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Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 65	Posted - 2013.06.17 01:27:00 - [1] - Quote N3 has joined Test and NCdot in the war for fountain versus the Goons. N3 SOTC can be listened to here (16 mins) http://www.twitch.tv/eneswar/c/2429252
Kainos Kerensky Shadows Of The Requiem 477	Posted - 2013.06.17 02:01:00 - [2] - Quote Congrats on more people in the gang bang. Hope you all have fun :) As a side note, Nulli needs a new public speaker. I finally had to stop listening after hearing "uh" and just random pauses of silence and lack of thought. Mind numbing, but point made. Goons shall die. c/d? Kainos Kerensky SOTR CEO "Prepare for teh Vandersex!" www.sotr-corp.com
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3699	Posted - 2013.06.17 05:01:00 - [3] - Quote Kainos Kerensky wrote: Congrats on more people in the gang bang. Hope you all have fun :) As a side note, Nulli needs a new public speaker. I finally had to stop listening after hearing "uh" and just random pauses of silence and lack of thought. Mind numbing, but point made. Goons shall die. c/d? There are no goons. The goons 0.0 dream is over. I am a nullsec zealot.
Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 66	Posted - 2013.06.17 05:12:00 - [4] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: The goons 0.0 dream is over. SoonGäó Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3699	Posted - 2013.06.17 05:18:00 - [5] - Quote Wait, wasn't N3 down here already? Or up here, I guess, where do they live? I am a nullsec zealot.
Callduron 394	Posted - 2013.06.17 05:52:00 - [6] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Wait, wasn't N3 down here already? Or up here, I guess, where do they live? Deklein, they're just unloading the removal lorry.
Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 72	Posted - 2013.06.17 06:06:00 - [7] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Wait, wasn't N3 down here already? Or up here, I guess, where do they live? Just NCdot. This deployment is Nexus, Scrap, Nulli, and a hoard of others. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.
knobber Jobbler Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 241	Posted - 2013.06.17 06:19:00 - [8] - Quote Target rich environment gets richer.
Roderick Grey Broski North Black Legion. 370	Posted - 2013.06.17 06:40:00 - [9] - Quote Makalu, Elo Knight, NC. It's funny how these people your propaganda department tried to make you all hate turned out to actually be your salvation. GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon.
Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 72	Posted - 2013.06.17 06:46:00 - [10] - Quote Roderick Grey wrote: It's funny how these people your propaganda department tried to make you all hate turned out to actually be your salvation. We hate whoever we're fighting, we love whoever is on our side. That stuff changes almost daily, and so does how we feel about it. You've frankly been a lot more hostile to Test in COAD than we've been to you. As far as our salvation, none of this would be happening if Test didn't take a huge chance and leave the HBC and count on the word and honor of our current friends. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.

Roderick Grey Broski North Black Legion. 370	Posted - 2013.06.17 06:58:00 - [11] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: Roderick Grey wrote: It's funny how these people your propaganda department tried to make you all hate turned out to actually be your salvation. We hate whoever we're fighting, we love whoever is on our side. That stuff changes almost daily, and so does how we feel about it. You've frankly been a lot more hostile to Test in COAD than we've been to you. As far as our salvation, none of this would be happening if Test didn't take a huge chance and leave the HBC and count on the word and honor of our current friends. I'm obviously going to be more hostile to a group of fickle ignorant sperglords, not even Goon smug is as bad as some of the stuff your propaganda department comes up with, or 90% of your alliance's forum posts. Working so hard to hate people that have simply deployed for a bit of fun is absurd and isn't a sustainable or sane mindset. So you're saying that N3, PL and the BBC wouldn't be fighting goons if you weren't? GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon.
Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 72	Posted - 2013.06.17 07:07:00 - [12] - Quote Roderick Grey wrote: I'm obviously going to be more hostile to a group of fickle ignorant sperglords, not even Goon smug is as bad as some of the stuff your propaganda department comes up with We don't really have a department afaict, it's a bunch of guys doing whatever they want. Judging a 12,000 man alliance by what 3 or 8 guys do seems a little overblown to me. That said, I wasn't around when we were fighting you. I've got nothing but respect for BL and friends so far. Christ, I even like Pizza despite them killing me 20x. Roderick Grey wrote: or 90% of your alliance's forum posts. I don't think anyone in the entirety of Test has ever claimed to be a good poster. Roderick Grey wrote: Working so hard to hate people that have simply deployed for a bit of fun is absurd and isn't a sustainable or sane mindset. We don't have CTAs. The way we get guys to login, to care, to fund newbros, to lead roams and skirmish fleets, and to do it over and over again, is to build up a narrative that has emotional appeal. Roderick Grey wrote: So you're saying that N3, PL and the BBC wouldn't be fighting goons if you weren't? Not at all. I am saying that we're going to continue to crush Goons because Test helped create a condition where the Goons overextended themselves and are paying for it north and south daily. You can lose the tough guy, angry at Test routine, because I don't hate or dislike you. I've got a crap ton of respect, and sent Elo a mail tonight as soon as Goons left Q-CAB2. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3699	Posted - 2013.06.17 08:22:00 - [13] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: We don't have CTAs. The way we get guys to login, to care, to fund newbros, to lead roams and skirmish fleets, and to do it over and over again, is to build up a narrative that has emotional appeal. We don't. We have CTAs. The way we get guys to login, undock, and shoot structures is to promise them more DABIGREDBOAT. I am a nullsec zealot.
Roderick Grey Broski North Black Legion. 370	Posted - 2013.06.17 08:44:00 - [14] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: We don't really have a department afaict, it's a bunch of guys doing whatever they want. Judging a 12,000 man alliance by what 3 or 8 guys do seems a little overblown to me. That said, I wasn't around when we were fighting you. I've got nothing but respect for BL and friends so far. Christ, I even like Pizza despite them killing me 20x. Okay that's great that you personally like us, but my criticisms aren't of you personally and we both know that. Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: I don't think anyone in the entirety of Test has ever claimed to be a good poster. And yet here they are. Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: We don't have CTAs. The way we get guys to login, to care, to fund newbros, to lead roams and skirmish fleets, and to do it over and over again, is to build up a narrative that has emotional appeal. So instead of telling people that they should attend a fleet test turns them into a bunch of deluded angry sperglords... Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: Not at all. I am saying that we're going to continue to crush Goons because Test helped create a condition where the Goons overextended themselves and are paying for it north and south daily. The difference being if N3 PL BBC weren't helping you fountain would be Goons or N3's. I'm not saying TEST is useless I'm just pointing out the irony that these alliances and people TEST demonizes are the ones keeping your assets intact. Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: You can lose the tough guy, angry at Test routine, because I don't hate or dislike you. I've got a crap ton of respect, and sent Elo a mail tonight as soon as Goons left Q-CAB2. Expressing an opinion isn't "a tough guy act", and my "angry at TEST routine" isn't going to change based on what you as an individual do. GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon.
Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.06.17 09:05:00 - [15] - Quote Roderick Grey wrote: Okay that's great that you personally like us, but my criticisms aren't of you personally and we both know that. Well I hope you don't expect me to defend all of Test past and present, or to pretend to speak for all of Test except in the most generalized, abstracted manner possible. Roderick Grey wrote: The difference being if N3 PL BBC weren't helping you fountain would be Goons or N3's. I don't think we would have left the HBC if we thought that would be a possibility. Roderick Grey wrote: And yet here they are. Callduron and I? We're simply on a fishing expedition mate. Roderick Grey wrote: So instead of telling people that they should attend a fleet test turns them into a bunch of deluded angry sperglords... You need to come on our fleet comms. They are rarely angry. Stupid, idiotic, annoying, absolutely. But not angry. Roderick Grey wrote: I'm not saying TEST is useless I'm just pointing out the irony that these alliances and people TEST demonizes are the ones keeping your assets intact. I'd suggest to you that there is a lot more going on here politically than you might think. http://leverage.wikia.com/wiki/The_Long_Con Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.
Berke Negri GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 83	Posted - 2013.06.17 09:24:00 - [16] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: You can lose the tough guy, angry at Test routine, because I don't hate or dislike you. I've got a crap ton of respect, and sent Elo a mail tonight as soon as Goons left Q-CAB2. what the hell is this supposed to be i am sure Elo Knight breathlessly read the email informing him that Internet Captain Toshiro Ozuwara is proud of him
Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.06.17 09:28:00 - [17] - Quote Berke Negri wrote: i am sure Elo Knight breathlessly read the email informing him that Internet Captain Toshiro Ozuwara is proud of him If he was breathless, it might be because he's got 140 of your caps trapped in a station, lulz. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.
Roderick Grey Broski North Black Legion. 370	Posted - 2013.06.17 09:29:00 - [18] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: Well I hope you don't expect me to defend all of Test past and present, or to pretend to speak for all of Test except in the most generalized, abstracted manner possible. I pointed out that it was ironic that the alliances and people your alliance used to hate are now the ones protecting you, you chose to defend your alliance. Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: I don't think we would have left the HBC if we thought that would be a possibility. Are you telling me TEST and Tribe could defend Fountain alone from the CFC? Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: I'd suggest to you that there is a lot more going on here politically than you might think. http://leverage.wikia.com/wiki/The_Long_Con Please tell me all about in in-depth politics of Eve from the perspective of a TEST grunt. GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon.
Shepard Wong Ogeko GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 482	Posted - 2013.06.17 09:37:00 - [19] - Quote Roderick Grey wrote: Makalu, Elo Knight, NC. It's funny how these people your propaganda department tried to make you all hate turned out to actually be your salvation. Give it a few months. After helping them with their sov war, they'll find a way to make a narrative about how you guys were holding them back, how arrogant you were, and how Test needs to go on deployment to ~~put you in your place~~ alleviate boredom.
Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.06.17 09:43:00 - [20] - Quote Roderick Grey wrote: Are you telling me TEST and Tribe could defend Fountain alone from the CFC? Was the HBC Tribe and Test only? Roderick Grey wrote: Please tell me all about in in-depth politics of Eve from the perspective of a TEST grunt. Have we really devolved the conversation to ad hominem? Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.

Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.06.17 09:46:00 - [21] - Quote Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: Give it a few months. After helping them with their sov war The CFC has invaded Fountain. Black Legion has been able to take advantage of a CFC deployment away from the North, and good for them. Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: they'll find a way to make a narrative about how you guys were holding them back, how arrogant you were, and how Test needs to go on deployment to ~~put you in your place~~ alleviate boredom. They, they, they, they, they. The idea that anyone coordinates our memes, narratives or propaganda is very wrongheaded. We're not the CFC. 15 minutes on our forums would probably dispel a lot of these misconceptions. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.
Shepard Wong Ogeko GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 482	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:07:00 - [22] - Quote Just saying, been there, done that, have some ships locked up in F2OY-X to prove it. Also, BL doesn't need Test's help to kill goons. They were doing it before you guys thought it was cool. Then again, maybe we should rename the cyno beacon in VFK "Test" since you guys love taking credit for others' work.
Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:13:00 - [23] - Quote Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: Also, BL doesn't need Test's help to kill goons. They were doing it before you guys thought it was cool. Without a doubt, BL is awesome. Personally, I always thought it was cool to kill goons. Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: JThen again, maybe we should rename the cyno beacon in VFK "Test" since you guys love taking credit for others' work. I don't think anyone in Test is taking credit for BL's successes. Certainly I am not, which is why I congratulated Elo on HIS success. Less talk, more PvP pls. http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1191830 Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.
Berke Negri GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 83	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:20:00 - [24] - Quote please tell us more about how you always liked killing goons, you publord bandwagoner
Shepard Wong Ogeko GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 482	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:31:00 - [25] - Quote Enjoy your new allies their N3, BL and who ever else. They'll at least lick your boots clean before they decide you need a knife in the back.
Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:41:00 - [26] - Quote Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: Enjoy your new allies their N3, BL and who ever else. They'll at least lick your boots clean before they decide you need a knife in the back. I would be disappointed if they did any less. The reason we work together is that we all have a mutual interest. The destruction of the CFC. When that's done, people will need something new to shoot. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.
Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:45:00 - [27] - Quote Berke Negri wrote: please tell us more about how you always liked killing goons, you publord bandwagoner You seem very upset my friend. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.
mama guru Thundercats The Initiative. 130	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:46:00 - [28] - Quote So how many R64's did you have to pay Shadoo to get him to bail you out this time? ______ EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.
Toshiro Ozuwara Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore 78	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:54:00 - [29] - Quote mama guru wrote: So how many R64's did you have to pay Shadoo to get him to bail you out this time? I suspect that a lot of people just like shooting Goonswarm. Asakai is proof I think that more people will show up to shoot Goons than save Goons. And there are a lot of people shooting Goons right now who have nothing to do with BL, PL, NC, N3 or Test. Just seizing the opportunity afforded by huge losses, flagging morale and forces spread too thin to cover all bases. On the other hand, who can turn down killmails like this? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18196124 PL aren't pacifists you know. Will Fountain be Goonswarm's Waterloo?Read all about it in COAD.
Roderick Grey Broski North Black Legion. 370	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:58:00 - [30] - Quote Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: Was the HBC Tribe and Test only? How on earth did your leadership not see that as a possibility, guess what, it was and they did. Also if you want to see how well the CFC does against other coalitions look at Tribute/Vale, Dotbros was a far more experienced coalition than the HBC was and they only way they managed to put the invasion to a semi-halt was fighting in the AU tz, which the HBC didn't even have. Roderick Grey wrote: Please tell me all about in in-depth politics of Eve from the perspective of a TEST grunt. Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: Have we really devolved the conversation to ad hominem? You're trying to lecture me on Nullsec politics, I'm questioning your lack of experience, don't try to pin me with accusations of logical fallacies, refute me. GÇ£We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.GÇ¥- Special needs division of Fcon.



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