So I joined EVE 2 days ago now and just now upgraded to a full account, Awesome experience but the only thing that really annoyes me is getting shot at by other players, I know its part of the experience but which sector do I stay out of to avoid this, Low or high sec ?

Any info is appreciated :)

So I joined EVE 2 days ago now and just now upgraded to a full account, Awesome experience but the only thing that really annoyes me is getting shot at by other players, I know its part of the experience but which sector do I stay out of to avoid this, Low or high sec ?

Any info is appreciated :)

So I joined EVE 2 days ago now and just now upgraded to a full account, Awesome experience but the only thing that really annoyes me is getting shot at by other players, I know its part of the experience but which sector do I stay out of to avoid this, Low or high sec ?

Any info is appreciated :)

You'll be safer in highsec, but by no means immune. It's safer than everywhere else, but it's not safe.

Never realised EVE players were so bitter and nasty, Explains some of the people I know outside of the Game then ^_^

Awesome experience but the only thing that really annoyes me is getting shot at by other players, I know its part of the experience but which sector do I stay out of to avoid this

Yeap, you're definitely new here. Welcome to the machine. In a few years, you too will have grown to hate everything.

Surely it cant be fun getting the best ship, Grinding your way to get it only to lose it soon after, Does not seem like a good gameplay mechanic.

Forget about the best ships for now, focus your training into something cheap.

I'll give the Game until my sub runs out, If it annoyes me too much then I'll just switch to a Game thats not as stress ridden for something thats actually fun.

Oh gods you went and said it didnt you

Surely it cant be fun getting the best ship, Grinding your way to get it only to lose it soon after, Does not seem like a good/fun gameplay mechanic.

I'll give the Game until my sub runs out, If it annoyes me too much then I'll just switch to a Game thats not as stress ridden for something thats actually fun.

Two days...and this? Man, if you make it past that sub period, you will end up being a bitter vet so vile that kittens will die from being within a 30 meter radius of you.

Lol, I've been watching a lot of my friends play this for a few years and while it does seem fun the idea that you can lose everything in a few seconds isn't one that appeals to many people.

Lol, I've been watching a lot of my friends play this for a few years and while it does seem fun the idea that you can lose everything in a few seconds isn't one that appeals to many people.

CCP has always been fans of oldschool, hardcore pen-and-paper rpgs (There's a reason they bought White Wolf). Think of EVE like an old-fashioned dungeon crawler, where death carries a consequence. Ever play gauntlet, DND, rogue, etc? The point isn't to "I HAVE THE BEST SHIP AND I AM THE BEST", rather, it's to balance resources and survival while completing objectives and competing against other players.

WoW, for example, lets you live continuously. You never lose your loot, so they have constant power creep (you need bigger and better stuff constantly or the game gets boring once you have THE BEST STUFF).

In eve, it's easy-come-easy-go. Sure, you can eventually get whatever ship you want, but you won't be able to keep it. It/you WILL die, and it'll be time to roll out something new and try again. Respawn and try something different. You keep your skills, so you can just buy another -Whatever- and hop into it.

The ultimate balancing factor is risk vs. reward (whereas WOW/GW is just time-reward). You may not always want to fly the biggest/bestest ship because it'll be harder to replace.

If you think losing the best ships will make you ragequit, then just d

The "rule" about not flying what you cannot afford to lose is pure bullshit and should be reworded; if you own something that you cannot afford to lose, and thus do not fly it, what's the point in owning it at all? Just sell the damn thing and buy something cheaper.

No, it should be not buying expensive crap that you cannot afford to lose in the first place. Spent all your money on a Raven for level 4's even though you have **** skills, are mixing tanks, and everything is meta 1, then have it die in 30 seconds? Shouldn't have bought it with which to begin.

Never realised EVE players were so bitter and nasty, Explains some of the people I know outside of the Game then ^_^

=Intel Core i7 4770K @ 4.60 GHZ=Asus Sabertooth Z87=EVGA GTX 780 SC=
=Corsair Dominator GT 2133 MHZ 16GB=Corsair Neutron GTX 240 GB=
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Also in Eve no one is impressed by you posting your pc stats in your signature

Is that because with all setting at minimum and all brackets off, Eve could run on a potato?

semi new to eve and wanting to die.. tried low sec, noone wants to play, any recommendations?

I'll give the Game until my sub runs out, If it annoyes me too much then I'll just switch to a Game thats not as stress ridden for something thats actually fun.

semi new to eve and wanting to die.. tried low sec, noone wants to play, any recommendations?

Is that because with all setting at minimum and all brackets off, Eve could run on a potato?

I'll give the Game until my sub runs out, If it annoyes me too much then I'll just switch to a Game thats not as stress ridden for something thats actually fun.

Join a corp?

find me one that is okay without comms

There are a few, though I cant recommend them as that may damage my alts ability to... carebear innocently. Yeah, that'll do.



Why is that important tho?

...the idea that you can lose everything in a few seconds isn't one that appeals to many people.

Lol, I've been watching a lot of my friends play this for a few years and while it does seem fun the idea that you can lose everything in a few seconds isn't one that appeals to many people.

Probably a fat chick hiding behind a male avatar who doesn't want creeper nerds all over her. Just a guess.

So I joined EVE 2 days ago now and just now upgraded to a full account, Awesome experience but the only thing that really annoyes me is getting shot at by other players, I know its part of the experience but which sector do I stay out of to avoid this, Low or high sec ?

Any info is appreciated :)

Best tip: go into low and die. A lot. So much and so often that it no longer annoys you. Do it early, when dying doesn't cost you anything.


You will be enlightened and your stay will be much more pleasant.

To avoid being a valid target for pvp in high, do not loot from yellow wrecks or cargo containers. As long as your Crimewatch safety is green, the game itself will prevent you from doing so, as it is a newbie protection feature.

As to be expected, setting your safety dot to red so you can attack people in high sec will make you valid to pvp once you use a weapon, which of course will also get you killed by CONCORD. This works in favor of the defender, since if somebody is trying to suicide gank you, you can freely open fire back at them if you have a weapon or drones to do so.

Another thing to consider is War Declarations. Player-made corporations and alliances can declare war on each other, which allows their members to shoot each other freely in low and high security space as if they were in null security space. Most NPC corporations (especially the ones the game puts newbies in) are immune to WarDecs, though there is a feature called Faction Warfare that puts you in NPC corps that are in war when you choose to enlist. Just like with player wars, FW means players from the opposing sides can shoot you freely and vice versa, but you also cannot enter the other side's space without the NPCs trying to kill you as well. Fortunately, CONCORD won't be one of those kill-you NPCs (unless you hit an innocent third party during a fight), but those ships that often float around the star gates will.

Don't be afraid to lose your ship; everyone who's been in the game at least a month will have lost at least one ship, especially those who do the Advanced Military career tutorial; it gives you a free ship and tells you to go lose it, because CCP wants all players to know they WILL go boom at some time. While you can use a variety of in-game tools and techniques to minimize loss, you can never truely avoid it. You may find your killers quite willing to help you learn from the deaths if you approach them in convo asking where you went wrong or how they did X thing you haven't seen before. Use the deaths as learning experiences, especially early on while your clones are dirt cheap, and you'll be a better player at the game.

As long as you are careful and alert, you can fairly survive in any space, even the potentially scary -1.0 of deep null and J-######## space. I'll give a few pointers that I learned within my first month:

1. Do not completely afk if you are mining in space less than 0.9. Not only are there players who will target miners, including a coalition in high sec called the New Order who especially hate afk miners (and anyone who doesn't pay them 10mil), but NPC pirates will spawn in mining areas of 0.8 and lower security. The lower the system security, the stronger the rats. While CONCORD will intervene if a player attacks you in high, they do nothing about the NPC pirates. High sec rats are fairly weak, but if you're totally afk, they will be able to destroy your ship, leaving your pod just sitting there. Feel free to have the in-game browser, or an out-of-game one, up so you can read about the different aspects of the game (or something else) while waiting for your mining lasers to do their thing, but make sure you can still at least hear what's going on so you can get your ship to safety or defend yourself. I lost a Venture once to a rat. Even if you aren't mining, you should avoid afking in space unless you want to (not) see when the ship goes boom, as some players and the NPCs will not care what you fly; it's a target.

2. Never use the auto pilot in low security space. That thing loves to drop you out of warp like 15km from where you're trying to go, so you have to fly to it with your regular rockets; this is called slowboating. The longer your ship is out there, the more chance for someone to come along and shoot you. If you really don't want to get shot, do not autopilot in lowsec; my first death resulted in that lesson.

3. Learn how to use the Directional Scanner - dscan for short - and use it often. This thing can tell you if there are any ships or structures in a particular direction up to a range of 14.5 AU, well beyond the limited range of your Overview list. More advanced usage of it can also get you the general range of distance that the ship in question is at, making dscan a very useful tool. This is especially necessary when in J-######## space, where you have no local channel list to tell you who is in the system with you. Dscan can help you find out if there are hostiles at an exit, or if there's already a base at some moon, or if there's a ship sitting in the middle of nowhere in a system, and in the case of J-space it can tell you if someone entered. It does have a weakness, however: it cannot detect ships that have an active cloaking device. Most of my deaths have been related to me not knowing some aspect of this tool or how to utilize it. Practice early and often.

4. Learn the offensive and defensive modules and abilities for a variety of ships, and how to fit your vessel. For example, the Venture mining frigate has +2 to warp core strength, equal to two free Warp Core Stabilizer modules, which will render it immune to a single Warp Scrambler or a pair of Warp Disruptor modules. However, it does not protect you from the interdictors' Warp Disruption Field Generator. Another example: Weapon damage types(determined by ammo) and armor/shield resistances. Fit the correct resistance modules to make the best use of your ship hull's preferred protection, and you'll be much harder to kill. Likewise, arm yourself to exploit holes in the targets' defences, and they'll go down very quickly.

So I joined EVE 2 days ago now and just now upgraded to a full account, Awesome experience but the only thing that really annoyes me is getting shot at by other players, I know its part of the experience but which sector do I stay out of to avoid this, Low or high sec ?

Any info is appreciated :)

There are a few, though I cant recommend them as that may damage my alts ability to... carebear innocently. Yeah, that'll do.



Why is that important tho?

mostly because i don't play a lot and when I do i dont want to hear you guys ruin it by speaking to me

PS: send me a mail? im genuinely looking for one - done the whole comms stuff but not enjoying it, looking for some relaxed mature and who dont give a **** about what you do or dont require you to be on comms when you are online or for ops yet still do things together? seems impossible

So I joined EVE 2 days ago now and just now upgraded to a full account, Awesome experience but the only thing that really annoyes me is getting shot at by other players, I know its part of the experience but which sector do I stay out of to avoid this, Low or high sec ?

Any info is appreciated :)

So a huge misconception is that there is profit to be made in low sec & null sec. Sure there is huge isk to be made there, but also comes huge expense, and massive time sinks waiting for space to clear waiting to get something done. Been there, tried it. Made a huge amount of ISK, whilst at the same time losing it as well.

I made more, and lost less on average in high sec systems 0.5+

Only IF you get in with the right crowd, will you end up getting somewhere in 0.4 or lower, otherwise you blink and some decloaked pilgrim or whatnot has you locked down, drained of cap and blown out the water. It's not a pleasant place to be if you're trying to make isk. Ignore all the "hey it's sooo much sweeter out here" coaxing.. it's what the fly thought as the day turns to darkness as the venus fly trap closes around it.

High sec + steady stream of isk wins out over huge peaks and heavy losses in NULL / Low, I for one feel horrible when I lose everything I have due to blinking in teh darkest places of the EVE universe. It's certainly not for everyone out there, I'm having a ball in high sec, and playing EVE my way, not the way bittervets want you to play.

One day I will venture into low sec space again but it will be when I have more skills and frankly far more experience than I currently posses and I will be doing it in frigs that cost next to nothing so I can die a lot while learning the ropes again.

I like this newbie, he's cute.

Time to introduce him to the best part of EVE!

Locators running.

Never realised EVE players were so bitter and nasty, Explains some of the people I know outside of the Game then ^_^

In high sec, (1.0-0.5 systems) if another player shoots you, the NPC entity CONCORD will fly in and instantly kill them. However some people will still attack if their target is worth more than the ship they know they are going to lose, this is called "suicide ganking"

If you want to lead a dull, boring internet space life that never involves the possibility of being shot at, you'll have to stay docked.

Under the right circumstances, people will shoot you, even in high sec.

You'll be better off if you HTFU and don't cordon yourself off from the most important part of the game, though.

Allow me to break it down for you.

You are always flagged for pvp, however:
In high sec, (1.0-0.5 systems) if another player shoots you, the NPC entity CONCORD will fly in and instantly kill them. However some people will still attack if their target is worth more than the ship they know they are going to lose, this is called "suicide ganking"

In low sec (0.4-0.1 systems) if another player shoots you, they mearly lose security standing, if security standing drops too low they can no longer enter high sec. Additionally if you are at a gate and are attacked, the gate guns will attack the offender, they will not destroy them instantly like CONCORD though.

In null sec (0.1> systems) anything goes, there is no penalty for attacking another player.

So while your safest in high sec, you are never truly immune from pvp.

Never realised EVE players were so bitter and nasty, Explains some of the people I know outside of the Game then ^_^

Bounty ?
From: Dyzshaow Hunter
Sent: 2013.06.25 19:37
To: Vincent R'lyeh,

Why have you put a bounty on me I dont even know you ?
Is it because you are sick in the head and a piece of **** ?

Low sec, High sec, New to EVE and not wanting to die ^_^