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Kimi
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:15:00 -
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Moo, Molly, Tank CEO, M3G4, and others have been exploiting the -10 security bug for DAYS now. They KNOW it is an exploit, yet nothing has been done about it.
All day long Tank CEO has been blowing up ships in Yulai, Moo and M3G4 in other (mainly newbie) systems.
It is time to BAN them and stop messing around.
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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:23:00 -
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Agreed. It's not like they don't know what they're doing, and that is exploiting flawed game mechanics which according to CCP should equal BAN!
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:47:00 -
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I agree. I can record some proof of Tank CEO camping a highway gate with no trouble at all. Ban I say.  |
Glowing Star
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:49:00 -
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i expect these players are planning on quiting the game anyway and so they dont care they might get banned, ? |
Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:54:00 -
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I have a better idea. Instead of banning the exploiters why don't we fix the exploit?
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:55:00 -
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I have a better idea. Instead of banning the exploiters why don't we fix the exploit?
Why don't we both fix the exploit AND ban the people who knew about it and still used it?
Exploiting is a bad, bad thing in multiplayer games.
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Striker IV
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Posted - 2003.08.10 00:35:00 -
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fix it and ban them all
best of both worlds
get on the ball CCP!!!!
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Khyan
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Posted - 2003.08.10 01:41:00 -
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i agree, this is no fun anymore, it's pure to annoy people...
i say ban those players, deal with it once and for all.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.08.10 02:09:00 -
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I agree. Ban them. While they haven't caused me any grief personally, they are making the game experience horrible for new players.
They also know they are doing this despite CCP's policy on the matter.
-E
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Ehxo
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Posted - 2003.08.10 05:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ehxo on 10/08/2003 05:59:06
Common, Ban them because they are killing people in systems where they "shouldn't" be able to do so?
It's up to CCP to do something about it, not the players to refrain themselves to kill in high sec systems just because they know the police won't get them...
Just fix the damn exploit and that will be the end of it. No need to make ROLEPLAYING players pay for it when all they do is play their part of the story by being the bad guys.
They haven't been getting the -10 status on purpose especially to use that bug, and they can't get rid of that -10 status either even if they wanted to. Whoever is gonna say "just kill NPC pirates and it'll go back up" is talking our of their ass because they don't know that when you're low sec status, you do not gain (or almost nothing, like .0002 points) any sec status increase for killing npc pirates...
So just be freakin smart about it and if you see them, don't stay there.
And to CCP, just fix their sec status or fix the damn bug and that's it!
You people make me laugh... when PC pirates cause trouble, it's all arms high screaming to the wolf... but when it's "good" corps using market exploits to get money or finding NPC belt pirates that are bugged... and such... nobody says a word and keep it shut hoping CCP will never find out. That's called being hypocrite.
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Falzone
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Posted - 2003.08.10 08:05:00 -
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i saw we get some devs who aren't smoking ***** all day and too busy to fix the problems we pay them to fix
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2003.08.10 08:09:00 -
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Some responsibility resides on the devs in regards to exploits. Banning customers is an acknowledgement that it is all the customers fault and not the actual game provider, which is simply wrong.
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.08.10 08:21:00 -
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m, I think banning them would be a wise 'business move' for CCP. Why in God's name would you want to keep people in your game who cause other's to quit? And all but come out and say, "yes, we grief others because CCP won't fix bugs".
Hello . . . McFly.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.08.10 10:28:00 -
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I have to say that of the massively multiplayer games I have played, EVE seems like the most you can get away with. With exploits like combat grid, -10 sec status killing in empire space, and even the insurance exploit earlier on, we never saw anyone getting banned.
Is it part of CCP's policy not to ban exploiters?
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illuminati
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Posted - 2003.08.10 10:45:00 -
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I think 4-8 weeks ago CCP didnt know what impact banning exploiters would have on playerbase.
They obviously didnt understand that banning 10-20 of the biggest cheating PKs early on would have saved them a couple of thousand new players from quitting.
All other games generally provide a safe noob place so you can learn the game and build up money/skills before coming out thinking it wont be the end of the world if they get destroyed once or twice.
A player getting killed while too fresh will quit game, the simple proof of that fact is nearly all games you heard about have this noob zone or you wouldnt have heard about them.
The biggest whiners imo are the pimps who spend their whole day praying on the weak using exploits.
If they were tough, they would fight the fighters, not the afk miners.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:17:00 -
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Well, then they should also ban the entire TTI corp for exploiting with that Nieblung mining laser.
Who knows how much ore they extracted with that laser mounted on an indy with 10000+ cargohold...
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:22:00 -
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Ban is pointless, the bug should be fixed.
And IF YOU KNOW that they have been doing this in Yulai for days, CHECK THE BLOODY MAP & LOCAL!
If doing something unrealistic beacuse of game mechanics is exploit, isn't it exploit that you can AFK around, due to "game mechanics"? Other side of the coin.
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FatherTed
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:28:00 -
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Luc whilst i would tend to agree with check the map and the local - I would also suggest that the local Bug be fixed as this is not 100% when informing you of who's in the local - i had 63 people local with me in a 0.0 38 jumps away from civilisation - getting paranoid i relogged and ta-da - just me - i could also see several part conversation going on
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.08.10 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: Luc Boye on 10/08/2003 11:41:16
Yeah that needs to be fixed as well, relogging helps... for a while.
The good thing is that local bug shows more people then there are in sys, INCLUDING the threats. It would really suck if it showed 2 ppl when 5 pirates are in sys :P
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2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2003.08.10 13:57:00 -
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ban is far from pointless, people should get banned emediatly when using exploits/cheats they are using an game fault to thier advantage and gaining money/stuff etc in ways others dont. And by banning them they stop more and more people to do this and also sets "examples" to others that exploiting DO have consequenses...
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Kimi
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Posted - 2003.08.10 14:00:00 -
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The EULA specifically states that useing an exploit to gain advantage is a no-no. The -10 pirates are doing exactly that, and they KNOW it is an exploit.
Banning a few people would send a clear message that using exploits will not be tolerated.
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2003.08.10 14:03:00 -
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Get a bit bad imho when you check the map and see some 19 ships been blown up in what is supposed to be secure space...
I guess some people feel good by being all mighty and bad in a online game "oh look at me, and what I can do"... Maybe they make up for a sad and empty life... or just being total bungholes.
The survival of online games such as these is based on the players and the amount of players, the more players a better game world to play in, less players, less fun, also less cash for the creators of the game. If you got to pick on someone, go pick at others than noobs in secure space because the noobs today is the future.......
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.08.10 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Molly on 10/08/2003 14:22:01
"Moo, Molly, Tank CEO, M3G4, and others have been exploiting the -10 security bug for DAYS now. They KNOW it is an exploit, yet nothing has been done about it."
No, I'm afraid you can't say that to them.
Btw, I destroyed 3 or 4 Indies there, one or two per day a week ago. So I haven't been doing that for days either.
Furthermore I have a nice quote for you from a GM message to me: "Some 0.0 systems are part of empire controlled regions although the police doesnŠt go in there. Part of being a pirate is finding out where it is safe to kill and where it isnŠt. I wish you good luck with killing people in 1.0 but i am sure the police will have no problem blwoing you up if you step out of line in there. Thank you."
Thanks.
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Molly
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Posted - 2003.08.10 14:23:00 -
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Kimi, if you are so EULA horny, stop accusing people of using exploits, stop even talking about them.
You are harming people with it and violating the forum rules.
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.08.10 14:54:00 -
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Kimi, if you are so EULA horny, stop accusing people of using exploits, stop even talking about them.
You are harming people with it and violating the forum rules.
By using the exploit you are harming people and violating the EULA (aka. game rules). 
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2003.08.10 15:33:00 -
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This isn't the place to discuss this issue.
If you believe someone is exploiting something, please report it via the correct channels.
The forums are not for trial by mob rule.
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