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BolsterBomb
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:25:00 -
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Hey all,
Im looking for a good fit for l4 missions (gurista) with a drake or another ship. I am blitzing them. Last night I was doing my first l4 in my drake with the below fit and it was harsh....
hm II
2x invuln II 2x lse II Shield recharger II meta 4 mwd
2 x power diag II 2x bcu II
rigs:
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Kesshisan
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:53:00 -
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Guristas do about 79% Kinetic and 18% Thermal. Don't worry about Thermal resists too much.
As a Shield Tank you should be able to get a strong tank vs Kinetic very easily. Stick 1 Thermal resistance amplifier or hardener, and the rest should be Kinetic.
Also why do you have PDUs in your lows? Stick in Shield Flux Coils to increase your shield regen.
Do you have EFT? . |
Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2011.10.23 02:39:00 -
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I do lvl 4 in drake while finishing off tengu training (10 days) and Guristas are no problem. Here's my basic fit, haven't had a mission that had any real problems yet: 7xHML
3xLSE II 1x V-M15 Braced Multispect 1x Ditrigonal Therm Barrier 1x Non-Intertial Ballistic Screen Aug
2x BCU ii 2x SPR II Rigs: 3x Shield Purger
I don't use t2 shield hardners b/c of cpu/power. This setup leaves me at 1062.50/1062.50 power and 647.8/656.3 cpu. If I switched out one module for a t2 hardner I would exceed power or 100 cpu. I have 75% therm, 81.2 kinetic with a 668HP/s in shield damage. EHP 94.8k HP (pyfa). However, to fit this I have AWU 5 and elite core certificate. Your mileage may vary.
Edit: don't waste money on t2 missiles for pve |
Kesshisan
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Posted - 2011.10.23 20:15:00 -
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Buruk Utama wrote:1x V-M15 Braced Multispect
I'm pretty sure NPC jamming is either hit or miss, regardless of your sensor strength. Therefore this is a wasted module. However I have yet to personally confirm this.
Buruk Utama wrote:2x BCU ii 2x SPR II
If you dropped your 3xLSE for shield rechargers you can fit more flux coils, and get a stronger tank.
Buruk Utama wrote:Edit: don't waste money on t2 missiles for pve
A Drake will not kill most mission BSes without t2 missiles. Therefore it is not wasted isk at all. . |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2011.10.23 20:32:00 -
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Kesshisan wrote:Buruk Utama wrote:1x V-M15 Braced Multispect I'm pretty sure NPC jamming is either hit or miss, regardless of your sensor strength. Therefore this is a wasted module. However I have yet to personally confirm this.
V-M15 is the named Inv Field, not an ECCM, lol.
And to the OP, I believe this is what you're looking for:
[Drake, Guristas] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Hobgoblin II x5
838 DPS tank and 409 DPS while moving at 392 m/s with maxed skills, 495 DPS with Furies.
Also consider something like B-Type Gist Hardeners, they're not horribly expensive and they'll have better cap usage and resists. |
Kesshisan
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Posted - 2011.10.23 20:34:00 -
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mxzf wrote:Kesshisan wrote:Buruk Utama wrote:1x V-M15 Braced Multispect I'm pretty sure NPC jamming is either hit or miss, regardless of your sensor strength. Therefore this is a wasted module. However I have yet to personally confirm this. V-M15 is the named Inv Field, not an ECCM, lol.
Thanks for that. Sorry, been too long since I've used anything but T2 that I forgot the name.
Thanks for correcting that. . |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.10.24 05:49:00 -
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Kesshisan wrote:Also why do you have PDUs in your lows? Stick in Shield Flux Coils to increase your shield regen.
By which you meant Shield Power Relays, right?
And PDUs do have a place. And that place is to keep hardeners running in a very heavy passive shield tank.
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Gabbie Tinks
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:46:00 -
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Fit a Mission Drake, your running a PVP fit Drake.
No MWD, use shield rechargers, low slots use the sheild recharging mods. 2 of each type.
Use 1 Inv Field 2 and an active hardener based on your mission type.
Once your skills are up you can swap some low slots to BCS 2 for added DPS as you don't need the defense.
Remember to carry an EM midslot item for when you get the Drone Missions.
T2 what you can of the mods and you'll be fine....if you can't run the t2 versions your not ready to blitz lvl 4 missions. |
Khai'ne
True Grit.
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Posted - 2011.10.25 10:37:00 -
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[Drake, Level 4] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners Large Shield Extender II Parallel Weapon Navigation Transmitter
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Hornet II x5
Is what I used to use for level 4's in a Drake. Even on a drake, running the afterburner mitigates a LOT of the damage from guristas battleships. The target painter is for taking out frigs faster and it also lets you use Fury ammo against the cruisers if you're into that - you could swap it for more tank though, if you need it. Also well worth using Fury missiles against battleships all the time, imo - it really does kill them a lot faster. |
tofucake prime
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2011.10.25 13:28:00 -
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Gabbie Tinks wrote:Fit a Mission Drake, your running a PVP fit Drake.
No MWD, use shield rechargers, low slots use the sheild recharging mods. 2 of each type.
Use 1 Inv Field 2 and an active hardener based on your mission type.
Once your skills are up you can swap some low slots to BCS 2 for added DPS as you don't need the defense.
Remember to carry an EM midslot item for when you get the Drone Missions.
T2 what you can of the mods and you'll be fine....if you can't run the t2 versions your not ready to blitz lvl 4 missions. Please come at me with that "PVP" fit.
What you can do is just fly a PVP Drake: 2x LSE 2x Invuln, Point, MWD, 2x Nano 2x BCS. Kill all can flippers. |
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Silber Zidayn
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:36:00 -
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Blitz Drake is a oxymoron? Unless you have enough standing to refuse and pick the choice missions I just see you hitting hard missions and needing to over tank and slowly work them.
Since OP gave the option for another ship I'd like to know his skills to provide more reliable options. Can you afford a pirate/faction BS? Yes the Drake is great and with prop mod fast enough to blitz but you're sacrificing shield for speed/damage and the damage is already average. Get webbed and die. Or over tank for the "hard" missions and lose your ability to blitz.
Then add in the Guristas jamming. That kills your ability to quickly kill your blitz target or trigger target. ECCM Gravi is supposedly unreliable/bugged against NPCs as well. However, with the ECCM Grav I hardly ever get jammed and without I am jammed for 2+ minutes in a row so I do use one.
In plexing vs guristas I use:
[Drake, Guristas tank]
7x Heavy Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Heavy Missile)
2x Large Shield Extender II 2x Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II ECCM - Gravimetric II
2x Ballistic Control System II 2x Shield Power Relay II
3x Medium Core Defence Field Purger I |
stoicfaux
318
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:43:00 -
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Kesshisan wrote:
I'm pretty sure NPC jamming is either hit or miss, regardless of your sensor strength. Therefore this is a wasted module. However I have yet to personally confirm this.
Incorrect. NPC ECM jamming has been shown to be based on sensor strength. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1277798&page=1#11
So ECCM and backup arrays do reduce the chances of being jammed in Guristas missions.
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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