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Naomi Hale
Children of New Eden
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Posted - 2013.06.08 18:58:00 -
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In a recent interview CCP Fozzie said that Ring Mining isn't something currently being worked on and may never be. While Fozzie could have been misinformed or not part of that particular area of development, it does concern me as it is an area and a feature I was looking forward to and am intrigued by. I'm not demanding it or asking for it to be the next thing in EVE but it is something I would one day love to see come to the systems of New Eden.
So if people still want it please show your support here and hopefully the CSM can let CCP know it's still something the players of EVE want.
Source - CCP Fozzie interview the particular statement I'm refering to is at 43:45 minutes into the interview.
Thank you.
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Terian en Cedoulain
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.08 20:06:00 -
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I would like to see the current asteroid belts simply be placed in a ring formation around the sun with about a dozen fields available. Maybe put some "empty roids" in the background to complete the picture of a ring of asteroids. This would be in line with their latest concept of changing the "spacescape".
An expansion later, they could possibly change some other things, such as making only veldspar and scordite commonly available, and making the more valuable asteroids available in a similar manner as ice fields. Like, if you mine out the plagioclase ore anomaly, which is in a random spot somewhere along the ring of asteroids, then it would respawn some time later in another spot of the asteroid ring or even another system's asteroid ring (imo they should also somewhat randomize the systems where ice spawns).
These seem like fairly minimal effort changes that could open the field for something larger that I can't think of right now. Mostly I just think it would be nice/more immersive/less silly than the current asteroid fields. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.09 06:12:00 -
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Saying that "ring mining is not currently in the cards" is not the same as saying that significant revamps to moon mining aren't in the cards. After Technetium alchemy was introduced, Fozzie promised "more changes in the future" and here we are in Odyssey. And with the Odyssey devblog, Fozzie said that, let's see...
Quote:Phase Two is not the end of our plans for Tech Two industry and mineral collection. We are not entirely satisfied with the mechanics of moon mining itself and would like to make changes in the future to provide more opportunities for active gameplay that can be disrupted by small groups of pilots. However we are confident that Phase Two will both improve the health of the game as a whole and lay a stronger foundation for the future iterations.
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Personally, my opinion has always been that the concept of ring mining was a rough idea wrapping up several necessary design criteria for any moon mining revamp but that the specifics were open for interpretation.
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Naomi Hale
Children of New Eden
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Posted - 2013.06.09 08:11:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Saying that "ring mining is not currently in the cards" is not the same as saying that significant revamps to moon mining aren't in the cards. After Technetium alchemy was introduced, Fozzie promised "more changes in the future" and here we are in Odyssey. And with the Odyssey devblog, Fozzie said that, let's see... Quote:Phase Two is not the end of our plans for Tech Two industry and mineral collection. We are not entirely satisfied with the mechanics of moon mining itself and would like to make changes in the future to provide more opportunities for active gameplay that can be disrupted by small groups of pilots. However we are confident that Phase Two will both improve the health of the game as a whole and lay a stronger foundation for the future iterations. SourcePersonally, my opinion has always been that the concept of ring mining was a rough idea wrapping up several necessary design criteria for any moon mining revamp but that the specifics were open for interpretation.
First, thank you for replying, I know the CSM sometimes can't or won't comment on certain issues but it is nice when they do.
Secondly, I'm not entirely sure why you have assumed that Ring Mining must be in someway linked to Moon mining and Tech II production, if I'm missing a post, announcement or dev blog then please let me know.
My purpose was simply to show player support for the activity of Ring Mining as another branch of mining and not for it's larger implications on production, PoSs or anything else. I saw it as an alternative activity to mining Belts and Clouds and something for miners to do, not all miners can or want to maintain and manage a PoS or it's production chain. Also, with the trend of moving certain items out of NPC hands and making them player created comes a potential need for new minerals, ores or resources that Ring mining could provide without stepping into the area of Tech II production.
Finally (not aimed at Mynnna but general readers), when I say Ring mining it's important to understand I mean Planetary rings and not Rings of Asteroids, that would be Belt mining and is an entirely different debate.
Thank you.
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Benteen
Drone A.I. Servicing Inc.
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Posted - 2013.06.09 09:28:00 -
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I actually like the idea of the all roids being in a true ring around the sun...
something that would make life more interesting for miners is to have them look almost the same and be generically named until you run a scanner on them or try to refine them, this would make the scanner a useful tool instead of hanger clutter (I don't know of any miners who use one these days due them only telling you how much is left in that particular roid).
The nameless convention could be carried almost all the way to refining stage and have a few useless materials thrown in too to mix it up. You don't want the useless stuff? Fit a scanner so that you can avoid mining it in the first place.
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.09 10:00:00 -
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Naomi Hale wrote:Secondly, I'm not entirely sure why you have assumed that Ring Mining must be in someway linked to Moon mining and Tech II production, if I'm missing a post, announcement or dev blog then please let me know.
Soundwave's initial comments at last fanfest talked about putting moon minerals in the rings.
And in response to the OP, mining in general badly needs a revamp and expansion, whether that specifically involves ring mining or some other new type(s) of mining is of lesser importance.
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
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Naomi Hale
Children of New Eden
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Posted - 2013.06.09 11:50:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Naomi Hale wrote:Secondly, I'm not entirely sure why you have assumed that Ring Mining must be in someway linked to Moon mining and Tech II production, if I'm missing a post, announcement or dev blog then please let me know. Soundwave's initial comments at last fanfest talked about putting moon minerals in the rings. And in response to the OP, mining in general badly needs a revamp and expansion, whether that specifically involves ring mining or some other new type(s) of mining is of lesser importance.
Ah, thank you.
I've watched some of this year's Fanfest but not all, would this be the "Game Design - Balancing Tears & Laughter" part?
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