CCP need to make a deal with isoboxer so we can all get isoboxer by spending plex.

"ISboxer bring more money to CCP"
No, ISboxers can make so much ingame ISK that they dont need to use real cash to pay their accounts.

Go away, no one cares. Posting in a locked thread.


You clearly have NO idea how the PLEX system works, you are an utter moron.

Not this farking thread again!

Also, IBTL.

Its a botting program and everyone using it are ******** lameasses. imo.

Feel free to add your opinion:

no it isn't, and that makes you wrong.

"ISboxer bring more money to CCP"
No, ISboxers can make so much ingame ISK that they dont need to use real cash to pay their accounts.

"But someone spend real cash on the PLEX they buy with ingame ISK"
Yes, but usually some other player, normally is not the ISboxer, he doesnt need to.

"But it doesnt interfere with your gameplay"
Yes, it interferes with my gameplay when it uses synchronized fire, it can be much more effective than a human alpha strike and win PvP battles with the same numbers, even in Incursions they are using it to win against any fleet.
Plus it completely ruins the Immersion of the game, soon EVE Online will look like an Asian mmo where you rarely see a real player.

"But only a small % of players use ISboxer"
For now maybe, but if this is not dealt with soon, it will spread fast due to the power of this program. Just imagine the distortion of numbers in 0.0 if this is used on a large scale.

"But players have the right to play the game the way they want"
True, but they already have the option to use multiclient, they dont need some program that give them an unfair advantage against the players that dont use external programs.

"ISboxer bring more money to CCP"
No, ISboxers can make so much ingame ISK that they dont need to use real cash to pay their accounts.

You did not give your opinion, you are not contributing for this discussion.

Actually this is a "automation" software.

It is not a bot per se but it does "automate" the sequence of clicks required to run multiple accounts.

The discussion is similar to argument that Fully automatic rifle is a gun but a semiautomatic rifle is hunting accessory.

It is not a bot that is correct but sure as hell is in the same category ...

Legal or not that is up to CCP to decide but armies of these mining or even PVP sure will mess up the real game play.
In my opinion this should be considered cheating but that is me.

legality issues aside, if the fact that it "automates" a sequence of clicks makes people a "lameass" then every one who owns a half decent keyboard is also a "lameass".

if ISboxer actually gave you some kind of unfair advantage i'd be able to understand what people were getting so upset about, but it doesn't so... i honestly don't understand why their panties are all in a bunch.

It can perform coordinated 5-6 characters synchronized attacks with the simplicity and effort of flying s single ship.
Same with mining or any other in game activity. Basically you can in theory run a whole wing of ships as easy as one only limitation is the hardware you are willing to invest. 2 3 10 20 even 50 accounts are not a problem to coordinate

As I have said I don't care that much but similar things are borderline to semi - botting.
And to be honest IF you think that 90 % of the people that use this are not gold sellers than you are na+»ve.

A small list of the arguments for and against ISboxer:

I'd rather see a small list of your arguments on whether your thoughts are special enough to justify a new thread on this, rather than being posted in the 3 or 4 currently active ones on the same subject.

Great post. I would like to add some info into this discussion.
Since my last post was closed and with no much information from ccp, I just read the policy rules and it says :

1- You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played.

> Since multiboxing is an third party software that changes the way the game is played, its against this rule.

2- You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.

> Well, since it facilitate acquisition of anything etc, its against this rule.

3- You may not use the Software, or any information accessible through the System, to bypass the System login architecture or create or provide any other means through which the System may be accessed and/or the Game may be played by others, as, for example, through server emulators.

> I didnt use this software, but I think it bypass the login, but its clear that it provide diferent way of playing, so its agains this rule.

Since multiboxing is an third party software that changes the way the game is played, its against this rule.

Well, since it facilitate acquisition of anything etc, its against this rule.

I didnt use this software

Feel free to give your opinion about ISboxer

Is this a troll? Or are you really this stupid?

A small list of the arguments for and against ISboxer:


"ISboxer bring more money to CCP"
No, ISboxers can make so much ingame ISK that they dont need to use real cash to pay their accounts.

"But someone spend real cash on the PLEX they buy with ingame ISK"
Yes, but usually some other player, normally is not the ISboxer, he doesnt need to.

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I think peaple like you that use alts to reply and troll in forum topics just to protect your cheating way to play also should get banned.

Go away, no one cares. Posting in a locked thread.


You clearly have NO idea how the PLEX system works, you are an utter moron.

Edit: I was going to reply to all your other points, but they're all absolute rubbish, do you realise how many PLEX it costs to set up an ISBoxer army? And it's almost unheard of to use ISBoxer in PVP...

"ISboxer bring more money to CCP"
No, ISboxers can make so much ingame ISK that they dont need to use real cash to pay their accounts.

Great post.

blah bah

A small list of the arguments for and against ISboxer:


1. "ISboxer bring more money to CCP"
No, ISboxers can make so much ingame ISK that they dont need to use real cash to pay their accounts.

2. "But someone spend real cash on the PLEX they buy with ingame ISK"
Yes, but usually some other player, normally is not the ISboxer, he doesnt need to.

3. "But it doesnt interfere with your gameplay"
Yes, it interferes with my gameplay when it uses synchronized fire, it can be much more effective than a human alpha strike and win PvP battles with the same numbers, even in Incursions they are using it to win against any fleet.
Plus it completely ruins the Immersion of the game, soon EVE Online will look like an Asian mmo where you rarely see a real player.

4. "But only a small % of players use ISboxer"
For now maybe, but if this is not dealt with soon, it will spread fast due to the power of this program. Just imagine the distortion of numbers in 0.0 if this is used on a large scale.

5. "But players have the right to play the game the way they want"
True, but they already have the option to use multiclient, they dont need some program that give them an unfair advantage against the players that dont use external programs.


But in my opinion what is more insidious is that it is against the spirit of Group Play.

We dont want to go back to Single Player Games pre-Internet where you played alone on your PC and used cheat hacks to win the harder games.



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