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Gorgoth24
Sickology
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Posted - 2013.06.13 20:37:00 -
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I often need to go to high sec for a skill book or some small piece of riff-raff that just isn't available for a reasonable price out in lowsec. But, this means taking my outlawed bum through Jita undock, which is among the scariest places in New Eden imo. This shuttle change would make the shuttle a worthwhile ship (compared to a pod) to fly while solving some basic logistics issues for players like myself.
Change: Make the shuttle invulnerable to suspect/criminal flags
Intended purpose: Safe passage for outlaws in high sec
Thoughts/ideas?
Have I reposted?
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Zaknussem
Everybody Loves Donuts
33
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Posted - 2013.06.13 20:39:00 -
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Would render security status irrelevant and pointless.
You are a target because of your actions, this makes that a moot point.
So NO! |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2013.06.13 20:44:00 -
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LOL, no. |
Gorgoth24
Sickology
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Posted - 2013.06.13 20:45:00 -
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Zaknussem wrote:Would render security status irrelevant and pointless.
You are a target because of your actions, this makes that a moot point.
So NO!
...you still wouldn't be able to come into high sec in anything else? Seems far from making security status irrelevant. |
Shiera Kuni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.13 21:15:00 -
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I agree with Zaknussem on this. Instead, what I propose is a false transponder that has a degree of failure based on meta level. |
Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination
Nulli Secunda
267
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Posted - 2013.06.13 21:22:00 -
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Gorgoth24 wrote:Zaknussem wrote:Would render security status irrelevant and pointless.
You are a target because of your actions, this makes that a moot point.
So NO! ...you still wouldn't be able to come into high sec in anything else? Seems far from making security status irrelevant. Hi!
Instead of your idea, that would make -10.0's able to use many HS things for the sake of more arbitrary rules, CCP solved the problem in a beautiful manner.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/wanttotrade-tags-for-security-status/
It is live on TQ, and you can use and abuse to your hearts desire!
If you had run this idea through Malcanis list of 8 ways to immensely improve your idea, you would probably already have realised the flaws, but rest assured the entire idea is already implemented in a better, working fashion.
No need to thank me, I'm just the messenger.
o7 |
Rayzilla Zaraki
Tandokuno
74
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Posted - 2013.06.13 23:07:00 -
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Dammit...
I was hoping to see a proposal to mount Doomsday weapons on shuttles.
/disappointment
Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
4525
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Posted - 2013.06.14 00:08:00 -
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Gorgoth24 wrote:Safe passage for outlaws in high sec
Um, how about NO?
Actions have consequences. Suspect timers and outlaw flags DEFINITELY have consequences.
Stop being bad and you may travel freely.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Black Dranzer
249
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Posted - 2013.06.14 02:45:00 -
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Gorgoth24 wrote:I often need to go to high sec for a skill book or some small piece of riff-raff that just isn't available for a reasonable price out in lowsec. But, this means taking my outlawed bum through Jita undock, which is among the scariest places in New Eden imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-mnYLPxwtc |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
2590
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Posted - 2013.06.14 02:54:00 -
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Do it like the rest of us "outlaw" types.
Pause your main character's training, make an alt on one of your 2 other character slots, and spend 2 months getting said alt into a blockade runner/trader.
Too much of a sacrifice? Guess you should have thought of that before shooting neutrals.
Oh... but wait... can't you buy/collect security stags and raise your security status??? Problem solved (with a few hundred million ISK of course)!!!
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
340
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Posted - 2013.06.14 03:31:00 -
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You're right, OP. It's not what I thought.
It's worse. |
Luc Chastot
Gentleman's Corp
391
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Posted - 2013.06.14 04:43:00 -
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Consequences.
Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. |
Apostrof Ahashion
Viziam
Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2013.06.14 06:50:00 -
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How hard is it to make an 0 sp alt to do your skill book shopping? |
Manes Avatarr
Adventurers
76
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Posted - 2013.06.14 07:13:00 -
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Life of the outlaw is tough one. Deal with it.
If outlaws would get invulnerable shuttles - i want the same for 5.0 ppl, going through lowsec/nullsec.
ADVENTURERS Corp. | To explore & fight! | https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2906996 |
hmskrecik
TransMine Group
German Information Network Alliance
74
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Posted - 2013.06.14 08:01:00 -
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With all above being said, nobody forces you to buy books in Jita. |
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
383
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Posted - 2013.06.14 08:16:00 -
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There's this thing now where you can dual train toons on the same account, train up a blockade runner alt and ferry your s**t into lowsec like the rest of us.
MMOs come and go, but Eve remains.-á -Garresh- |
Zaknussem
Everybody Loves Donuts
36
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Posted - 2013.06.14 11:19:00 -
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Gorgoth24 wrote:...you still wouldn't be able to come into high sec in anything else? Seems far from making security status irrelevant.
There are ways for outlaws to travel in Hi-Sec without getting blown up, but those methods take :effort: .
Your proposal, among many other things, eliminates that effort, which sends all kinds of wrong messages to the playerbase. |
Gorgoth24
Sickology
10
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Posted - 2013.06.14 15:07:00 -
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I am not unaware of tags for sec, or the ability to train alts and such. They are methods I currently use for logistics, they just involve much time or isk. I just thought it was a novel idea. Given the feedback, I have retracted the post. Thanks for reading, though |
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