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Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 173	Posted - 2013.06.16 18:02:00 - [1] - Quote idea, short range, lethal pouncers. special ability-50% bonus to web strength racial bonus: minmatar-10% web range per level caldari-10% bonus to target painters per level. Recluse- frigate-griffin highs-4 rocket launchers 2 mids' 4 lows Black Widow- cruiser-caracal 5 high-5 ham launchers 4 mids 6 low Funnel-Web- bs-scorpion hull 6 high-6 torp launchers 5 mids 8 low these ships are slower than most their size but they have outstanding agility. they use webs to close range. fast align time, fast acceleration, just slow (insert creepy crawly spider here). they are designed strictly for missiles. no turret mounting points. armor tanks.
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 174	Posted - 2013.06.16 19:18:00 - [2] - Quote no more launchers. they are meant to inflict a slow and painful death. nasty tank, slower dps, designed to catch and hold prey. the bigger the spider (more trained the pilot), the larger the web. web bonuses stay, its in the ship design (meant to be slow). fast align, agile but slow over all. can be reduced tho. say 25% flat bonus.
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 174	Posted - 2013.06.16 19:34:00 - [3] - Quote Drake Doe wrote: Don't most spiders liquify their prey in a relatively fast manner? Also, I'd perfer something along the lines of Weaver for the name of the cruiser, since I can't think of any ship with a 2 word name. And since it's supposed to be tough where's the armor resist bonus. they wrap their prey in a cocoon and inject venom to liquify, yes, but it does take a while. its not instantaneous. hence the web bonuses and lesser dps. these arent meant for all out gank, just to hold their prey still so they can have their way with em.
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 174	Posted - 2013.06.16 19:50:00 - [4] - Quote changed the bonuses to flat 37.5% web range, 10% web str per lev. and now it has a missile explosion velocity bonus. thats more caldari/minie imo
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 174	Posted - 2013.06.16 19:59:00 - [5] - Quote good point, lemme come up with some spiders who have nice, intricate webs... more changes coming.. =)
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 174	Posted - 2013.06.16 20:22:00 - [6] - Quote Drake Doe wrote: Ok good, I just came up with Weaver because, golden orb weaver, best weaver. did some quick research and those make the nastiest web. Weaver it is.
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 174	Posted - 2013.06.16 22:23:00 - [7] - Quote Bakuhz wrote: Mole Guy wrote: idea, short range, lethal pouncers. special ability-37.5% bonus to web range racial bonus: minmatar-10% web strength per level (like paladins) caldari-10% bonus missile explosion velocity (like bombers) Recluse- frigate-griffin 4 highs-4 rocket launchers 5 mids' 2 lows Funnel-Web- cruiser-caracal 5 high-5 ham launchers 7 mids 3 low Weaver- bs-scorpion hull (or maybe a new raven hull..that thing is ugly. you guys did a KILLER job on the scorp. redo the raven) 6 high-6 torp launchers 8 mids 5 low faster lock time than ships their size (spider senses) 10% reduced sig radius of their counter parts (have u ever tried to kill them..they are crazy) 10% slower (thats why they need longer range webs) prolly 20% more agile. they accelerate quickly to close to web range. these ships are slower than most their size but they have outstanding agility. they use webs to close range. fast align time, fast acceleration, just slow (insert creepy crawly spider here). they are designed strictly for missiles. no turret mounting points. shield tanks. ************************************ edit: changed cruiser name. it conflicted with blops changed frig slot layout. changed web bonus a little. changed painter to explosion velocity to help project damage. changed to shield tank. high slots are ok but atleast nerf one high to only be facilitating utility like most pirate ships have. the web bonus would be nice. one ship has to many mid's and that is the cruiser 7 mid slots is way to powerfull webbing slows down so damage application goes up by quite some points. 6 mid slots should be the limit this brings balance between tanking or mid slot utilities. that sacrifice some tank. overal i like the idea as i am a great fan of electronic warfare combination i like to see a few alterations before it looks acceptable. you mean like frig 5 high, 4 launchers 5 mids 1 low cruiser 6 high, 5 launchers 6 mid 3 low bs 7 high, 6 launchers 8 mids 4 low ?
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 174	Posted - 2013.06.17 00:20:00 - [8] - Quote not enough launchers. i dont like it. these are designed to hit targets as big or bigger than they are. they are slow and stop everything they pounce. they will prolly need a painter and a web as standard practice. that leaves -2 mids for tank. and their bonuses only apply to close rage. they loose 2/3 the ship bonus to anything past web range, so cruise will be the only weapons they have. get in close range and suck up torps and webs. just like a spiders web.
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 174	Posted - 2013.06.17 00:21:00 - [9] - Quote Alvatore DiMarco wrote: I hate spiders. I honestly and truly ***** hate spiders. ** every last spider everywhere ever for all eternity. They can die and go to spider hell forever. Likewise, spiders hate the heel of my boot. They don't have enough agility to escape it, even when they're halfway up a wall. What is the best way to kill one of these new ships quickly? best way would be to kite em. stay out of web range and keep yer speed up. torps would almost be useless.
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 175	Posted - 2013.06.17 07:50:00 - [10] - Quote woke up at midnight dreaming of spiders in the bed. i might scrap this whole thing. lol actually, i woke up thinking about a wolf spider that jumped me one night. we were in texas at my father in laws house and i was almost asleep when i felt these very light fingers touching me on my forehead. slowly walking towards my face. not knowing what it was, i ran my hand down from on top of my head towards my face to knock what ever it was off and it was the largest wolf spider i have ever seen in person. it balled up and rolled under my hand. once my hand released, it popped up on all 8's and hauled ass down my chest and disappeared in the darkness. ok, lemme sec the scene. i am close to the wall, my wife is on the outside. i am arachnaphobic and I have a huge wolf spider on my face. i almost pushed her to the floor trying to get up. i woke up remembering this night (in vivid details and freaking out again like i did that night) and thought about this ship. it was all wrong. its not slow and tanky. they are fast as hell. spiders pounce. they are squishy once you get them squarely under your boot, but to that takes an act of god (amarrian god). these ships should reflect that, so i changed em to faster than all bs and just a tad more tanky than a normal bs. way less than a pirate bs. agile, fast, tough to hit, holds you in place and does nasty things to you. like we should do to fozzie for that marauder tease on friday.
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 251	Posted - 2013.06.20 02:50:00 - [11] - Quote new hulls would be nice. i just dont see the bonuses. its a pounce ship...reach out and snare someone. close range, why do u have it setup sniper fit?
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Unclaimed. 252	Posted - 2013.06.20 14:36:00 - [12] - Quote agreed. we need another shield ship. this one in a new direction. not a tanky, damage monger, but a fast as hell, webbing freak. good tank, good sensors, fast lock and quick. minmatar=shields and armor caldari=shield minmatar=guns and missiles caldari= guns and missiles minmatar= speed and dps caldari=tank and dps minmatar= painters and webs caldari=painters (golem) and ewar any concepts/ideas we're missing? wonder could we incorperate the microjump drive into this so it could "pounce" like 50% reduction in MJD cycle duration web bonus and missile bonus or something warp to a gate or station at 100 and see if anything is there. if so, target, hit mjd and pounce on it. web, scram a
Mole Guy Xoth Inc Pandorum Invictus 316	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:24:00 - [13] - Quote you mean this?

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