is that what i'm hearing? then what is it for??

the backstory is, i fitted 12 thannys before odyssey. even in the 2B range, i still have 10. not the worst mistake i've made, but damn.

nevermind my flop... i can hock them, but thannys are stuck being thannys

im about to fit them up as triage or drone boat, but im having a hard time justifying the effort. i think i'll triage fit them and price them as welp triage, and never touch thannys again. dead serial.

they need to buff fighters

reminds me of the guardian/basilisk and "then those other two" situation

what's the latest gossip about a possible fix?

they need to buff fighters

I was under the impression carriers were more or less welp logi for supers. is that correct

I thought Nyxes are quite popular. if the differences between Aeons and Nyxes are a similar situation, why are Nyx owners so proud when Thannys don't get much love

is it because the damage bonus actually means something with 20 fighter bombers? (I'm finding 8k dps/80m ehp for aeon vs 10kdps/35m ehp for Nyx)

so archons and nyxes?

on a side note dont you wish fighters got a boost?

Well, fighters are useless now... but they are frigate size, much more expensive than frigates.... I'd like to see them have the range, DPS, and tracking of frigates.
Mini fighter: basically give it stats as if it was a frigate fitted with the smallest sized autos, the electron blasters for gallente, gatling pulse for amarr, and gatling rail or rocket launchers for caldari.
If each fighter did 100 DPS, combined, they'd be a beast in small scale engagements - 2000 DPS that can actually be applied to everything from BSs down to frigates

Also I'd add the equivalent of combat utility drones -fighters that pack a full strength T1m0 web/scram/disruptor/all ewar and cap warfare variants, except ECM

Of course, with such versatility, I'd want to make two separate variants: a fighter carrier (no remote rep/energy transfer bonuses, n), and a logi carrier (No +1 fighter per level, perhaps no fighters at all).
Big fleets: dreads + logi carriers would be the order of the day, maybe with a few fighter carriers for some flexibility
"Small" gangs: you'd probably want a fighter carrier, and all the versatility it provides with high DPS and high effective tracking, plus the combat utility fighters that allow you to effective switch modules by switching deployed fighters (although you can already switch modules mid fight using the fitting services of carriers)

how long has this been going on?

I apologize; I've never looked beyond battleships. or high sec, really

For PvE, the introduction of the drone damage amplifier is what really did it. Without them, the extra low slots of an archon don't help you rat, and in fact the extra mids on the thanny for painters/sebos matter. With drone damage amps, that extra low is a big deal.

As for PvP, ever since the slowcat meta got established, I'm not sure when that was though.

They need to rebalance carriers:

Archon: stays as is
Chimera: Stays the same

Nid: Bonus applies to remote AND local reps - ie its got a good active tank, it can heal other ships better, but the lack of a resist bonus makes it not fare as well when reps are incoming

Thanny: 5% bonus to Fighter AND DRONE damage AND Hitpoints/speed/tracking/optimal per level

Then I think the carriers would be better balanced.

so about slowcats.

is it for the instant damage and welp-ability of T2 sentries compared to fighters and fighter bombers?

I fly a RR sentry rattlesnake setup (I like to call slowkittehs), so I get it, I think. tanky, insta damage, control range augs out to like... 110km with two?

I don't know what made me think Thannys would be a good buy. :-/

adding insult to injury

is it like offensive drones in logi just for kilmails, or is there more to it than that

1500 sentry drones will alpha most sub caps, you have to bomb them off our stay.100km or more away.......add a fleet and it had to make head way against it.

Add tol this the significant advantage of being able to assist all thnose drones to a fast locking T3 with a large buffer, and you don't even have to wait for the carriers to lock targets. They can happily sit there repping each other (and their designated hitter, as it were), blapping **** off the field left right and center.

A group of slowcats, when used correctly, is hard to break without just blobbing the hell out of them with alpha maelstroms or a larger group of caps/supers. And even then, you're bound to take losses.