looks like you geting your wish i have to take my pos out and move out of wh space congrats

to bad its costing you 4 acounts

let the flames begin

Hi there,

I don't want to lock this for ranting, but it would help us to understand why you're feeling this way?

There are indeed many things on the market that are all over the place at the moment, if that's your problem ?

Eh, if this is about fuel prices, anyone with half a brain can afford that with literally any and all activity in wspace no matter what class hole they live in. If it's about the changes to scanning, which I think it is, all that's really changed is that now it is even more important to pay attention. If you're not ready nor willing to do that, too bad so sad, wspace is better off without such players anyway.

Hi there,

I don't want to lock this for ranting, but it would help us to understand why you're feeling this way?

There are indeed many things on the market that are all over the place at the moment, if that's your problem ?

Hi there,

I don't want to lock this for ranting, but it would help us to understand why you're feeling this way?

There are indeed many things on the market that are all over the place at the moment, if that's your problem ?

i live in a c1 high sec with crapy pi so your statment about any one can make 500ish mill a month is invalid you have to take in acount that i have other costs as well as fuel there are replaceing ships as well lost mods yes i can make good isk even in the c1 but i also lose more fights than i win because of numbers me versers 2 to 5 some times

lol you said its a i quit made me think of wrestling no its a i have 2 months worth of fuel and 2 months of sub left ill see how it goes but i probly cant pay you to work my ass off to play your game post

You're unsubbing 4 accounts over a few hundred mil isk per month?

You shouldn't be running four accounts if such a small change in costs screws you. Your fault, not ccp. Thanks for your generous contribution to my tear jar.

price of fuel is to high i cant afford to keep my pos running past a month or so and yes i have stock pile for about 2 months stored but i don't think it will go down before i run out

way i see it i shouldn't be forced to play the way some one else wants me to play

i can make that even in the c1 i live in by pi on the 2 acounts i use to plex but thats spending about 2 houres a day just on pi thats boring as hell ever time i get some sigs spawn some one from a larger wh eather comes in and farms them while im gone or in a force to large to fight used to afk mine cant do that now (and befor you say yes i know its stupid to afk mine in a wh but i do it with one guy cloaked on the static to here fire and i dscan ever so often so its not 100% afk ) and im not going to grind out to get level 4 missions they are boring as hell as well so what am i missing that you are doing to make 1.5 bill just for pos fuel and 2 plex

i thought about that but i realy dont want to be a leader and then there is all that buisnes of weeding out spies and corp stealers and all that good stuff

I am sure the null sec propagandists who profited immensely from these changes just gloat and say "suck it up, change your playstyle."

Why would they when it has nothing to do with nullsec?

Eh, if this is about fuel prices, anyone with half a brain can afford that with literally any and all activity in wspace no matter what class hole they live in. If it's about the changes to scanning, which I think it is, all that's really changed is that now it is even more important to pay attention. If you're not ready nor willing to do that, too bad so sad, wspace is better off without such players anyway.

i thought about that but i realy dont want to be a leader and then there is all that buisnes of weeding out spies and corp stealers and all that good stuff

I really don't see a need for you to become a leader. There are other things that corporations can do aside from pew-pew.
Strike a deal with another corp, even a C1 wormhole has a lot to offer. And someone running one alone will be very welcome by some of the newer mining corps, e.g..

Make sure you screen for potential partners carefully. The market is the market. It will always change and sometimes what was profitable yesterday, ain't anymore the next month. There can be many reasons for it. Expansions being just one of them.

i also just want to put it on paper for the record
1.i like most of the changes
2.im not saying change ice back or even the spawn amount
3.im not even crying about the gaves alltho i think the risk verser reward is one sided to risk now


all i am saying is that a change that digs this deep into the economy of eve should have been discused with the players

only thing i would change is the 4 houre respawn time so the price of ice can stable if you want to make it deplet thats fine make it respwan and have to be scaned down or something

edited to add i am mostly happy with the changes the new fire sound is a anoing tho lol

way i see it i shouldn't be forced to play the way some one else wants me to play and if you disagree that's fine your welcome to your opinion even if it is wrong

Your arrogance is ******* astounding. YOUR opinion is the one that is wrong here. It was YOUR fault you can't adapt to change. YOUR fault you didnt inform yourself and prepare for the change. YOUR choice to run a POS. Nobody forced you to build a POS and nobody is forcing you to take it down.

Do you also complain to the government about petrol prices when they have no control over those? Because that's the exact same ******* situation here

For the love of god someone lock this thread.

Let me introduce you to my friend the capslock key.

oh and i forgot let me see here i thought the defention of a sandbox game was to play how you want to not how the gms want you to am i wrong on this if so by all means tell me so ccp can take that off there webpage

So exactly what kind of play is being forced onto you? What is it you dont want to do, that you are being made to do, apparently by GMs?

Competitive comes ahead of sandbox.

If it was a true sandbox then literally anything would be possible and you could, as a soloist without any friends and without competing with anyone, own the entirety of nullsec.

*rant snipped*

So you open with blaming CCP for you not being able to support a WH POS due to ice prices skyrocketing, then you say 'I'm not blaming anyone for this'. Let's build on that, because right now, you sound exactly like anyone who's pitched at fit over getting ganked while mining.

Yes, CCP created a sandbox game. Yes, the definition of a 'sandbox game' is a game where a player has total freedom to do what he wants. However, you're complaining because other players in this same sandbox are playing how they want to, which is preparing for a massive price hike by stockpiling ice like they just saw Wormwood falling from the sky. Guess what: they're playing the game the way they want to, just like I play the game like I want to and the guy who's gonna quote and snark on this post plays the way he or she wants to. Your rant is akin to 'CCP changed the game and now I can't make enough ISK anymore, so I'm quitting the game'.

Really?! Your reaction to this massive change is 'MY toy!' and pitching a fit? Don't take this the wrong way, but your emotional investment in the game is extremely dangerous. I'm not suggesting quitting, but taking a few steps back and looking this entire thread over.

Sure, there's points where I see a change and go 'oh, really, guys?', but turn around and adapt to it. There's points where I log in because I feel like mining for a bit so I'm that much closer to my materials needs, and every belt in my system is empty because mining ops have just blown through. I don't even get mad at suicide gankers that find and pop me, because even though these would always be hisec ganks, they were quick enough hits that they get the pod before the ship's explosion fades out completely and that's worth a 'gf' in and of itself.

If a change this drastic affects you this much, time to backpedal just a little and think about the situation more thoroughly.

nice wall of text and a few good points most of witch dont mean a thing to me you stated it all on your own i can no longer make money to plex the acount there for it has to go no rage crying on it and to be honest i could care less when i get poped its part of the game i lost 2 retrivers and a mac and 2 pods when i went to get a beer a few weeks back i didnt get mad i got even i folloed the guy into his system to camp it in a SB (come to find out it was not the right system that happens when you drink and play eve) i didnt get any satsfiction and come home now all that s out of the way that dont change the fact that playing the way i injoy plaaying i cant make 1.5 ish bill a month so guess what i cant fuel and plex my 2 acounts so you guesed it i have to close them mpthing more notheing less

As a solo player, I dont foresee any problems in maintaining my POS. I have about 2 months worth of fuel as well, but I feel there is ample opportunity to keep it operational.

Granted I didn't put mine in a wormhole, but that shouldn't really make that much of a difference in terms of fuel cost, should it?

As opposed to sticking with the more profitable account for the time being until you can find an alternate way to make up the loss?

U either pay to play or grind to pay.

If you cant even afford $5 a week or even spare time to grind. Then unsub and deal with RL problems first.

EvE IS only for those who can afford it in TIME or MONEY.

lol i CC 3 month sub on 2 acounts and plex 2 so yea kinda the point of the conversation i cant aford to plex and fuel my pos so i am going to stop paying to play on 3 of them i said 4 in OP i know but i will probly keep one for weekends to go wh hopeing trying to troll for easy kills

looks like you geting your wish i have to take my pos out and move out of wh space congrats

to bad its costing you 4 acounts

let the flames begin

looks like you geting your wish i have to take my pos out and move out of wh space congrats

to bad its costing you 4 acounts

let the flames begin

Resignation posts are to be placed in Out of Pod Expeerience forum and has been so moved.

Resignation posts are to be placed in Out of Pod Expeerience forum and has been so moved.

Resignation posts are to be placed in Out of Pod Expeerience forum and has been so moved.

Just Silly.

That means...we all are resigning people in here?

This is purgatory apparently.

I disagree.
Purgatory is temporary.
But this here is permanent, eternal.
Or, like Pinhead would say: "Unbearable, isn't it? The suffering of strangers, the agony of friends. There is a secret song at the center of the world, Joey, and it's sound is like ¦¦r¦¦a¦¦z¦¦o¦¦r¦¦s¦¦ ¦¦t¦¦h¦¦r¦¦o¦¦u¦¦g¦¦h¦¦ ¦¦f¦¦l¦¦e¦¦s¦¦h¦¦ kittens and Pokemon."

You forgot the ponies zimmy.

Crush?

You mean devour right?


mmmmm Souls

For reference here is the original movie again- in 30 seconds and re-enacted by bunnies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJBD6fZbVGU

Bunnies. Didn't knew this before. THANKS!!

No! Bunnies are great thing!

Crush?

You mean devour right?


mmmmm Souls