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Sabotaged
Angels and Demons Inc. Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2013.06.12 02:55:00 -
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Plex - 560 mil isk Mining - 8 mil isk/hr
http://oi44.tinypic.com/atoi6q.jpg
As you can see the first account takes a little over 36 hours of mining(work).
the 2nd account adds only 12 hours of additional mining(work) to cover both accounts. about 1/3rd the time.
The difference between having 9 accounts or 10 accounts is only 40 minutes more work per month to gain an additional 8mil isk per hour.
The difference between 10 accounts and 20 accounts is only 3 additional hours per month with a gain of 80 mil/hr on top of the already 80 mil.
Essentially after a certain point, it costs you almost nothing to open new accounts, while your isk/hr ratio continues to rise linearly. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.06.12 02:57:00 -
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Really?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Liam Shotson
Rainbow Dash Goes Red Rainbow Dash Friends
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:01:00 -
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STOP FOR ONE SECOND AND THINK. . . How are you intending to run 20 clients at once efficently without ballsing up, missing a beat, locking the wrong roid, depleting too soon, depositing into the orca. . . Getting the orca to dump into the freighter... I can only assume this isn't in one belt so good luck. |

Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
130
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:04:00 -
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What! No, this isn't right...you're supposed to link to another part of the forum... This is twice you have let me down now Doc! *tableflip*  It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Moon Mare Night
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:06:00 -
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Liam Shotson wrote:STOP FOR ONE SECOND AND THINK. . . How are you intending to run 20 clients at once efficently without ballsing up, missing a beat, locking the wrong roid, depleting too soon, depositing into the orca. . . Getting the orca to dump into the freighter... I can only assume this isn't in one belt so good luck. u not know what isboxer is i guess |

Bloody Wench
532
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:08:00 -
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Sabotaged wrote:Plex - 560 mil isk Mining - 8 mil isk/hr http://oi44.tinypic.com/atoi6q.jpgAs you can see the first account takes a little over 36 hours of mining(work). the 2nd account adds only 12 hours of additional mining(work) to cover both accounts. about 1/3rd the time. The difference between having 9 accounts or 10 accounts is only 40 minutes more work per month to gain an additional 8mil isk per hour. The difference between 10 accounts and 20 accounts is only 3 additional hours per month with a gain of 80 mil/hr on top of the already 80 mil. Essentially after a certain point, it costs you almost nothing to open new accounts, while your isk/hr ratio continues to rise linearly.
8 mill / hour x 36 hours does not equal 560. (288)
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Sentamon
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:10:00 -
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omg! tomorrow I'm opening up 100,000 free accounts.
You sir should get a government job. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Bloody Wench
532
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:21:00 -
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70 hours for the first account.
Since your income is not exponential like you seem to think, it still takes 70 hours for every account you add.
1 account requires 1 PLEX 8 mill /hour * 70 = 560 (enough to PLEX)
2 Accounts require 2 PLEX
Your income is now 16 mill / hour, but your PLEX cost is now 1120.
Take a wild guess how many hours that will take.
70..
If you can PLEX 1 account through mining you can PLEX how ever many you want to, but you still have to do 70 hours per account.
Any profits over and above 8 / hour over the duration of 70 hours, will be x # of accounts, if that was your point?
Regardless the growth is still linear. |

Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:38:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:omg! tomorrow I'm opening up 100,000 free accounts.
You sir should get a government job.
With economic prowess like that, I'm sure he already has one. |

LethalGeek
Red Ochre Mining and Exploration Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:43:00 -
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No one cares you spaz. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:46:00 -
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Tumahub wrote:Sentamon wrote:omg! tomorrow I'm opening up 100,000 free accounts.
You sir should get a government job. With economic prowess like that, I'm sure he already has one.
I think perhaps he is a Treasury Secretary, past or present, or perhaps a CDO salesman. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:51:00 -
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Sabotaged wrote:Plex - 36 hours of mining People actually play like this? I feel sorry for you. Oh god. |

DreznicK
OORt Cloud Research The OORT Cloud
0
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:57:00 -
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The only players that I knew that ran 10 or 20 miners at once where all in null sec. Why, simple cause high-sec roids aren't big enough to support all those accounts at once.
Although at one time I could see someone doing it for ice anywhere, but I would say that option has been removed.
So possible yes, will you see it in null most likely. 20 accounts all mining in high-sec (BOT) |

MicDeath Titan
Twilight Star Rangers
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:15:00 -
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Well, my method is to pre-setup bookmarks for all my miners. Once I get set up, I just warp to the first point, my naming system is, "Mine 1", "Mine 2", "Mine 3", etc. and just alternate once I start hitting 10k units left.
One of the Miners is set to use a freighter. Once I get 3 cans sitting for each miner I run back to the station, collect the cans, go back to mining. 100% up time of mining links, not so many miners in a single belt = less competition by ones own self. It also lets solo miners mine without affecting your overall performance.
The only main issue is trying to keep up with not wasting cycles, but really, you try doing it on 10+ accounts, it gets preeeeety damn hard yo.
I don't use my Orca to haul, since that is wasting my cycle timers. The time I lose by not having that cycle up really adds up. This how my mining op looks like. I plan to get 3 more miners once I get more ram, and those 3 are already trained up. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/cascade_zps976da79a.png |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
387
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:21:00 -
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MicDeath Titan wrote:Well, my method is to pre-setup bookmarks for all my miners. Once I get set up, I just warp to the first point, my naming system is, "Mine 1", "Mine 2", "Mine 3", etc. and just alternate once I start hitting 10k units left. One of the Miners is set to use a freighter. Once I get 3 cans sitting for each miner I run back to the station, collect the cans, go back to mining. 100% up time of mining links, not so many miners in a single belt = less competition by ones own self. It also lets solo miners mine without affecting your overall performance. The only main issue is trying to keep up with not wasting cycles, but really, you try doing it on 10+ accounts, it gets preeeeety damn hard yo. I don't use my Orca to haul, since that is wasting my cycle timers. The time I lose by not having that cycle up really adds up. This how my mining op looks like. I plan to get 3 more miners once I get more ram, and those 3 are already trained up. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/cascade_zps976da79a.png
That sounds really cool. I'd love to see you in action! Can you share what system and time you are normally online? If I can't make it, I may send a friend to take notes for me. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

MicDeath Titan
Twilight Star Rangers
11
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:30:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: That sounds really cool. I'd love to see you in action! Can you share what system and time you are normally online? If I can't make it, I may send a friend to take notes for me.
Oh I am sure I don't need to tell you where I mine, nor do I have to tell you what time. You can easily find me, and the times. But hey, I can make a video of mining in Eve, though there are many. Feel free to utilize Youtube. :D |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
387
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:39:00 -
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MicDeath Titan wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: That sounds really cool. I'd love to see you in action! Can you share what system and time you are normally online? If I can't make it, I may send a friend to take notes for me.
Oh I am sure I don't need to tell you where I mine, nor do I have to tell you what time. You can easily find me, and the times. But hey, I can make a video of mining in Eve, though there are many. Feel free to utilize Youtube. :D
May I suggest a livestream? I'd love to be watching it when my friends show up if I can't make it myself. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

MicDeath Titan
Twilight Star Rangers
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Posted - 2013.06.12 06:46:00 -
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I can do live stream as well. But sad to say, in Eve I use a 3 hour delay.  |

Freakdevil
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.12 07:03:00 -
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Somebody stage an intervention. |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1991
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Posted - 2013.06.12 07:10:00 -
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If you run an account and have a decent PI toon on each slot you can fully fund that account and have ISK left over. ZOMG, INFINITE ISK!!! |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
667
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Posted - 2013.06.12 08:13:00 -
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Wow. Legendary maths at work here. This is some Tesla level ****. You'd better hope the government doesn't come after you now that you know the secrets of free monies.
we're gonna make them eat our ship, then ship out our ship, and then eat their ship that's made up of our ship that we made 'em eat. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
151
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Posted - 2013.06.12 08:43:00 -
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MicDeath Titan wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: That sounds really cool. I'd love to see you in action! Can you share what system and time you are normally online? If I can't make it, I may send a friend to take notes for me.
Oh I am sure I don't need to tell you where I mine, nor do I have to tell you what time. You can easily find me, and the times. But hey, I can make a video of mining in Eve, though there are many. Feel free to utilize Youtube. :D I'm pretty sure you are in solitude. Either in Yvaeroure or Sarline (less likely to be Sarline as this is low sec) |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
510
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Posted - 2013.06.12 11:04:00 -
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Sooooo... trick question! Whatcha gonna do with all that ISK?  |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.06.12 11:09:00 -
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OP is why The Code exists
Players like this disgust me
I hope he gets ganked into the dirt for the horrendous ecological damage this kind of strip mining causes.
WAIT! Im in S&P! I need to go investigate this scum! "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Alexila Quant
Strategic Acquisitions Group Tactical Research Lab
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Posted - 2013.06.12 11:25:00 -
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Sabotaged wrote:Plex - 560 mil isk Mining - 8 mil isk/hr http://oi44.tinypic.com/atoi6q.jpgAs you can see the first account takes a little over 36 hours of mining(work). the 2nd account adds only 12 hours of additional mining(work) to cover both accounts. about 1/3rd the time. The difference between having 9 accounts or 10 accounts is only 40 minutes more work per month to gain an additional 8mil isk per hour. The difference between 10 accounts and 20 accounts is only 3 additional hours per month with a gain of 80 mil/hr on top of the already 80 mil. Essentially after a certain point, it costs you almost nothing to open new accounts, while your isk/hr ratio continues to rise linearly.
Looks like our new miner found Excel. Welcome to spreadsheets online. However exciting your post may seem, your math is flawwed.
Say you are mining at 500m/h for the sake of argument and a plex costs 500 mill. You mine an hour, and bam you have a plex. Now if you open another account, your income is now 1b/h but your plex for both accounts is now 1b. Therefor you will need to mine 0 additional minutes to plex both accounts. You just have to mine on them all at once. This works for however many accounts you have. After you have earned your plex that's where the profits grow linearly with the number of accounts you have.
I don't know what formula you used to get your numbers but it's way wrong. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2013.06.12 11:29:00 -
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Sabotaged wrote:Plex - 560 mil isk Mining - 8 mil isk/hr http://oi44.tinypic.com/atoi6q.jpgAs you can see the first account takes a little over 36 hours of mining(work). the 2nd account adds only 12 hours of additional mining(work) to cover both accounts. about 1/3rd the time. The difference between having 9 accounts or 10 accounts is only 40 minutes more work per month to gain an additional 8mil isk per hour. The difference between 10 accounts and 20 accounts is only 3 additional hours per month with a gain of 80 mil/hr on top of the already 80 mil. Essentially after a certain point, it costs you almost nothing to open new accounts, while your isk/hr ratio continues to rise linearly.
You know how in High School math the teacher always made you show your work?
You should probably do that so you can re-check your figures and assumptions.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.06.12 11:31:00 -
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Alexila Quant wrote:your math is flawwed. .
Your english is flawed
twice "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Sabotaged
Angels and Demons Inc. Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2013.06.12 11:51:00 -
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Liam Shotson wrote:STOP FOR ONE SECOND AND THINK. . . How are you intending to run 20 clients at once efficently without ballsing up, missing a beat, locking the wrong roid, depleting too soon, depositing into the orca. . . Getting the orca to dump into the freighter... I can only assume this isn't in one belt so good luck.
http://oi44.tinypic.com/2m5xqq0.jpg
Everything is done on a single screen and usually sit 1 miner into a different belt. If I did what you are "intending" there's no way I could mine for 12 hours. I usually play diablo 3 while mining.
Bloody Wench wrote:8 mill / hour x 36 hours does not equal 560. (288)
Thank you for pointing this out, this data assumes you have atleast 1 character paid by credit card, I didn't realize that was what the calculations were based on when I posted. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.06.12 11:54:00 -
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Sabotaged wrote: I usually play diablo 3 while mining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Jqu70c6XE "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

MicDeath Titan
Twilight Star Rangers
11
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Posted - 2013.06.12 18:29:00 -
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Sabotaged wrote:Liam Shotson wrote:STOP FOR ONE SECOND AND THINK. . . How are you intending to run 20 clients at once efficently without ballsing up, missing a beat, locking the wrong roid, depleting too soon, depositing into the orca. . . Getting the orca to dump into the freighter... I can only assume this isn't in one belt so good luck. http://oi44.tinypic.com/2m5xqq0.jpgEverything is done on a single screen and usually sit 1 miner into a different belt. If I did what you are "intending" there's no way I could mine for 12 hours. I usually play diablo 3 while mining. Bloody Wench wrote:8 mill / hour x 36 hours does not equal 560. (288) Thank you for pointing this out, this data assumes you have atleast 1 character paid by credit card, I didn't realize that was what the calculations were based on when I posted. Whoa, how do you mine on such small mini screens?
@Those who think what I do is a bad thing, here is a picture to show why it is not. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/micdeath/whatido_zpsb0c24498.png |
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