry, man.)

i was in Phoenix today...112F at 7pm...ewww....

Try even 100F with 30+% humidity.

It's simply unbearable. Everything sticks.