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Avett Brother Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:29:00 - [1] - Quote I'm a new player. Been online for like 21 days or so. I play sporadically, when I can for as long as I can. Married, kids, dogs, full-time job, etc keep me from becoming the Champion of all things Eve, but I don't mind. Its fun so far but I'm ready for some real action. So, I was wondering a few things. Is it possible/realistic to become a Fringe adventurer? What I mean by that is, can I dock somewhere in a high security area but close enough to some lower security areas that I can delve into some PVP or higher risk mining/adventuring without having to go through 9 jumps? I'd love to know that I can set up shop/base in a secure area but jump fairly quickly into some PVP. Quick enough so that if the child starts screaming I can scurry back and dock while not having to worry about a bunch of jumps. I have not PVP'd yet. (I've been killed by invisible enemies) I'm kind of ashamed by this as my nature dictates I'm a carebear. I don't wanna be that while I'm in Eve. I want to be something...different. But, all the while I need to be ready for real-life to call me back to reality. If there is some game mechanic I'm not utilizing or other suggestions then I wholeheartedly welcome them. For the record, I've mined, manufactured a few things, finished quite a few tutorials, PVE missions, outfitted ships, bought ships, sold ships, and tried salvaging (though my pods never seem to find anything. Thanks, and love this game. So damn intricate! Avett Brother
Rhivre TarNec Invisible Exchequer 262	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:30:00 - [2] - Quote Yes, it is very possible. Hek for example is an 0.5 system, and is close to lowsec system. This is a very useful site for finding highsec places next to Lowsec Dotlan
Anslo The Scope Gallente Federation 1785	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:30:00 - [3] - Quote Yes sir you can. Find a border system (0.5, 0.6) near or that is a market hub and have fun. Look at the universe map often to see what amount of pilots are present in what systems so you don't run into a gate camp without being prepared. -\_For the Proveldtariat_/-
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 4240	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:32:00 - [4] - Quote Avett Brother wrote: I'm a new player. Been online for like 21 days or so. I play sporadically, when I can for as long as I can. Married, kids, dogs, full-time job, etc keep me from becoming the Champion of all things Eve, but I don't mind. Its fun so far but I'm ready for some real action. So, I was wondering a few things. Is it possible/realistic to become a Fringe adventurer? What I mean by that is, can I dock somewhere in a high security area but close enough to some lower security areas that I can delve into some PVP or higher risk mining/adventuring without having to go through 9 jumps? I'd love to know that I can set up shop/base in a secure area but jump fairly quickly into some PVP. Quick enough so that if the child starts screaming I can scurry back and dock while not having to worry about a bunch of jumps. I have not PVP'd yet. (I've been killed by invisible enemies) I'm kind of ashamed by this as my nature dictates I'm a carebear. I don't wanna be that while I'm in Eve. I want to be something...different. But, all the while I need to be ready for real-life to call me back to reality. If there is some game mechanic I'm not utilizing or other suggestions then I wholeheartedly welcome them. For the record, I've mined, manufactured a few things, finished quite a few tutorials, PVE missions, outfitted ships, bought ships, sold ships, and tried salvaging (though my pods never seem to find anything. Thanks, and love this game. So damn intricate! Avett Brother I'll let others comment on the rest for now, but if you're being killed by invisible enemies you need to check your overview settings. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Avett Brother Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:34:00 - [5] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: I'll let others comment on the rest for now, but if you're being killed by invisible enemies you need to check your overview settings. Hey Ranger, actually this has only happened to me a few times and only within the first few days of playing. I had already read a thread (before I started playing) that mentioned what you mentioned. Apparently I was "sniped" or some such jabber. Funny in my eyes. I never got mad, just ummm....envious :).
Francine Diderot Autarky 2	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:40:00 - [6] - Quote Like the others have said, Eve is a massive, massive game with what is it? 7500 star systems by now. Dotlan that was already linked is one of the best resources. Together with EveMon it's going to be your best friend in this game. Find a border system somewhere on Dotlan and just move there. I'd suggest a border system to a faction warfare piece of lowsec because those have more traffic. Good luck.
Paul Panala Beyond the Shadows 39	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:41:00 - [7] - Quote Yes, just be warned that if a low-sec system is desirable for obvious reasons, it will be a very active system. Gate camps, combat scanners, ect, just be ready.
Dring Dingle Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement 33	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:51:00 - [8] - Quote Jan is always quite busy!
Pepper Solette University of Caille Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2013.06.07 17:04:00 - [9] - Quote Piekura is good too. One jump into Mara where you get some lowsec Pirates. There's a good lowsec pipe there and it's also a few jumps from null. Not too far from Jita as well. Good luck in your adventures.
Avett Brother Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.07 18:11:00 - [10] - Quote Awesome, thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I can't wait to get home and pick up camp then move. I'm ready to get blown up. Thanks all :)
Freakdevil Aliastra Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2013.06.07 18:38:00 - [11] - Quote PVP in disposable frigs and cruisers on a alt that you just want some PVP fun with. A few days training and then join a casual PVP corp. Perhaps something in FW. Keep your main for industrial and empire stuff. Keeps it clean and separate. Plus the dual training option is ideal for someone who has more cash than free time. Have fun!
Rhivre TarNec Invisible Exchequer 267	Posted - 2013.06.07 18:40:00 - [12] - Quote Freakdevil wrote: PVP in disposable frigs and cruisers on a alt that you just want some PVP fun with. A few days training and then join a casual PVP corp. Perhaps something in FW. Keep your main for industrial and empire stuff. Keeps it clean and separate. Plus the dual training option is ideal for someone who has more cash than free time. Have fun! I agree I have just put a new alt into FW, she has around 2m SP and is in a rifter, so keeps getting blown up when she engages stuff, but, its a lot of fun. Otherwise RvB are also good
Avett Brother Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.07 18:44:00 - [13] - Quote Really stupid question here. What is "FW"? :)
Avett Brother Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.07 18:50:00 - [14] - Quote Paul Panala wrote: Yes, just be warned that if a low-sec system is desirable for obvious reasons, it will be a very active system. Gate camps, combat scanners, ect, just be ready. Its funny, before I even started playing the game I started reading the forums, tutorials online, etc. knowing this was a huge game with very intricate mechanics. I learned about scams, gate campers, wormhole campers, and douches before I even got in game. So far, I have fallen for no scams and haven't run into very many douches. So far... With that being said, I do intend to purchase a few cheap frigates and outfit them with different loadouts. I expect to have my arse handed to me on a silver platter more times than not. I do appreciate the warning though! I've also invested in an updated clone and working on my skills to create more clones. Like one clone simply for PVP and my main for doing less risky stuff.
Rhivre TarNec Invisible Exchequer 267	Posted - 2013.06.07 18:55:00 - [15] - Quote FW = Faction Warfare Eve Uni Faction Warfare Page
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 4243	Posted - 2013.06.07 19:18:00 - [16] - Quote Avett Brother wrote: Ranger 1 wrote: I'll let others comment on the rest for now, but if you're being killed by invisible enemies you need to check your overview settings. Hey Ranger, actually this has only happened to me a few times and only within the first few days of playing. I had already read a thread (before I started playing) that mentioned what you mentioned. Apparently I was "sniped" or some such jabber. Funny in my eyes. I never got mad, just ummm....envious :). Oh no, I wasn't trying to imply you were getitng irrationally angry. Quite the opposite, your attitude is highly commendable. I'm just saying it pays to check your overview and make sure that all the player piloted ship types are checked to show up (Attack Battle Cruisers in particular), and make sure that you don't have too much unnecessary stuff cluttering your overview as that can force snipers out of your view (off the bottom of your overview, forcing you to scroll down). On mine usually only potential targets show (and often stations for quick warp outs.) To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Avett Brother Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.07 19:24:00 - [17] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Oh no, I wasn't trying to imply you were getitng irrationally angry. Quite the opposite, your attitude is highly commendable. For sure :) And I didn't read your reply as such, just a good friendly warning. And actually, your last post is even more helpful with the explanation of the overview. Because I just realized what you meant (Wasn't 100% which part of my UI was my overview - now I know!) Its like one of those great EVE mysteries has been revealed to me. LOL - I'm an idiot.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 4243	Posted - 2013.06.07 19:28:00 - [18] - Quote Avett Brother wrote: Ranger 1 wrote: Oh no, I wasn't trying to imply you were getitng irrationally angry. Quite the opposite, your attitude is highly commendable. For sure :) And I didn't read your reply as such, just a good friendly warning. And actually, your last post is even more helpful with the explanation of the overview. Because I just realized what you meant (Wasn't 100% which part of my UI was my overview - now I know!) Its like one of those great EVE mysteries has been revealed to me. LOL - I'm an idiot. No, not at all. At least not in my eyes. The Overview is one of the more complicated interfaces in the game to get set up correctly. In fact I plan on watching further UI improvements that deal with using and setting up the Overview very closely, as right now I think it is one of the major reasons why many new players get frustrated and stay in High Sec where it usually isn't as critical to survival. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
JamnOne Jammin Corp 4	Posted - 2013.06.07 19:33:00 - [19] - Quote You can always join FW. You will be a target regardless if you are in Hi Sec or Lo. You can still enjoy your carebearing nature while always having that slight risk someone is going to get you. The only problem you might have is if you need to jump quickly but your faction doesn't own the station in the area.
Cephalus Epic Logistic Dawn of Transcendence 8	Posted - 2013.06.07 20:54:00 - [20] - Quote there is plenty of stations in low sec to that you can dock up in if you need to go and watch your kid, if you go out in 0.0 however allot of stations are player owned which might prevent you from using them. and if you join faction warefare you will not be able to dock in enemy stations. alternative to using stations as safe can be to fit a cloak. gimps your ship a little but might work out for you depending on what you do.
Burseg Sardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 309	Posted - 2013.06.07 20:59:00 - [21] - Quote Seeing that you are in the Fed Navy Academy, a nearby system with immediate access to lowsec would be Villore, which you can go a couple jumps into Parts one way or one jump into Old Man Star another way, or go 3 jumps and hang with yours truly in Seyllin. Hey, as a dude that lives in lowsec, you should read my idea on how to "fix" it... in Blog format, complete with a spreadsheet! http://3xxxd.blogspot.com/2012/09/how-to-buff-lowsec.html
Avett Brother Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.06.07 21:11:00 - [22] - Quote Cephalus wrote: there is plenty of stations in low sec to that you can dock up in if you need to go and watch your kid, if you go out in 0.0 however allot of stations are player owned which might prevent you from using them. and if you join faction warefare you will not be able to dock in enemy stations. alternative to using stations as safe can be to fit a cloak. gimps your ship a little but might work out for you depending on what you do. I'm actually trying (or at least I think I am) learning the skills necessary to fit a cloaking kit. So, if cloaked, people can't see you at all even with probes? And you can stay cloaked indefinitely? Thanks for the info, very helpful!
Chief Bob Swine Capitalism 4	Posted - 2013.06.07 21:26:00 - [23] - Quote Red vs. Blue is also a good way to do some casual pvp if you don't have a lot of time to play cat and mouse in lowsec. Generally the opposing side will be running around in cheap-fit frigates too and fights are never hard to find.
Capt Tenguru10 Nintendo Power Against ALL Authorities 838	Posted - 2013.06.07 21:27:00 - [24] - Quote No now contract me your stuff http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif
Cephalus Epic Logistic Dawn of Transcendence 9	Posted - 2013.06.08 00:00:00 - [25] - Quote Avett Brother wrote: Cephalus wrote: there is plenty of stations in low sec to that you can dock up in if you need to go and watch your kid, if you go out in 0.0 however allot of stations are player owned which might prevent you from using them. and if you join faction warefare you will not be able to dock in enemy stations. alternative to using stations as safe can be to fit a cloak. gimps your ship a little but might work out for you depending on what you do. I'm actually trying (or at least I think I am) learning the skills necessary to fit a cloaking kit. So, if cloaked, people can't see you at all even with probes? And you can stay cloaked indefinitely? Thanks for the info, very helpful! yes cloaks stay on indefinitely and are 100% probe safe. you can get decloaked if someone gets close enough (2000m if i remember right) but if you cloak on a safe spot where no one saw you cloak the chance of that happening is basically zero.
Hessian Arcturus S.W.O.R.D. Navy 124	Posted - 2013.06.08 01:14:00 - [26] - Quote Been reading through this thread and I must say: Firstly, welcome to EVE. Secondly, very impressed with your attitude. You sir will go a long way in EVE. +1 I look forward to meeting you on the field of war! It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.
Hessian Arcturus S.W.O.R.D. Navy 124	Posted - 2013.06.08 01:16:00 - [27] - Quote Cephalus wrote: Avett Brother wrote: Cephalus wrote: there is plenty of stations in low sec to that you can dock up in if you need to go and watch your kid, if you go out in 0.0 however allot of stations are player owned which might prevent you from using them. and if you join faction warefare you will not be able to dock in enemy stations. alternative to using stations as safe can be to fit a cloak. gimps your ship a little but might work out for you depending on what you do. I'm actually trying (or at least I think I am) learning the skills necessary to fit a cloaking kit. So, if cloaked, people can't see you at all even with probes? And you can stay cloaked indefinitely? Thanks for the info, very helpful! yes cloaks stay on indefinitely and are 100% probe safe. you can get decloaked if someone gets close enough (2000m if i remember right) but if you cloak on a safe spot where no one saw you cloak the chance of that happening is basically zero. i also like to mention since i said that fitting cloaks gimps your ship and may not be optimal for pvp, there are some pvp ships that are ment to be used whit cloaks. look into stealthbombers and reconships like the pilgrim. they can be perfect ships for the fringe pvp'er. Just quickly also pointing out, you can be decloaked by ANYTHING coming withing 2000m of your cloaked vessel. Including probes... But the chances of that happened are pretty slim... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.
Lusty Wench Nox Incurro 84	Posted - 2013.06.08 02:01:00 - [28] - Quote Avett Brother wrote: So far, ... and haven't run into very many douches. Hi.
Avett Brother Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.06.09 01:41:00 - [29] - Quote Lusty Wench wrote: Avett Brother wrote: So far, ... and haven't run into very many douches. Hi. That made me LOL out loud. Thanks again all. I'm in the midst of picking up shop. Gonna get my crap together on my Venture and wander close to 0.6. Excited!

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