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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2005.11.14 03:14:00 -
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I bet you a dozen pieces of metal scraps that I don't need no stinkin' pass... 
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.11.14 03:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Lord Frost
I bet you a dozen pieces of metal scraps that I don't need no stinkin' pass...
Feel free to come and make a living out there outside a station.
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.11.14 03:20:00 -
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You need an alliance with high morale to survive in our swamp  or the crocs will eat ya.
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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2005.11.14 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kyle Caldrel
Originally by: Lord Frost
I bet you a dozen pieces of metal scraps that I don't need no stinkin' pass...
Feel free to come and make a living out there outside a station.
LMAO  I have, been done, actually sold 2 offices out there for isk a while back in my old corp.
cheers mate... awww, don't cry... 
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.11.14 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Frost
For example, if I formed an alliance and claimed all of Syndicate... perhaps I'd form the first ever free alliance. The only rule is... you do not shoot anyone in your own alliance.
After that one rule, all corps are on their own.
So basically...just like now.
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.11.14 06:14:00 -
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first laugh in the morning, thanks.
on a more serious note ; you will die there.
hf
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asdfasdfaf
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Posted - 2005.11.14 06:21:00 -
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Edited by: asdfasdfaf on 14/11/2005 06:21:41
omg nasty alt account
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smasho
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Posted - 2005.11.14 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: smasho on 14/11/2005 07:57:58
stupid char mis-selection :/
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:28:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 14/11/2005 09:34:23
Anyway, I wish you good luck and I mean it this way.
There is not much to loose except some ships, some clones and a set of implants maybe.
Perhaps you don't end with an Alliance that claims the region, but with a few systems like the other groups there.
(Btw. somehow the friends of [5] live your way in Curse. They hunt enemies, roam around with mixed fleets or camp gates from time to time together, but there is nobody forcing anyone to do anything and nobody wants a payment. If you want to hunt, hunt ! If you want to mine, mine ! If you want to fly somewhere and kill people, you are free to do it.
People help, if help is needed. They have mostly adapted [5] standings, because otherwise it doesn't work, because if someone attacks your gang mate, you have to react.
Ok, there is no crokite, that's a drawback.
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:41:00 -
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Ok lol syndicate will never be fully claimed.
1. All Large allainces that live each side of the region all use the Choke points to get to empire, and they will shoot you and chase you when bored or escorting BS and or Haulers in and out.
Syndicate is a Playground of sorts if you want to look at it that way.
MHC on a sunday night is always fun and roaming the Highways to Y9G and back to 3KMK for example doesent take long for a Inty and Hac fleet to move and come kill you.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.11.14 10:55:00 -
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There's nothing to see here.
Move along.
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Rheinkraft
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:02:00 -
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I lived in Syndicate for quite some time this year, I was not in a alliance but I must say i roamed Syndicate with some of the best pirate players eve has to offer and we roamed like kings  Its just a shame hat there really isnt anything to see in Syndicate and I dont think its worth trying to claim and should be left as it is. "Syndicate cant be taimed"
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Frost
Edited by: Lord Frost on 14/11/2005 01:01:08
Is this area under any claim?
Also, why isnt there any alliance out there that are free alliances? For example, if I formed an alliance and claimed all of Syndicate... perhaps I'd form the first ever free alliance. The only rule is... you do not shoot anyone in your own alliance.
After that one rule, all corps are on their own. The alliance would welcome pirate corps, carebear corps, all corps... a space for anyone who wishes to take part in 0.0 to have space to do so.
There will be no organized political mumbo jumbo... you can use market freely, mine belts freely, camp gates if you choose. And as I said before, ONE RULE, you can't shoot your alliance members.
As time passes, perhaps the area will secure itself, people will protect themselves, form their own gangs for invaders, no one is required to do anything. They make the region what they choose it to be.
Sounds simple, easy, and basically its just an extension of the low sec in Empire. Why not do it?
K I admit I havent read all the replies so dont know if this has been mentioned.
First of all you will not be the first one with such an idea, CFS/StA/DSMA aka USF (United Free Space or whatever) were the first that tried the same sort of thing in Delve, Querious and Period Basis. Fyi I was part of StA and it was damn fun tbh but when an invader comes all corps (even neutral locals) start to takes sides and it all starts to go down hill. In our case it was a war with FA for various reasons.. The ppl in Querious distanced themselves from the rest and formed FIX (siding with FA in the war), the locals in Delve betrayed the free alliance there (with the exception of only 1 corp) and became the downfall of StA, and DSMA was just outnumbered in Period Basis and cut off from supply routes.
An alliance needs integrity, unity and a common goal to work towards; so I wish you good luck sir but I highly doubt its gonna work for long.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:19:00 -
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IIRC it was United Free Stars, btw.
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Xrak
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:27:00 -
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CFS existed way before the UFS ideas.
UFS was simply a pact between the people living in CFS space to work together and fight FA + FIX.
iirc
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Xrak
CFS existed way before the UFS ideas.
UFS was simply a pact between the people living in CFS space to work together and fight FA + FIX.
iirc
Wasn't UFS the attempt to resurrect CFS in Period Basis after the formation of Firmus Ixion?
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
IIRC it was United Free Stars, btw.
Yeah you got much better memory DS, that was like what? 2 years ago, hehe the good old times
Originally by: Xrak
CFS existed way before the UFS ideas.
UFS was simply a pact between the people living in CFS space to work together and fight FA + FIX.
iirc
Yes I know but its unnecasary to mention the whole history. First there was DSMA afaik, living in the 3 regions mentioned then CFS broke away with Delve and Querious then StA was formed in Delve, etc etc. Also what you said about UFS is true but again I just wanted to show the first poster with the syndicate free alliance idea where it will all end.. how it was all formed is pretty irrelevant and could cause some old fire to flame up again, now with 2 official forum warnings already I dont wanna be the one turning up the heat
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Xrak
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Posted - 2005.11.14 19:03:00 -
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Well yea what ever happened to CFS. Look at it now.
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.11.14 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Xrak
Well yea what ever happened to CFS. Look at it now.
Look at what? 
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.14 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Xrak
Well yea what ever happened to CFS. Look at it now.
Yeah it went missing about, what, two years ago?
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Sypher313
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Posted - 2005.11.14 21:49:00 -
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no flame intended.... well maybe a little... not much tho 
hmm yeah Lord Frost, nice idea, lots been there and tried it and lots got some "experience" out of it
and you know what "experience" is dunt ya?
well "experience" is what you get when you didnt get what you were looking for 
Free Alliance like your suggesting will be targeted and killed for **** and giggles but meh giver a go anyway
Seriously
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Linavin
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Posted - 2005.11.15 03:38:00 -
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Frankly the idea of a completly Free alliance in syndicate is redundant. Your either kos there or on good terms, there is rarely middle ground. If your a friendly corp you'll end up with some allies aswell as kos with others. Forming an alliance is just a more offical way of displaying good standing among a few corps. So why bother?
As for claiming syndicate, its impossible without a sizeable force present at all times. There are just too many stations where anyone who wants to come down to the region can make a living doing whatever they want. This is unlike the rest of 0.0 which generally provides only a limited number of npc stations, making the alliance's job much simpler (as they only need to control a few npc stations, if any). Until a super alliance can muster up a force of 300+ coordinated players to patrol the region at all times, syndicate will continue to be an uncontrollable region, a haven for those who want to do as they wish.
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invaderzim
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Posted - 2005.11.15 04:06:00 -
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I say give it a try... "what's the worst that could possibly happen?"
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Iron Jaw
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Posted - 2005.11.15 07:53:00 -
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Lol, just try and claim it, comon will give me somthing too shoot at.
Thanks for the entertaining read.
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2005.11.15 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming
Yes I know but its unnecasary to mention the whole history. First there was DSMA afaik, living in the 3 regions mentioned then CFS broke away with Delve and Querious then StA was formed in Delve, etc etc.
You're a little off. CFS was created in August of 03, ceased being relevent when the smugglers gates and conqerable stations came in, and ceased to be about a year ago. DSMA and StA weren't much more than puppet offspring of CFS that "ran" delve and period basis.
Not to be pedantic, its just that history makes the game more fun. I think it's always better to remember exactly why you hate your enemies and like your friends.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.11.15 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ichabod Crane
As for JQA, regardless of what killed them, before they threw it all away they were one of the most dedicated and reasonably well organised alliances out there.
Not to mention that we didn't claim anything close to all of Syndicate...only two secluded constellations.
Syndicate will never be tamed.
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2005.11.15 09:49:00 -
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Syndicate is like Afganistan - sure there opium to be had (read: crokite), but the locals will shoot down your helicopters, hide in the mountains and make a mockery of you!
Its a stupid place to live.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.11.15 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sphalerite
Originally by: Kunming
Yes I know but its unnecasary to mention the whole history. First there was DSMA afaik, living in the 3 regions mentioned then CFS broke away with Delve and Querious then StA was formed in Delve, etc etc.
You're a little off. CFS was created in August of 03, ceased being relevent when the smugglers gates and conqerable stations came in, and ceased to be about a year ago. DSMA and StA weren't much more than puppet offspring of CFS that "ran" delve and period basis.
Not to be pedantic, its just that history makes the game more fun. I think it's always better to remember exactly why you hate your enemies and like your friends.
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Sounds like how i remmberd it, And Sphalerite camping a2-v27 in old jk-fix in his blackbird killing ebiil pirats =)
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Lord Spidey
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Posted - 2005.11.15 16:52:00 -
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Syndicate is pretty much like the Wild Wild West of EVE. All sorts of scum and villans there(cough LIH cough) and I've run into camps worthy of any alliance trying to sneak in.
I guess the question is why form an alliance out there when everyone just claims their little slice already and knows exactly where they stand with everyone else in the region?
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Ifni
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Posted - 2005.11.15 20:24:00 -
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Hah, good luck claiming Syndicate. Whilst your idea holds merit you will find the rewards to be reaped in Syndicate will be detrimental to morale.
There was an entity known, for a while, as Nova Republic. It was an outfit of old Syndicate corporations and misfits who wanted to claim Syndicate and make it free... In the end they just couldn't bring it to the established corporations, and gave up the fight.
Even what was the pvp contingent from xCA that came down last christmas couldn't remove the pirate element, and it wasn't until we (DNA mostly, but piracy in general) had strangled the region so much, we died from our own success.
Syndicate has a layout that doesn't allow anyone to easily claim it. Combined with the corporations that have lived there a long time, and you will realise that you will never get a toehold as full time Syndicate residents.
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