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Mishima	Posted - 2005.11.16 01:37:00 - [1] Tracking Disruptors are imballanced and I don't say that of a victim of them, they are very rarely used but the fact is that if perhaps a Typhoon [being the lightest battleship] would tracking disrupt an Armageddon and orbit at say 15-8km range the geddon would be almost helpless! I've tried it out on the test server with my corpmate and I almost never got a hit, even im my current optimal range! I wasn't using a Tracking Computer but would it have made a difference? Tracking Computer II boost tracking by 30% and optimal by 15% where as Tracking Disruptor II damps the turret's tracking by almost 50% and same with optimal! This really needs a second look along with other things! It's too hard to counter electronic warfare modules, the countermeasure modules SUCK! even if you decide to waste a slot or two, and your whole ships setup on putting eccm, odds are that it will fail anyways. You need 2x tracking computers to counter a tracking disruptor II and you need tons of backup arrays to counter target jamming. Agreed? Agreed. I love x-mas :D
Idara	Posted - 2005.11.16 01:44:00 - [2] It's just like a MWD vs Webifiers. They don't cancel each other out, one module always completely cripples the ship using the other module...same with Sensor Boosters vs. Dampeners... -------------------------------------------------------- Lance Corporal BSC Military
Lygos	Posted - 2005.11.16 03:19:00 - [3] It's our kryptonite. The mind reels with the staggering injustice of it all. Woe is us.. Guess we better stay farther than 15km away if we're not packing extra tracking gear? Hum. "Everything I love is combustible."
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.11.16 03:38:00 - [4] Originally by: Lygos It's our kryptonite. The mind reels with the staggering injustice of it all. Woe is us.. Guess we better stay farther than 15km away if we're not packing extra tracking gear? Hum. Or use it or one of the other forms of EW. If you get ganked because of tracking disruptors it serves you right. You shouldn't rely solely on just pure DPS to win battles. The whole point of EW is to mess up people who rely on pure damage. And I heard the noise of thunder. And I looked and behold: a pale horse. And his name, that sat on him, was Death. And Hell followed with him
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2005.11.16 04:47:00 - [5] They won't save you from drones, or missiles, ect.. Unlike a jammer, turrets WILL hit you if you are close range and webbed (which happens a lot). It takes at least two to be truly effective.. except at long ranges, but a remote sensor dampener does the same thing, except it screws missiles and drones over as well. They're not imbalanced.. ------ If Captain James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock embracing one another, in a bath tube, nude, in space, is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Lygos	Posted - 2005.11.16 06:17:00 - [6] I need mods for my posts. Like +35% chance of success in expressing tragicomic irony. Or a hud indicator, "warning, something is attempting to us an inferior mode of sarcasm on something." Targetting Sig Variance -- "Everything I love is combustible."
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2005.11.16 09:41:00 - [7] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/11/2005 09:41:32 Tracking disruptors are useless if your opponent is using missiles, or has enough ECM / dampeners on you. Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
FoRGyL	Posted - 2005.11.16 10:04:00 - [8] Totally agree on the term that countermesaures isen't what the should be, mostly backup arrays and such The kinda made it hard for themselfs when implementing the new system. REally hope u can put a backup array on a ship and acctually feel "alittle" safer!!"! ok a EW thingy but the same goes for all ,,,countermessaures is flawed or is it meant to be? -out- -out- ********************************************************* Pay or don't!
Clavius XIV	Posted - 2005.11.16 17:05:00 - [9] You can't really think of tracking computers vs distruptors like ECCM vs ECM (assuming they ever get around to making ECCM a decent counter). ECCM has no other use on the ship, if you don't go up against a jammer its just a wasted mid slot. A tracking computer still has a very powerful use on a setup where you won't be going against tracking disruptors, both increased optimal range and better hits from the tracking.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2005.11.16 21:51:00 - [10] Offensive modules ftw ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol	Posted - 2005.11.16 23:58:00 - [11] Originally by: Mishima Tracking Disruptors are imballanced and I don't say that of a victim of them, they are very rarely used but the fact is that if perhaps a Typhoon [being the lightest battleship] would tracking disrupt an Armageddon and orbit at say 15-8km range the geddon would be almost helpless! I've tried it out on the test server with my corpmate and I almost never got a hit, even im my current optimal range! I wasn't using a Tracking Computer but would it have made a difference? Tracking Computer II boost tracking by 30% and optimal by 15% where as Tracking Disruptor II damps the turret's tracking by almost 50% and same with optimal! This really needs a second look along with other things! It's too hard to counter electronic warfare modules, the countermeasure modules SUCK! even if you decide to waste a slot or two, and your whole ships setup on putting eccm, odds are that it will fail anyways. You need 2x tracking computers to counter a tracking disruptor II and you need tons of backup arrays to counter target jamming. Agreed? Agreed. not true. i used two tracking disruptors on a geddon in my caracal at 15 km and i got my ass handed to me within about 10 seconds --------------------------------------------- Oveur > CUZ IM EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEME!!!! [TheKiller8 - Uh what? - Flash Video]
Wrayeth	Posted - 2005.11.17 00:35:00 - [12] The best way to deal with tracking disruptors is to jam or sensor damp the person using them. I carry a mutlispectral jammer on my AC tempest specifically for this purpose (a lot of HACs seem to run them), with the added benefits that it makes me rather hard to tackle and will occasionally also jam another battleship I'm fighting. -Wrayeth

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