All those poeple claimng big bounties , it will only last for a while and only before you manage to seel before the others

Farming is way to easy and way to abudant amount of sites.

Note to CCP: Passive income is what funds PLEX for a lot of players, especially the ones with multiple accounts.
PLEX is what gives you money, do you really wanna push on and make more and more aspects of the game active ones?
The only thing left alive sooner or later, are macro miners, you know, the "legal" ones that only have to click once to make the action work on several clients, i don't know if i'm using the correct terminology.

Worst thing so far for me is, finding sites with nothing in them. They do not seem to despawn very quickly.

PLEASE.

First off, I ran lowsec relic and data sites for over 4 hours today and came out with about a million isk. That would have previously been over 20 million isk easily. Far more than that for the time I put in.

Second, and perhaps more importantly, there are certain containers that you can not get to. There is an outpost structure that blocks the container (though I managed to scan it and saw there was some decryptors inside!) and your drones, at least, can NOT attack the structure to blow it up to clear it out of the way.

I do see more sites spawn. Fine. That means more loot is out there...However since scanning is sooooo easy now there's also more competition AND the changes to how you gather the loot also reduces your chances of getting it all. Fine. I get that too - you want us to run in groups, etc. However problem number one... It is not worthwhile for us to split between people in a group.

So on top of the fact that it is now a lower income earning profession than planetary interaction, level one missions, and just about everything else in the game for the hours you put in...Oh, not to mention skills you train just to get better at hacking... It's more or less broken. I would really love some fixes here.

I mean, seriously...Not being able to get to containers -- that's a bug.
...and I tried every which way for over 30 minutes ramming into the freaking structure...

Agreed. Lowsec scanning is terrible now because of how many people are doing it. CCP screwed us by improving exploration, so now we can't be the special little snowflakes we used to be. Clearly Odyssey is a failure.

(go to null)

Huh. To be honest, I never actually clicked a core while a firewall was adjacent, cause it was greyed out. Lol well, I'd report that. I'll test it when I do another exploration run tomorrow. This new stuff is too much fun to not do another run.

I hear of some people doing well but I don't believe you can make a billion isk from hacking in lowsec in a few hours... First off. Second, I'm glad a dev confirmed it was bugged. Last, I read up on all of this... My skills are fine and I read the site that shows you where things are...

I know about the cargo scanner of course... So..... Am I just unlucky??

+1

always hated the idea of chasing down cans.

it is dumb.

Yea, I'm seeing some of those...But not nearly as many as everyone else claims. Your cargohold there would take me days to get at my current rate...And I read the site that tells you what's in what container.

(note: i'm also not the only one who has been getting either bad luck and/or the same experience - so i'm trying to gather a sense for how many other people are in the same boat)

This past Tuesday and Wednesday I was exploring/probing/hacking. (Solo)

In Highsec (0.5) - 4 hours netted me just over 675Million
In Nullsec - 4 hours netted me just over 1.24Billion

I had a problem accessing some cans due to them not being accessible, alas I did not log this as a problem but will do so the very next instant I come across it.

I'm not the best hotshot explorer, but hell man, this is easy ISK.

Laugh if you like (I know I did), I used a Gnosis for all the sites. No cloak fitted.
Only 2 combat sites in highsec where I switched to a Caracal, for the reason we know that BC's are not allowed into DED3's and 4s. The Caracal creamed those sites.

So far, I love the new exploration, really I do. Just a few minor issues (like accessing some of the cans), other than that, I would probably have made double the ISK in both highsec and null had I taken a buddy with me.

Thanks CCP, this truly rocks :)

Those numbers seem a bit high. The null ones I believe if you were in a region that is semi-uninhabited or whatever. The high sec numbers are out of whack though. Did you escalate a pled or something? I ask because those numbers aren't sustainable.

I hear of some people doing well but I don't believe you can make a billion isk from hacking in lowsec in a few hours... First off. Second, I'm glad a dev confirmed it was bugged. Last, I read up on all of this... My skills are fine and I read the site that shows you where things are... I know about the cargo scanner of course... So..... Am I just unlucky??

The pay for doing it right is much higher than before odyssey

Depends on your arcade/twitch game skills. If you have good hand-eye coordination, yeah you can grab up all the juiciest containers and make out like a bandit. If you don't, you get three cans of scrap and everything else goes poof. Exploration is now a game only for those with the dexterity for it... for people like me, the rewards have been nerfed into the ground.

Depends on your arcade/twitch game skills. If you have good hand-eye coordination, yeah you can grab up all the juiciest containers and make out like a bandit. If you don't, you get three cans of scrap and everything else goes poof. Exploration is now a game only for those with the dexterity for it... for people like me, the rewards have been nerfed into the ground.

The thing i'm still most pissed about, is the fact that i put at least 6 months of training research skills and countless missioning hours into getting myself in line with level 4 research agent, only to see datacores drop in value like a concrete blob.

I've even heard the new exploration sites drop them now, i haven't done those yet so i can't be sure, but if that's the case, those prices will drop even further.

Agreed. Lowsec scanning is terrible now because of how many people are doing it. CCP screwed us by improving exploration, so now we can't be the special little snowflakes we used to be. Clearly Odyssey is a failure.

(go to null)

the data cores do drop. I have 3 toons passively researching for data cores, the prices for the cores has dropped as well since this release. People are getting quick, easy access to items that people had to train countless hours for and grind countless missions for.

honestly, CCP broke R&D agents. can I have my skillpoints back please?!!!

It's only ruined if your bad. I'm sorry, but there's really no other response here. I made a billion isk in the last 2 days, just playing for a few hours after work. The new system adds some much needed interaction, and means I don't have to watch netflix to retain sanity while I'm clearing rats and waiting out my hacking cycles. I loved scanning, but the exploration sites themselves were **** before. Now they're excellent. The hacking minigame isn't amazing, but it's a nice first step and I like it because it actually does have a bit of strategy. It's like a mini roguelike game.

So not only do we not have to deal with boring tedious rats in sites, but our ability to clear sites quickly is based on some degree of personal skill. Plus with good prioritizing of cans and a cargo scanner, you can get 100% of high value loot from every site, and you don't even need to click quickly. My process for a site is cargo scan it, prioritize my cans, then when the spew happens, I casually look through for the cans of choice. Sometimes I'll waste the first 5 secodns sifting through, before clicking one can. Most sites I get all the loot I want in 2-3 clicks. If I'm feeling antsy though, I'll spam click after that, but it's usually crap, and only worth it if you want to up your income by 5% on relic sites.

Oh, and as a solo hacker, our available space went from about 800 lowsec systems, to an additional 3200 nullsec systems. That's a 400% increase in available exploration space.

There's literally no downside for the solo explorer this patch. Now I can enjoy my PvE and exploration even more, and get rich doing it, which means more time do what my other fun time of solo PvP. It's a great time for a solo pilot. Oh, and the firetail get buffed.