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Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2013.06.10 13:04:00 -
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Ellendras Silver wrote:i aint a miner but its pretty much only solo content in C4 or higher after PI is done
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Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:32:00 -
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Ellendras Silver wrote:Lenier Chenal wrote:Just use a venture. Those things are annoying to catch, even with a 3+ point scram. just becaue i was curious i tried it men takes forever to mine decent amount no that isnt an option
Now I'm not much of a miner. Although I do generally mine (2 retrievers) for maybe an hour every couple of months. Its just enough to get the minerals I need for polymer reactions (which is also just something to do when I'm bored).
I just mined for an hour post odyssey and managed to live. WH mining still sucks and I don't know why anyone would bother. |
Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2013.06.10 20:28:00 -
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Kalel Nimrott wrote:Cause all of those lasers hitting those rocks is badass
well put it this way. The mining (while boring as is) isn't the worst part it seems to me. it's the aftermath that would really make me want to gouge my eyes out. |
Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2013.06.11 11:03:00 -
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Ellendras Silver wrote:Max Godsnottlingson wrote:For all those who say that WH mining has been killed by the new changes. This is what happened to me yesterday.
I was mining Ark in a Retriever,
Cloaked Stealth Bomber warps in,
I run away, bug out of system and look for another WH to ninja.
OK, it wasn't that simple, it took recon, planning and setting up, but that was the outcome. The changes mean that now, you have to plan a mining Op in a WH system, especially if you are a solo miner like me.
What it has done is hamper afk mining in WH systems and has made people to actually have to play the game.
And no, I am not going to tell how I set up my Op, it's not rocket science and if you can't work it out for yourself you shouldn't be in a WH system. Also, because it's not rocket science it probably won't be that difficult for somebody to come up with a counter. The longer that can be delayed, the longer I can keep doing what I have to do before I try implementing Plan 'B' riddle me this... how much ISK an hour you make doing that? because without boosts and only in a retriever you cant make that much. damn its more profitable to do missions in HS i am sure! so the risk vs reward is completly out of balance in WHs and the logistics to get it compressed => moved to HS => correct station with standings + where the rest of your ore is => refinning it and moving it back tho the last step is optional come on too much risk and too much effort for too few isk is pretty much why nobody wanna do it
Forget the risk. Effort alone makes it not worth it. |
Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:04:00 -
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1c3crysta1 wrote:I really think that WH mining needs a new refining module with a good throughput/efficency to open it up to a larger audience. Having to use an iteron for every load of ore that you mine isn't worth it.
Just remove the 75% hard cap from the refining array would fix alot. |
Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:12:00 -
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Nathan Jameson wrote:1c3crysta1 wrote:I really think that WH mining needs a new refining module with a good throughput/efficency to open it up to a larger audience. Having to use an iteron for every load of ore that you mine isn't worth it. Costs over a bil, but it's called a Rorqual.
Not the same, and hardly as useful as a non-broken refining array would be. |
Derath Ellecon
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:41:00 -
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Chris Winter wrote:Ellendras Silver wrote:Nathan Jameson wrote:
Costs over a bil, but it's called a Rorqual.
yeah real handy and how you going to get it out of the C4 oh wait you cant... thnx If you're doing enough mining in your hole, it's still worth it to have a Rorq, even if you can't ever take it out.
It would be interesting if anyone ever did an actual ROI calculation on building a rorq inside. And it still isn't a substitute for a decent refinery. At best a Rorq can compress what ore you need to haul out. Refining into minerals gives you the option of hauling out or building.
I could forsee it being fun, even for the larger WH entities, if you could actually build say, T1 cruisers etc inside. What fun you could have with cheap ships that you didnt have to run to HS to replace every time. Just a thought. |
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