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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:53:00 -
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I'm not trying to stir up a lot of debate here, rather it might be fun to have a thread that gives a quick overview of all the ideas that someone doesn't like and a quick reasoning of why. if you disagree with a post please dig up an old thread about the issue and start your arguments there.
Bored in highsec? How to get into low http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ5GPtmQETo-á |

Theon Severasse
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:53:00 -
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Removing local |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
605
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:54:00 -
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I'm torn between the various solutions offered for "saves us CCP from the AFK cloakers! I cant AFK rat anymore! Halp!"
and "reduce high end clone costs" This makes the powerful more powerful, which contributes to power creep. Bored in highsec? How to get into low http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ5GPtmQETo-á |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:55:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:I'm not trying to stir up a lot of debate here, rather it might be fun to have a thread that gives a quick overview of all the ideas that someone doesn't like and a quick reasoning of why. if you disagree with a post please dig up an old thread about the issue and start your arguments there.
CVA is a pretty bad idea
Only messin with you, I couldnt help it! "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:56:00 -
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Making it FTP(Free to Play) |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2087
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:56:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:I'm not trying to stir up a lot of debate here, rather it might be fun to have a thread that gives a quick overview of all the ideas that someone doesn't like and a quick reasoning of why. if you disagree with a post please dig up an old thread about the issue and start your arguments there.
I actually saw a guy suggest that EVE would get more subs if the game put your ship and modules back in your station/hanger after you died because "having to go several jumps and dock up to get your ship back is punishment enough, no need to really destroy your ship".......
I think my reply was along the lines of GB2WoW or something. |

icy ghost
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:57:00 -
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requiring interaction to stay cloaked |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:57:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:I'm not trying to stir up a lot of debate here, rather it might be fun to have a thread that gives a quick overview of all the ideas that someone doesn't like and a quick reasoning of why. if you disagree with a post please dig up an old thread about the issue and start your arguments there.
I actually saw a guy suggest that EVE would get more subs if the game put your ship and modules back in your station/hanger after you died because "having to go several jumps and dock up to get your ship back is punishment enough, no need to really destroy your ship"....... I think my reply was along the lines of GB2WoW or something.
I think Ive just been sick into my own mouth
No wait wait, thats just my vomit-slave's mouth
Phew! I thought for a second there was something wrong with me!
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:59:00 -
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Removing Off Grid Boosters |

UKBigWolf
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:01:00 -
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WiS...
C'mon someone would say it eventually, got it out of the way nice and early |

Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:01:00 -
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To get rid of hi-sec...such brilliance is dazzling. |

Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:02:00 -
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My least favorite ideas involve - A) Making highsec safer. B) Making wormholes more like K-space or Nullsec. I think that covers a broad swath.
Theon - I enjoy how local works in K-space. Seconded. Corey - Think I'm nuetral on that, probably working as intended.
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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:03:00 -
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MTs CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:03:00 -
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The various "If EVE just became more like every other themepark MMO/copied mechanic X from them directly, it would gain a huge amount of subs." -proposals. Mainly because usually no proper thought is given to the consequenses of the addition or if it even makes any sense in EVE. The MMO graveyard is also full of such games or with the demanded feature, but it did nothing for them, so some explanation should be in order to show why it would work for EVE when it did nothing to so many others games, that were often much more compatible with the feature then EVE is. |

Paul Panala
Beyond the Shadows
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:07:00 -
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Allowing players to buy skill points with real world money. |

Velicitia
Nex Exercitus
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:08:00 -
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AFK Cloaking CVA Mining ships Making Hisec safer Hisec = safe SP for ISK/PLEX SP remaps for ISK/PLEX
All are bad because the suggester rarely (if ever) thinks about how the changes will come around and bite them in the ass. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
309
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:08:00 -
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Worst Idea ever...NRDS.
(Couldn't resist, Corey) Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Signal11th
The Retirement Club
982
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:08:00 -
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Theon Severasse wrote:Removing local
One man's terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1021
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:09:00 -
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Hiring game designers and devs exclusively from null sec. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2090
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:10:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:The various "If EVE just became more like every other themepark MMO/copied mechanic X from them directly, it would gain a huge amount of subs." -proposals. Mainly because usually no proper thought is given to the consequenses of the addition or if it even makes any sense in EVE. The MMO graveyard is also full of such games or with the demanded feature, but it did nothing for them, so some explanation should be in order to show why it would work for EVE when it did nothing to so many others games, that were often much more compatible with the feature then EVE is.
We should form a Resistance movement and call it "Anti-Ghettoization Front" or something, because that's what the "more subs" people want but don't realize they want lol.
I've asked many times why these "more subs" people think that millions of people playing EVE (well, actually playing Tidi lol) would be a good thing and they never have a good answer for it.
EVE is like Hawaii, it's cool because it's small and has nice features to play with. Hawaii , like EVe, would be several thousand times less cool if it suddenly gained several million people lol.
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Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:10:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:Theon Severasse wrote:Removing local One man's terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
And one man's serial killer is another's artiste "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2090
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:11:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Hiring game designers and devs exclusively from null sec who then spend the last 2 years mostly ignoring null sec while giving high sec people buffed barges and safeties that keep them from jumping out of pre-school and into real EVE.
I saw mistake, I fixed.
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Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
146
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:13:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: "Anti-Ghettoization Front" or something, because that's what the "more subs" people want but don't realize they want lol.
I've asked many times why these "more subs" people think that millions of people playing EVE (well, actually playing Tidi lol) would be a good thing and they never have a good answer for it.
EVE is like Hawaii, it's cool because it's small and has nice features to play with. Hawaii , like EVe, would be several thousand times less cool if it suddenly gained several million people lol.
We could call it the New Eden Defense League.... oh wait
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2094
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:16:00 -
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But more seriously, i can't even put a number to the amount of bad ideas I've seen about EVE, and it's no wonder CCP ignores most outside ideas.
The problem isn't the idea, it's the fact that the people support ideas think they are infallible. They are so infallible that "nothing could possibly go horribly wrong if ccp just fixes the game the way I tell them too".
I've had game ideas before, but actually being an honest adult human being I sat myself down and made myself consider all the possible downsides and unintended consequences that could happen with the idea and then realized that If in just a few minutes I could come up with all this, what happens when that idea get implemented and 10s of thousand of EVE players get a chance to try to break it?
End result is I end up NOT posting a stupid idea. lol. Most of these idea people are too dishonest or too arrogant to ever do that. |

Naomi Hale
Children of New Eden
153
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:18:00 -
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Introducing more modules for gate-camping without introducing modules to counter them.
Anything that involves players having or gaining advanced Jovian tech.
Reaching or being invaded by Terrans/Earth. I choose to believe what I was PROGRAMMED to believe! |

Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:21:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:But more seriously, i can't even put a number to the amount of bad ideas I've seen about EVE, and it's no wonder CCP ignores most outside ideas.
The problem isn't the idea, it's the fact that the people support ideas think they are infallible. They are so infallible that "nothing could possibly go horribly wrong if ccp just fixes the game the way I tell them too".
I've had game ideas before, but actually being an honest adult human being I sat myself down and made myself consider all the possible downsides and unintended consequences that could happen with the idea and then realized that If in just a few minutes I could come up with all this, what happens when that idea get implemented and 10s of thousand of EVE players get a chance to try to break it?
End result is I end up NOT posting a stupid idea. lol. Most of these idea people are too dishonest or too arrogant to ever do that.
Yes. So yes. Because clearly these same folk that are voting in politicians in Europe and America are doing a tremendous job making decisions on how things should be run in the real world. No of course you don't have to ever be wrong. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
147
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:21:00 -
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Naomi Hale wrote:Introducing more modules for gate-camping .
More modules?
Which modules are specific for gate campers already? "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Lucas Irvam
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:22:00 -
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Instanced anything. |

Naomi Hale
Children of New Eden
153
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:28:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Naomi Hale wrote:Introducing more modules for gate-camping . More modules? Which modules are specific for gate campers already?
I meant that people pitch ideas for new modules and there will be a stupidy overpowered one on the list that they've suggested for gate-camping and don't suggest any counter or balance for it. I'm fine with adding stuff but you've got to balance it at least a little.
I choose to believe what I was PROGRAMMED to believe! |

UKBigWolf
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:32:00 -
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Wasn't there an idea to make a pure non-PvP server a couple of months ago? Surely you can't get worse than that? |
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