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David Blight
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.05 06:28:00 -
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Yesterday I had a strange experience during mining. When I got to a belt there were about 40+ ships mining, most of them were Procurers around a big ship where they loaded up their ore, and all of them had the same name like Spritti01, Spritti02, etc, up to Spritti43. I checked the info and all of them had the same pilot, Sprittie. I doublechecked it, because I thought there is no way to control more than one ship, but it seems the guy managed it somehow.
The procurers cleaned up the entire belt in about ten minutes and warped out.
Is this legal? And if so, how is that possible? How can you have control of fourty ships?
If this is a legal way, then I guess I have to change my profession, there is no point struggling with two strip miners against this. |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University
Ivy League
283
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Posted - 2013.06.05 06:55:00 -
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if he has paid or plexed all of them on separate accounts I don't see anything wrong with it.
Unless of course he's using third party software to control them all but i don't think so since strip miners have like a 3 minute cycle he has more than enough time to change rocks. |
Neor Deninard
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 07:03:00 -
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43 ships -> 3 minute cycle time -> 180 / 43 = 4.2 seconds per ship to scan, target and start mining 2 or 3 new roids? And then splitting it out over an entire belt ... and getting them to drop off ore and get back to mining.
Either very inefficient or very very good with computers ;) |
Ace Menda
Phoibe Enterprises
2
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Posted - 2013.06.05 07:14:00 -
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Sounds like someone who uses ISBoxer too me. That program is legal.
Ooh and you can have as many accounts as you wanted too. |
David Blight
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 08:13:00 -
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Ace Menda wrote:Sounds like someone who uses ISBoxer too me. That program is legal.
Ooh and you can have as many accounts as you wanted too.
Wow, I've looked up ISBoxer... I guess, that's the solution, but this is soooooo lame... :)
Well if that's legal there's nothing more to do. I hope there are not many more of these losers around.
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Nayo Renyk
New Eden Armored Dragoons
17
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Posted - 2013.06.05 08:16:00 -
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Legal? Probebly. Over stepping it a bit? Id say hell yes.
I seriously cant comprehend people that do this and can still fall asleep with a dry face. |
Neor Deninard
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.05 08:25:00 -
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It remains a hell of a nice way to burn 44 x 15 dollars a month, or waste many many hours earning the 44 x 550 million isk for the plexes :) |
Xeraphi
The Gun Runners
9
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Posted - 2013.06.05 09:17:00 -
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Did you look for another belt or get jealous and give up? Nothing stopping you from making an army of miners if that's what you want to do. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
9072
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Posted - 2013.06.05 09:36:00 -
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There's also nothing to stop you having some fun at his expense by fitting a cruiser with a MWD and using it to play pinball with his ships and bumping them away from the 'roids.
I eat your hatred for breakfast, then wash it down with your tears. |
erg cz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 09:56:00 -
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If I can have as many accounts as I like to, is it legal to:
1. create 5-10 tryal accounts per day,
2. fish 5-10 mio from buddy programs of different players
3. spend those mio on the market
4. load goods into cargo hold
5. abandon rocky ship.
6. go to main account and board abandoned ship.
7. sell the cargo.
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David Blight
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:53:00 -
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Xeraphi wrote:Did you look for another belt or get jealous and give up? Nothing stopping you from making an army of miners if that's what you want to do.
I went to another system and continue mining. Jealous is not the word I would use. I'm not jealous I just simply think if there's a guy who can vacuum a whole system in an hour and left no mineable asteroid and there will be more of them it will simply kill the mining for others. There will be no point mining with one ship the "normal" way. But if it happens I start something else, I'm trained in other things too. Nothing to be jealous.
I understand that I can do the same, but it's really far from what I want to do, but I guess everyone enjoys different things. Me for example never felt the need to blow up weaker ships in low-sec just because they are there... |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
410
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:56:00 -
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The solution here is warping in the middle of them with a full rack of Smartbombs |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
367
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:58:00 -
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erg cz wrote:If I can have as many accounts as I like to, is it legal to:
1. create 5-10 tryal accounts per day,
2. fish 5-10 mio from buddy programs of different players
3. spend those mio on the market
4. load goods into cargo hold
5. abandon rocky ship.
6. go to main account and board abandoned ship.
7. sell the cargo.
You only get the rewards if you subscribe the trial accounts, so if you want to pay for 5-10 subscriptions just to get a couple billion ISK suppose you could. Pretty inefficient way of going about things. Buying 5-10 PLEX and selling them would probably get you more ISK for the same RL money. |
erg cz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.05 12:20:00 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:[quote=erg cz]
You only get the rewards if you subscribe the trial accounts,.
Not any more. If you check buddy invite thread you will find Ace offering 7 mio, Vhei offering 5 mio without obligations or need to upgrade account. I believe I saw someone else, who offered even 10 mio jusst for using his buddy link for tryal...
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Zanzbar
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
135
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Posted - 2013.06.05 13:51:00 -
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erg cz wrote:Elena Thiesant wrote:[quote=erg cz]
You only get the rewards if you subscribe the trial accounts,. Not any more. If you check buddy invite thread you will find Ace offering 7 mio, Vhei offering 5 mio without obligations or need to upgrade account. I believe I saw someone else, who offered even 10 mio jusst for using his buddy link for tryal...
well if enoguht people started abusing it then they simply stop offering tne isk. they are hoping that the early no obligation isk earns them all the buddy invites and that enough of these end up subscribing to turn a profit. |
erg cz
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.05 13:56:00 -
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Yes, but this is not the question. The question is "is it legal" to create few tryal accounts per day ? Cause with current offer EVE can ends up having more accounts, than total population of the planet ;) |
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
68
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Posted - 2013.06.05 15:44:00 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:erg cz wrote:If I can have as many accounts as I like to, is it legal to:
1. create 5-10 tryal accounts per day,
2. fish 5-10 mio from buddy programs of different players
3. spend those mio on the market
4. load goods into cargo hold
5. abandon rocky ship.
6. go to main account and board abandoned ship.
7. sell the cargo. You only get the rewards if you subscribe the trial accounts, so if you want to pay for 5-10 subscriptions just to get a couple billion ISK suppose you could. Pretty inefficient way of going about things. Buying 5-10 PLEX and selling them would probably get you more ISK for the same RL money.
Not really he would get a free plex on the sponsering account + use the ones he plexed for a month as an army of miners, making him a $zillion. If you are the kind of player who buys 10-20 plex a year it is good way to earn a serious bonus on top of your plex as long as you calculate in the time to mine them.
Still way too maniac for me...
Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first. |
Psychotic Monk
Aero Warp Orb Xenopus
1260
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:18:00 -
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You called the multiboxer a loser...
Why?
[url]http://belligerentundesirables.com/[/url] |
Haulie Berry
906
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:24:00 -
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David Blight wrote:Xeraphi wrote:Did you look for another belt or get jealous and give up? Nothing stopping you from making an army of miners if that's what you want to do. I went to another system and continue mining. Jealous is not the word I would use. I'm not jealous I just simply think if there's a guy who can vacuum a whole system in an hour and left no mineable asteroid and there will be more of them it will simply kill the mining for others.
Yeah, this isn't new, and people have been doing it for years, so you may as well check the doomsday prophecy at the door.
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David Blight
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.06 07:46:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:You called the multiboxer a loser...
Why?
I think this whole multiboxing is killing the game experience. On the other hand if any player is better then me, faster or does things more efficient and this way gets ahead of me it's fine, but this method is cheating in my eyes even if it's legal. |
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
3635
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Posted - 2013.06.06 07:54:00 -
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erg cz wrote:If I can have as many accounts as I like to, is it legal to:
1. create 5-10 tryal accounts per day,
2. fish 5-10 mio from buddy programs of different players
3. spend those mio on the market
4. load goods into cargo hold
5. abandon rocky ship.
6. go to main account and board abandoned ship.
7. sell the cargo.
CCP might take a dislike to you for blatantly exploitative behaviour :)
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
erg cz
Sliperer
3
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Posted - 2013.06.06 09:25:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:
CCP might take a dislike to you for blatantly exploitative behaviour :)
And what will be consequences of this "dislike"? Ban? Empty wallet? |
Trudeaux Margaret
London Elektricity
The Aurora Shadow
1
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:26:00 -
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David Blight wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:You called the multiboxer a loser...
Why? I think this whole multiboxing is killing the game experience. On the other hand if any player is better then me, faster or does things more efficient and this way gets ahead of me it's fine, but this method is cheating in my eyes even if it's legal.
People multibox in every MMO I've ever played, and it's always been allowed by whatever the game's developer's EULA. Are you new to gaming or something, that seeing this would be such a surprise? I'm not being snarky here -- it's a serious question. I can't fathom thinking of a multiboxing miner as someone who is "cheating". In fact, there are so few rules in this game, and what rules there are are very plainly laid out, that spotting actual cheaters is a pretty simple thing to do.
Granted, the very first time I stumbled across The Wis doing his ice mining thing, my breath was genuinely taken away. That guy really does take multiboxing to a whole new level. But if he can handle it without botting, more power to the guy.
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David Blight
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:15:00 -
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Trudeaux Margaret wrote: Are you new to gaming or something, that seeing this would be such a surprise? I'm not being snarky here -- it's a serious question.
Actually I am. :) I've tried some MMO before but didn't went in too deep. EVE seems much better to my taste. I like the sandbox.
About multiboxing, it's really not that big deal, I just didn't know how is that possible, but if it's ok around here than it's fine by me. I still have a feeling that if CCP would want players to use multiple ships same time they would put the possibility into the game, but I totally get your point. If people think about this as something "cool" - I can live with that. |
energypills
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:13:00 -
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Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:The solution here is warping in the middle of them with a full rack of Smartbombs
Like a geddon? Got a fit for that? You got me thinking now. |
Boomhaur
135
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:40:00 -
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Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:The solution here is warping in the middle of them with a full rack of Smartbombs
Great minds think alike that was my first thought.
Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |
Cyrano Buckminster
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.09 02:37:00 -
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What is "mio"? Million? |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1500
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:59:00 -
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energypills wrote:Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:The solution here is warping in the middle of them with a full rack of Smartbombs Like a geddon? Got a fit for that? You got me thinking now.
You mean something like:
[Armageddon, Armageddon: SmartBomb Geddon]
[Empty Low slot]
[Empty Low slot]
[Empty Low slot]
[Empty Low slot]
[Empty Low slot]
[Empty Low slot]
[Empty Low slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
Large Plasma Smartbomb I
Large Plasma Smartbomb I
Large Plasma Smartbomb I
Large Plasma Smartbomb I
Large Plasma Smartbomb I
Large Plasma Smartbomb I
Large Plasma Smartbomb I
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]
Sure, it has no tank, and will cap out in 40 odd seconds, but this is a highsec gank. Tank won't save you, and 40 seconds is longer than you'll last.
Just remember to do it soon, as battleship prices are going up.
Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :)
Handy tools and an SDE conversion
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2013.06.09 14:43:00 -
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David Blight wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:You called the multiboxer a loser...
Why? I think this whole multiboxing is killing the game experience. On the other hand if any player is better then me, faster or does things more efficient and this way gets ahead of me it's fine, but this method is cheating in my eyes even if it's legal.
My dear Capsuleer, you have very easy choices here to counter this;
1. Go mine Veldspar in missions.
2. Mission then buy Ore.
3. Reprocess cheap meta items and sell salvage, buy ore.
4. Multi box yourself.
5. Join a mining corp or form one thus thou shalt become the locust.
6. Gank them.
7. Bump them.
8. Awox them.
9. Buy plex buy ore.
10. Move to lower sec system such as 0.5 cause most don't like mining there with long Concordonkin wait times.
Here in eve the choices are many YOU must make eve a place of fun or stress. |
Demolishar
United Aggression
887
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Posted - 2013.06.09 14:50:00 -
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Posting in a thread that is blatantly not by a new player, but by someone with an anti-ISboxer agenda. |
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