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Stetson Eagle
ROC Academy
The ROC
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:27:00 -
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Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.
Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising? Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on? Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox. |
Popsikle
Hard Knocks Inc.
15
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:31:00 -
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Stetson Eagle wrote:Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.
Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising? Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on? Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox.
wutlol?
1.) You still need the skills to use the modules/drones/whatever
2.) they are getting pricey because they were limited run... not really noob friendly. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14741
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:33:00 -
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Stetson Eagle wrote:Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing. Because it's a 10-year anniversary ship that cannot be reproduced through in-game means, and is meant as a celebration of the game and its players.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew
253
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:36:00 -
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Stetson Eagle wrote:Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.
Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising? Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on? Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox.
I think you are serious.
What day old account is going to even have a full flight of drones to undock and be able to fit it to be anything but a lossmail?
Just because there are a lot of shiny bonuses on the hull does not mean that the ship is magical and grants untrained skills.
Tilde soaked words from something kinda like a pirate. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
325
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:38:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Because it's a 10-year anniversary ship that cannot be reproduced through in-game means, and is meant as a celebration of the game and its players.
Don't we still have BPCs coming with the Special Edition? Even then, it's still going to remain a limited issue item.
Also, OP, a day one noob won't enjoy nearly as much versatility as someone who actually has some SP to back up the Gnosis' built in role bonuses. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2006
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:39:00 -
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I wonder how many newbs quit because their precious Gnosis popped in the very first lvl 3 mission they tried.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Bloodpetal
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal
The Mockers AO
1278
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:40:00 -
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They're going up in price cuz I'm blowing them all up because noobies think they're all awesome in them, when they fit 50mm plates to them... 
Where I am. |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:42:00 -
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Stetson Eagle wrote:Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line?.
Its Jovian and a present
Stetson Eagle wrote: 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.
Yup, and a LOT of 1 day olds can die screaming in their Jovian coffins too.
Stetson Eagle wrote:Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising?
No but godforbid a company might try and build their user base. You're right, its just sick that they would want fresh blood. (Mmmmmmmm fresh blood)
Stetson Eagle wrote: Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on?
1) And.... so? 2) No. Why on earth would they?
Stetson Eagle wrote: Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox.
Please explain how it will in no less that 1000 characters.
Can I have your Gnosis?
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Litair
Donchian Stripes
28
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:56:00 -
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I do believe it's not an accident we all got a Gnosis very close to the expansion. It's a quite decent exploration (battle)cruiser that allows every player to go out and explore with pretty good bonuses, without being a dedicated explorer already. It just so happens that Odyssey is about exploration.
Quite lucky you would have a free exploration ship waiting in your hangar then, ready to go with all the preset bonuses, no? :o |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
195
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:00:00 -
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Litair wrote: *words I didnt read because I was looking at your face*
Your face is as pretty as the OP's face isnt
*lick*
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Haulie Berry
1024
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:15:00 -
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Stetson Eagle wrote:Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.
Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising? Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on? Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox.
Yes. Every new player is going to receive limitless gnosis, in fact, so they have a good strong do-anything ship to fly while they train up their skills.
It wasn't going to be this way, but they decided to do so just now, out of spite, in response to your shiptoasting.
Seriously though, did you wake up this morning and think to yourself, "Self, what completely idiotic non-issue can I whine about today?" |
Litair
Donchian Stripes
29
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:18:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Litair wrote: *words I didnt read because I was looking at your face* Your face is as pretty as the OP's face isnt *lick*
*dries face*
Um thanks, I think ^-^ |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
196
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:21:00 -
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Litair wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Litair wrote: *words I didnt read because I was looking at your face* Your face is as pretty as the OP's face isnt *lick* *dries face* Um thanks, I think ^-^
You are very very welcome, angel x
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Alexa Coates
Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC
633
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:23:00 -
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OP are you just completely oblivious to everything ever?
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers. |
Yaz Raholan
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:43:00 -
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Well, i'm a complete noob and i took mine out and quickly realized i had no business being in one, and quite frankly was pretty useless in my hands. So i sold it so i have some spending cash. lol.
Not only that i don't find it a very attractive ship. Maybe that's just me tho. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
807
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:45:00 -
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It's always struck me as ironic that the guys who present themselves as so macho and hardcore, always telling people to "HTFU" or, "Adapt or Die", are the ones who are most resistant to any change in the game. Seems they also hate the fact that CCP is a business that wants to attract new players in order to grow their bottom line.
The most hilarious thing is when they lay the blame for everything at the feet of "new players who have it too easy". What a bunch of crotchety, whiny bittervets.
Follow your own advice all you change averse types; "HTFU".
What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
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Posted - 2013.06.11 16:12:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Litair wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Litair wrote: *words I didnt read because I was looking at your face* Your face is as pretty as the OP's face isnt *lick* *dries face* Um thanks, I think ^-^ You are very very welcome, angel x
Hey hey hey, don't forget you're engaged. 
Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Steel Olgidar
HRG Inc.
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Posted - 2013.06.11 16:23:00 -
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The Gnosis is either a profit or loss for any new player. i sold mine and got cruisers instead.
I've seen many flown die and I prefer being able to buy new ships if I get popped. |
Esharan
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2013.06.11 16:31:00 -
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Are they going up? I need them to get back to 200 mil a pop.... |
Matthew97
Pro Synergy
205
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Posted - 2013.06.11 16:40:00 -
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I fully agree that they are newbie friendly, as shown in the link below:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18128283
Run level 4 missions? Don't want to salvage? Let us salvage for you, and then pay you for it! -áJoin our Channel: Pro Synergy
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Steve WingYip
Lumodynamics Power Control Corp
Panda Cave
1080
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Posted - 2013.06.11 16:52:00 -
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Stetson Eagle wrote:Why is there a ship out there that is completely out of all design line? 1 day old can fly it with with full ship bonuses to drones, weapons and probing.
Is this a ploy to keep new character and account numbers rising? Power of two had a ridiculous effect on the sales numbers, making eve look like a rapidly growing game. Will every paying newbie get a bonus gnosis later on? Greed is good, but don't let it kill the purity of the economic warfare and the sandbox.
It is completely limited. It's not like they will be able to stock these things. Once they are destroyed, after the BPO are used, that's them all gone. |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
198
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Posted - 2013.06.11 17:00:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Litair wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Litair wrote: *words I didnt read because I was looking at your face* Your face is as pretty as the OP's face isnt *lick* *dries face* Um thanks, I think ^-^ You are very very welcome, angel x Hey hey hey, don't forget you're engaged.
I can have as many spouses as I wish
Thats the benefit of being a High Priestess of the Amarrian Suicide Cult ;)
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
202
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Posted - 2013.06.11 17:26:00 -
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Litair wrote:I do believe it's not an accident we all got a Gnosis very close to the expansion. It's a quite decent exploration (battle)cruiser that allows every player to go out and explore with pretty good bonuses, without being a dedicated explorer already. It just so happens that Odyssey is about exploration.
Quite lucky you would have a free exploration ship waiting in your hangar then, ready to go with all the preset bonuses, no? :o
No to mention the limited edition exploration frigates we all got at Xmastime |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
198
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Posted - 2013.06.11 17:39:00 -
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A crack developed and a name blew in
Billy gnosis, weak and thin
He moved to california to start a new life
Because back in his hometown he just killed his wife
Oh billy cant remember his name
Billy gnosis was going insane
And soaked in blue light he played and played
I can still hear the sound he made...
Billy burned his phone and blew up his car
He sat and watched tv and played the guitar
And read a book that made his head spin
How could he have known that there were worms within?
And the worms ate into his brain
Through his eyes and through his ears they came
They made a home so they could multiply
And feed on billys chemicals in paradise.
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Selene Nask
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:04:00 -
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I've been playing since January and it's only now that I feel anywhere remotely comfortable using it. By comfortable I mean that I'm not just going die a quick and firery death because I don't have the support skills to fly it well. Yeah sure I could have flown it several months ago as an even newer newb (if we had it back then) but I wouldn't have because I would have been pretty useless at doing much with it. There's no way I would have survived the two attempted ganks in low sec yesterday if I was really new newb.
As others have said it's a limited edition meant to go with the exploration theme of the expansion. It makes sense in that context. This past week I've found it a great all in one exploration vessel at least for HS and quieter LS areas. I'm having a lot of fun in it and its serving that purpose quite well. I have 4, from character gifts. One got blown up due to a rather inconvenient power failure which leaves 2 more for use. One will stay in a ship collection hanger.
I think of it as a fun, temporary ship to use while quantities last and as I skill into a cov-ops explorer. It isn't meant to be a ship that fits in with permanent design lines because they will be used less and less over time as they get blown to bits. It was designed that way from the get go.
Oh and it is rather fun flying around knowing that when some people see "Gnosis" they just want to blow it up because "Hey Gnosis" no matter what security space you're in. It adds some unique tension and makes surviving an attack way more satisfying.
I think they're great. |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
198
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:08:00 -
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Selene Nask wrote:
"Hey Gnosis"
Hey Gnosis, don't make it bad.
Take a sad song and make it better.
Remember to let her into your heart,
Then you can start to make it better.
Hey Gnosis, don't be afraid.
You were made to go out and get her.
The minute you let her under your skin,
Then you begin to make it better.
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
255
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:23:00 -
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Yaz Raholan wrote:Well, i'm a complete noob and i took mine out and quickly realized i had no business being in one, and quite frankly was pretty useless in my hands. So i sold it so i have some spending cash. lol.
Not only that i don't find it a very attractive ship. Maybe that's just me tho.
I thought it looked good in some preview screenshots, but then I got in mine and spun it around the station a few times and quickly lost interest. not an attractive ship indeed.
You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
198
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Posted - 2013.06.11 18:28:00 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:You can trust me, I have a monocole
Let's see. "Mono" means "one,"
And "cole" is a type of slaw.
We're looking for one slaw.
Do you mean monocle?
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Bloodpetal
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal
The Mockers AO
1279
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:47:00 -
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I like mine better :
http://aomockers.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11454
Where I am. |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:49:00 -
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Sorry babes, I cant see anything :(
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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